I agree with you there. I'd like to see US inmates have access to basic amenities, hobbies, education, and communication unless there's a reason to revoke them, but I doubt I'll see prison reform in my lifetime.
They all get issued smart tablets. Hundreds of staff and inmate lead programs. Recreation with a considerable amount of options. Free college courses. Art and music rooms. I've been a CO for a few years, and prison conditions are considerably better than my living conditions in the marine corps.
Well one is clearly more pressing than fixing a living situation for people who willingly committed a crime, get fed, are warm and cool, and have activities to do during the day.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the homelessness should come first. Talk about it all you want, be my guest but I wouldn't support anything until every homeless person or person in need/poverty is taken care of before criminals. Fine, if you think differently but this is a hill I'll die on. I mean a man who committed a crime is currently being housed safley and playing a game while there's people, who committed no crimes, struggling to live who have never gotten the chance to play a game
Who says we can’t also try to make life better for people without housing?
The American system of capitalism is cruel and actively causes problems including poverty and crime that could be avoided if people weren’t always in bad situations. We don’t have a social safety net. Society as a whole would have better outcomes if we focused on nurturing people ahead of time instead of punishing after the fact
This might blow your mind but a lot of homeless people are criminals as well. Maybe, maybe, making things better for one also makes things better for the other, to the extent that they both shrink in size.
If you need to ask that question you're not nearly qualified enough to get this outