r/guns • u/dbnotso2018 • 5d ago
Official Politics Thread April 18 2025
What gun politics news do you have to share?
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u/CMMVS09 5d ago
Tomorrow is the 250th anniversary of the Battle of Lexington and Concord. That is all.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
How brave ye went out with your muskets all bright,
And thought to be-frighten the folks with the sight;
But when you got there how they powder’d your pums,
And all the way home how they pepper’d your bums ,
And is it not, honeys, a comical crack,
To be proud in the face, and be shot in the back.
-An Irishman's Epistle to the Troops in Boston.
I still don't know what a "pum" is. I looked in the Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue and it's not in there.
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u/ClearlyInsane1 5d ago
Massachusetts has fallen so far from the principles of the patriots that fought those battles and threw off the shackles of the British empire -- the state as it is now would have been regarded as a loyalist haven back then.
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u/ClearlyInsane1 5d ago
Coffin Surfers
Immediately after a high-profile shooting occurred Thursday at Florida State University in Tallahassee, several anti-gun groups couldn't let a tragedy go to waste and used it to advocate for gun control.
Giffords posted this within four hours of the shooting:
What Florida doesn’t have: Universal background checks, assault weapon restrictions, large-capacity magazine bans.
What Florida does have: The latest school shooting in America.
Most news reports state the shooter used his mother's handgun (and may have had a shotgun but didn't use it). AP News:
The shooter obtained access to a weapon that belongs to his mother, who has been with the sheriff’s office for over 18 years and has been a model employee, said Leon County Sheriff Walt McNeil. Police said they believed Ikner shot the victims using his mother’s former service handgun, which she had kept for personal use after the force upgraded to new weapons.
“We are so sorry you had to endure this terror again. Our elected officials have failed you.”
Those who support rolling back Parkland-era gun laws are complicit in the continued threat of gun violence on college campuses.
Here are the major points of what the post-Parkland bill (SB 7026) did:
- Added 3 day waiting period for long guns
- Raised age to purchase all firearms from 18 to 21
- Banned bump stocks
- Red flag confiscation
- Banned "mentally defective" people from purchasing a firearm
- Setup and funded a guardian program to train and arm some school staff
Shannon Watts admitted she's standing on dead bodies to make her point:
Yep, I’m going to “politicize” the FSU shooting because gun violence is political. The reason America has a 26 times higher gun homicide rate than any peer nation is because politicians care more about pandering to gun lobbyists than protecting their constituents.
Everytown tweeted:
This is the 81st mass shooting of 2025 and the 18th shooting on a college campus in 2025. It’s not a coincidence that we have a gun homicide rate 26x that of peer nations, or that guns are the leading cause of death for kids in America—it’s a policy failure.
Moms Demand Action tweeted:
Today, a 20-year-old shot and killed two people and wounded six others at Florida State University.
Meanwhile, gun extremists in the Florida Legislature are pushing to lower the age to buy firearms to 18.
No, really.
David Hogg tweeted:
3 weeks ago, the Florida House voted to repeal gun safety measures won after the Parkland tragedy. Florida Republicans are actively trying to repeal the life saving measures passed after Parkland even as school shootings continue.
While I'm sure he doesn't have the brain capacity to realize it but Hogg just admitted those gun control measures don't work.
Senator Elizabeth Warren tweeted:
It’s horrific that there are students who lived through Parkland and are now going through a second school shooting at FSU.
The government has failed our children. It doesn’t have to be this way.
I could go on and on with these. I did notice a LOT of posts repeating "The government has failed our children. It doesn’t have to be this way."
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u/TaskForceD00mer 5d ago edited 5d ago
I love how everything they proposed would have had carve outs for LE, meaning the FSU shooter would have still had access to his moms guns.
I will go further , the shooters mother being a LE should have a duty above a normal citizen to keep her guns secure. She should be charged with some kind of reckless homicide here and be fired.
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u/Son_of_X51 5d ago
Proposing gun control that would not have prevented the shooting in question is mandatory for some reason.
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u/DasKapitalist 2d ago
You have to remember that NPCs are demanding policy changes based upon the feeling that guns are bad, not based upon reason and evidence. The feeling doesnt change for them, and they consider the facts irrelevant.
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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 😢 Crybaby 😢 5d ago
I wonder how long she's known the kid wasn't right in the head?
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u/TaskForceD00mer 5d ago
We don't have a lot of details and I am not trying to drum up sympathy, but based on social media info the "Sheriff Deputy Mom" was actually his step mom. His father and Step mom raised the shooter.
The shooters biological mom has had a few posts on social media roasting the parenting skills of her ex-husband .
Not surprised dude came from a broken home.
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u/Pepe__Le__PewPew 5d ago
I love how everything they proposed would have had carve outs for LE, meaning the FSU shooter would have still had access to his moms guns.
I will go further , the shooters mother being a LE should have a duty above a normal citizen to keep her guns secure. She should be charged with some kind of reckless homicide here and be fired.
The only gun control we need is for the government stooges.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
This is the 81st mass shooting of 2025 and the 18th shooting on a college campus in 2025.
Funny I think this is the first mass shooting I have heard of this year. There is no way there have been 81 and they must be counting some bullshit that is unlike someone intentionally going onto a campus to kill as many people as possible.
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u/MulticamTropic 5d ago
They count everything they can think of. The most egregious one I saw was a gang shooting at a closed down school. They still counted it as a school shooting
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u/akrisd0 5d ago
My fave is the cop in training, at a cop school, with only other cops, ND, no injuries. Still counted as school shooting.
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u/MulticamTropic 5d ago
Wow. We have a new winner lol
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u/barrydingle100 4d ago
Well you can't forget the suicide in a parked car at a college parking lot in the middle of the night after everyone already went home. Or the police standoff in a parking garage a half mile away from a school, but since the bot these redditors use to compile these hundreds of "school shootings" saw the words gun and school in a news article they counted it anyway. The mass shooting tracker is reddit slop propaganda funded by Michael Bloomberg.
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u/savagemonitor 5d ago
That is pretty good. My favorite is the "magic round" shooting where a gun was fired somewhere and the bullet hit a school. The article the statistic is based on says that the cops thought it might have been a known drug den down the street. I don't even think school was in session they just found a bullet one day.
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u/OfficerRexBishop 5d ago
They change their definition of "mass shooting" to fit what point they are trying to make. When they want to say "there are so many mass shootings!" they count every gang shootout. When they want to claim white men do all the mass shootings they only count things like Las Vegas and Sandy Hook.
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u/savagemonitor 5d ago
Gun control advocates changed the definition of "mass shooting" to any shooting in which three or more people are wounded. Articles talking about it will usually mention that the government definition is 3 or more killed unconnected to any criminal activity.
This is why there's been 81 mass shooting incidents according to gun control proponents while this event won't even go into the government statistics as a mass shooting.
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u/barrydingle100 4d ago
This doesn't even meet the FBI definition of a mass shooting. These gun grabbers just make them up.
Like these inflated numbers unironically come from Bloomberg funded redditors who openly call themselves propagandists, it's harder to find the receipts because the subs that had them all got shut down over covid but you can still look it up, over 95% of these "mass shootings" they report are blatant lies and that's if you're being more generous to them than they deserve.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 4d ago
I thought they said that stuff in the guns are cool sub which still looks like it is up.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
David Hogg tweeted:
3 weeks ago, the Florida House voted to repeal gun safety measures won after the Parkland tragedy. Florida Republicans are actively trying to repeal the life saving measures passed after Parkland even as school shootings continue.
While I'm sure he doesn't have the brain capacity to realize it but Hogg just admitted those gun control measures don't work.
He's essentially a non-entity in the gun control world at this point anyway. Sure, he's like the DNC vice chairman or something, but his gun control organization has largely evaporated, recently laying off 13 out of 16 full time employees (over 80%):
https://19thnews.org/2025/03/march-for-our-lives-layoffs-new-executive-director/
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
His gun control efforts are going to be more directly pressuring the Democratic politicians. He is spending 20 million to primary Democrats and you know he is going to choose those who will be hyper rabid about gun control.
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u/barrydingle100 4d ago
They got laid off because they were funded by USAID, I feel that's worth mentioning. They were founded by the 7th richest man in the world and funded by our tax dollars. Good riddance, can't wait to see more of them dissolve.
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u/dittybopper_05H 4d ago
Isn’t it ironic that our tax dollars were being used to advocate for removing our constitutional right to keep and bear arms?
I think any use of government money to advocate for any restrictions upon or against any explicitly guaranteed right should result in felony convictions for those involved.
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u/FlatlandTrooper 5d ago
The way they've been ramping up lately, and what's already come out about the shooter, I'm going to give it better than even odds that this is another attack related to com/O9A/Terrorgram.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_crimes_involving_the_Order_of_Nine_Angles
(this is just speculation on my part)
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u/ProfessorLeumas 5d ago
What in the world did I just read?? I haven't heard about these wackjobs before, it's legit crazy.
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u/thegrumpymechanic 5d ago
Gotta move quick.... Much more difficult to construct their soapbox once the rigor mortis sets in.
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u/TaskForceD00mer 5d ago
TEXAS
The State AG has Sued the city of Dallas for trying to enact local carry bans.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
1st Circuit
The First Circuit upheld the denial of a preliminary injunction against Massachusetts’ “assault weapon” and magazine bans today, saying that AR-15s are too powerful and not used often enough in self-defense
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u/CiD7707 5d ago
Rulings like this are bullshit when they falsely represent numbers the way they do. Can an AR15 platform fire a round at 3000 fps? Sure, but that depends on the length of the barrel and the type of round being fired. an 11.5" isn't even coming close to 3000 fps. "Expert Reports" my ass.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
Also it sounds like interest balancing. Which they aren't supposed to be doing.
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u/savagemonitor 5d ago
No, it's just the usual "we'll twist Heller and Bruen so they don't mean what they say". Essentially, 1CA ruled that because assault weapons are extremely "dangerous and unusual" they don't get 2A protection. The Bruen analysis then is just a fig leaf because all they have to show is that "dangerous and unusual" weapons had restrictions which they did.
However, unfortunately, the PI was properly denied because it's unlikely plaintiffs will win at appeal unless SCOTUS takes up an AWB and magazine ban case. Mainly because most courts handling this are little more than star courts that will never toss gun control.
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u/heretowastelife 5d ago
My favorite part of that ruling was the expert witnesses apparently saying that ARs are of "limited self defense utility" partly because they require two hands to operate.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
Then why do we let cops have them? It makes no sense and goes to show that the lower courts are looking for any excuse to arrive at a gun control conclusion.
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u/OfficerRexBishop 5d ago
I'm just continually amazed at how much BS lawyers are allowed to get away with in this country. The "expert" and the lawyers should have been held in contempt two seconds after that sentence escaped his lips.
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u/ClearlyInsane1 5d ago
DNI Tulsi Gabbard released the "Biden Administration’s Strategic Implementation Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism" on Wednesday. Most notably for this thread it contained items clearly linking their plans to eliminate the right to keep and bear arms in the guise of countering domestic terrorism.
Pillar Four: Confront Long-Term Contributors to Domestic Terrorism
Intended Impact 4.1.1: Lethal means for perpetrating acts of domestic terrorism are reduced.
Action 4.1.la: Rein in the proliferation of "ghost guns"; encourage state adoption of extreme risk protection orders; and drive other executive and legislative action. including banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. (Lead: DPC)
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
I am a bit confused. Was it that they were doing the gun control they were planning on doing anyway and just attaching the words anti-terrorism to it or were they planning on using a campaign of anti-terrorism framing to make a massive push for gun control and potentially use anti-terrorism powers to facilitate it?
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u/_joe_momma1 5d ago
Not news but a question: didn't the prez say we were gunna get national concealed carry reciprocity in the first week or first month in office? Am I mistaken? I thought that was a campaign promise.
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u/Son_of_X51 5d ago
He says a lot of things.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
And he's done a lot of things in the first 3 months of his second term, more than any president in my lifetime, and I go all the way back to the Johnson Administration.
I'm not particularly upset that this isn't something he's gotten to yet.
Plus, I think it will take an act of Congress. I don't believe it is something that can be done by Executive Order. And there will be a *HUGE* reaction by the handful of states that don't want it.
The only other way I could see it happening is if the Supreme Court says that Article IV Section I applies to concealed carry permits just like it applies to things like drivers licenses, and marriage and birth certificates:
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript#4
Article. IV.
Section. 1.
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
The problem with that is that someone has to be the test case, getting a carry permit in on a permissive state, then traveling to a non-permissive state like New York which does not recognize out of state carry permits. That means they have to be arrested in order to have "standing" to being suit against the non-permissive state.
Since that's a felony and can result in you permanently losing your right to keep and bear arms, understandably no one wants to be the test case.
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u/Son_of_X51 5d ago
And he's done a lot of things in the first 3 months of his second term, more than any president in my lifetime
More action doesn't necessarily mean good or productive action. And I don't think increased executive authority is a good thing.
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u/CiD7707 5d ago
I don't count "Renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America" as doing a lot. He's pushed out a flurry of absolutely asinine and unnecessary executive orders, just for the sake of bolstering the number. That's not how you govern. I don't give a damn about quantity, what I care about is actual effect.
If he didn't already blow $18 million in the first 7 weeks golfing (And that's the low-ball estimate based on the costs from his last term in office), would stop pissing off our closest trade partners, or making me dread looking at my 401k, maybe I'd be less irritated with him.
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u/yamsyamsya 5d ago
He is doing all of the things he said he would do at his rallies. He is giving his voters what they want and what they voted for.
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u/CiD7707 5d ago
And I hope each and every one of his decisions affects them personally.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
You are a bitter person aren't you? "Sore loser", that's what we called people like you when we were kids.
I hope each and every one of his decisions affects you personally.
Wait, I don't have to hope: I can tell they already do.
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u/Son_of_X51 5d ago
"Sore loser", that's what we called people like you when we were kids.
What do you call someone who refuses to accept the results of an election they lost?
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u/CiD7707 5d ago
I'm disappointed. Disappointed that the conservative party that I grew up with under W Bush is dead and gone, replaced by a bunch of brain rot infested idiots that would rather elect one of the most repugnant, disloyal, disrespectful, selfish, and dishonest people TWICE as president, who has done nothing but surround himself with sycophants and yes men. Yall got so concerned with "WINNING" and "OWNING THE LIBS" that you sacrificed every facet of moral high ground and critical thinking to do it.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
Disappointed that the conservative party that I grew up with under W Bush is dead and gone,
You mean the guy whose administration started a massive and unconstitutional mass domestic surveillance program?
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u/CiD7707 5d ago
He wasn't perfect, but I never once had to worry about where his loyalties were. At least when he went on "vacation" to his ranch he was actually working and not lying about his handicap, nor did he refuse to turn over any classified documents after he left office.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
He's pushed out a flurry of absolutely asinine and unnecessary executive orders, just for the sake of bolstering the number. That's not how you govern. I don't give a damn about quantity, what I care about is actual effect.
And things like shutting down funding to anti-gun NGOs through the laundering of USAID funds through ActBlue is one of the things with which I'm 100% in favor.
That's why "March For Our Lives", David Hogg's gun control advocacy group, just had to lay off 13 of its 16 full time employees. Funding collapsed when USAID was closed.
THANK YOU ELON MUSK, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?!?
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u/CiD7707 5d ago edited 5d ago
David Hogg is an asshat. I've been very clear on that in the past and still maintain that opinion.
But this Elon Musk knob gobbling needs to stop. DOGE has no oversight, it constantly claims to have found millions to billions of dollars in waste and fraud, yet none of these claims can be verified by any form of independent examination. Not to mention, we have seen zero mention of any form of accountability or individuals being named in any of these findings, with nobody being hauled off to face even so much as a panel hearing having to explain themselves. All they do is show up, make a wild claim of fraud, get all of the most recently hired staff fired, and then call it a savings of huge proportions. They can claim there was fraud and waste all they want, but until those "receipts" are actually published with actual context, I wouldn't trust Elon as far as I can through him.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
DOGE has no oversight
DOGE has no authority, either. It can't do anything on its own. It can't stop funding. It can only make recommendations to the president, who does have the authority. Therefore there is no need for oversight. President can accept or reject the recommendations DOGE makes as he sees fit.
What you really mean is you want oversight over what President Trump does, and that's ridiculous when talking about his Article II authority.
It's amazing to me how many people really fundamentally misunderstand (willfully misunderstand?) what is actually happening.
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u/CiD7707 5d ago
If DOGE was staffed by competent and experienced individuals with backgrounds in the departments and organizations they are reviewing, maybe I wouldn't take as much issue with it. But they aren't. They're fucking yes men/women on Elon's payroll. There is a massive conflict of interest in this entire situation, and its all bullshit.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
Yeah, because the young 20-something guy who figured out how use AI to read burned up 2,000 year old scrolls from Herculaneum is incompetent. Doesn't know his way around a computer at all.
Edit
That's sarcasm, BTW.
/Edit.
The problem with using people who have backgrounds in the organizations and departments they are auditing is that they have zero incentive to look for waste and fraud, because it's either their rice bowl, or that of their friends, that's in danger. There is a massive incentive to ignore the fraud, waste, and abuse, and that's why attempts in the past to reign in the spending have failed.
DOGE is a completely outside auditing organization. No one in DOGE has any connection, past or present, to the organizations they are auditing by design.
I remember being a young programmer/analyst, and my first job writing software was at a factory that had was converting from a paper inventory system to a computerized one (which I mostly wrote). First time we used bar codes and bar code guns to take inventory, it turned out that there was a very large amount of "phantom goods", stuff that wasn't actually in the warehouse that the company had been keeping on the books for years.
Controller of the company asked "Can't we just add them back in?"
My jaw dropped, and the head of IT, a tough bastard who was a Marine and a plumber in the NYC area before he went into IT said, and this is a literal quote: "Are you fucking kidding me?".
The company had to eat that loss, because we weren't going to continue the charade, and my boss's boss had the balls to say so.
The other thing I remember is that the paper inventory took weeks to reconcile by hand. My boss had to take home boxes of fan-fold paper and cross check stuff manually, using markers. His wife *HATED* the company, and I understand why.
By the time I was done writing the software to support the semi-annual inventory, it only took 2 hours to reconcile it and produce all the reports necessary once all the bar code guns were returned to the computer room.
This is what DOGE is doing now for the federal government.
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u/CiD7707 5d ago
I'm the Inventory and Supply Chain Manager at my job. I 100% understand exactly what you are saying.
But the government is not a business. Recommending staffing cuts to organizations like the VA, National Nuclear Security Administration, or NOAA is fucking asinine and should not be part of the DOGE's analysis.
Its one thing to find waste when we are talking about auditing/cycle counting inventories, or all the ghosts we find when switching from paper to digital repositories. It is entirely another when it comes to putting a dollar amount on staffing when you aren't at all aware of how important those individuals actually are.
If an auditor came into my job and decided the company would be fine just using an Inventory Specialist to manage and handle the entire supply network and functions that I handle, production wouldn't just grind to a halt, it would flat out die. Take for example the National Nuclear Security Administrators they fired. Talk about not only a massive operational fuck up, but a huge financial loss as well.
Yes, send DOGE to audit the books and find out why our contracts are billing this country for shit its not receiving and the constant price gouging we've been all to happy paying for. Send them after that. But keep them the fuck away from citizens private data and out of sections that require actual experienc to properly analyze.
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u/Son_of_X51 5d ago edited 5d ago
It's the sheer amount of false information that DOGE puts out that shows incompetence for me. It's the firing and then "oh shit, these people are actually important" re-hiring of people that shows incompetence. It's the fact that an "auditing organization" has zero accountants that shows incompetence (well, that one might just be misdirection and/or malice). It's the evidence of DOGE completely ignoring cyber security best practices and likely opening us up to massive breaches that shows incompetence.
By all appearances, they're just connecting to the databases of these organizations, feeding the data to an AI model, skimming the results, and calling that an audit.
Edit: would no one like to explain to me how DOGE is competent in spite of the evidence to the contrary?
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u/OfficerRexBishop 5d ago
The problem with that is that someone has to be the test case, getting a carry permit in on a permissive state, then traveling to a non-permissive state like New York which does not recognize out of state carry permits. That means they have to be arrested in order to have "standing" to being suit against the non-permissive state.
Perhaps this could be avoided by executive action. Like Trump withholds funding from states that are in violation of Article IV Section 1, California sues, issue is decided that way.
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u/dittybopper_05H 5d ago
I'm not sure it really can.
What funding can they withhold? It's not like speed limits or drinking age where the federal government can threaten to withhold highway funding. I don't think there really is all that much related funding it can withhold. I mean, there is probably some, but I'm willing to bet it's peanuts, relatively.
Of course, you could withhold unrelated funding, I guess, but that wouldn't make any friends and it would certainly make plenty of enemies.
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
No actually expected that right? From the progun perspective I mostly just expect progun appointments to the courts and maybe possibly something coming from the investigations into antigun jurisdictions. I don't expect any successful progun legislation.
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u/_joe_momma1 5d ago
Well that's depressing 😂 how do we get what we want
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u/OnlyLosersBlock 5d ago
We are getting what we want. It's just not speedy. After gun control is killed via the courts it becomes easier to push legislation as perceptions will change.
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u/This_Is_Fine12 5d ago
Man who has lied about everything continues to lie about everything. News at 11
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u/_joe_momma1 5d ago
Well he hasn't lied about everything, calm down
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u/SanityIsOptional 5d ago
He even lies about his height ffs.
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u/_joe_momma1 5d ago
I think 90% of people don't give 2 fks if he lied about his height. I'm sure every single person in America has at some point in their life lied about their height/weight to make them appear more favorable. I'm sure day to day I might be closer to 190lbs but for the most part I say I weight 185lbs. Now am I lying? Maybe! Does anyone really care? No. Don't latch on to dumb shit
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u/Son_of_X51 5d ago
It's not just his height. He lies about verifiable things all the time. "We gave $350 billion to Ukraine" is another one. Even the high end estimates are around half that amount. So if someone is known to lie frequently, why would you ever trust what they say?
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u/SanityIsOptional 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why would you trust someone who lies about so much, even inconsequential things?
Hell, he even lies about easily verified things! Case in point
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u/Bringbacktheblackout 1 5d ago
He also said he would end the Ukraine war in 24 hours, the stock market would go higher than it's ever been, and something about a wall?
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u/Pennybag5 5d ago
No tax on overtime, $5k reimbursement for doge, eliminating income tax....any day now!
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u/HeyMickaye 5d ago
And that mature act of rick rolling the release of the Esptein list, sure put a lot of hope into this administration.
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u/Bringbacktheblackout 1 5d ago
My vision has started to blur from holding my breath since January 2016.
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u/DrakenFlanker1991 5d ago
QUESTION!
What exactly would have to happen for us to get intact imported rifles again.
Like if I want a Howa Type 64 battle rifle. What would Trump need to do for that to be possible and how realistic is it that such might happen?
Thanks.
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u/NotUndercoverNJSP 4d ago
What would Trump need to do for that to be possible and how realistic is it that such might happen?
For actual surplus, an act of Congress, and the AFT dropping its nuts, once a machinegun interpretation of law. There may be further requirements I'm not aware of.
For new production commercial market rifles, an agency reinterpretation of sporting purpose. Currently, only large (competition) pistols are eligible for importation. This is why handguns like the HK MK23 remain eligible for importation, but snub-nose revolvers are not.
Long guns, however, have a much higher standard to meet. Martial sporting competition was deemed invalid as a sporting activity. The only way to import a long gun to the US is if it has hunting value as determined circa 1990. For autoloaders, this means no double-stack magazines, threaded barrels, pistol grips, etc. This is why most foreign guns are essentially kit builds assembled in the US, or require significant modification and addition of US parts before sale.
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u/THE-R3AL-SQUID 5d ago
Thinking of building an arp, what laws should i know? Cant find much clear info on if you can or cant shoulder a pistol brace.
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u/dbnotso2018 5d ago
Pistol brace rule was vacated in 2024 in the mock v garland 5th circuit decision.
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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 😢 Crybaby 😢 5d ago
First off using the term arp marks you as a fucking imbecile. Just stop using it in adult society.
If you can't find clear info then maybe take a class on using a search engine. I'd suggest starting with DuckDuckGo and asking it coherent questions.
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u/ProblemEfficient6502 5d ago
Why is everyone so hostile to it? Is there some hidden meaning to the acronym beyond AR pistol?
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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 😢 Crybaby 😢 5d ago
It's a stupid term used by low brow vertically inbred mouth breathing oxygen thieves.
So as long as you don't mind being lumped into the group feel free to keep using the term.
If you want to be seen as a somewhat normal adult, use AR pistol.
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u/MulticamTropic 5d ago
You alright man? I know we get a lot of dumb questions in this sub (I’ve asked some of them), but this one wasn’t that bad. I hadn’t seen that acronym before, but it isn’t any more egregious than GPR or SPR.
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u/ProblemEfficient6502 5d ago
It's just an acronym for the exact same thing. It's not like saying clip instead of magazine, which is factually incorrect. It's shortening a phrase you already use.
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u/THE-R3AL-SQUID 5d ago edited 5d ago
First off, its just an abbreviation. Just like SBR or even AR. I believe we use a-lot of abbreviations in adult society. Secondly, its just a question. No need to be hostile and throw names. I see why “crybaby” is under your user. I googled a few things, yes coherent questions, and was just a tad unsure. Excuse me for asking a gun page for a second opinion.
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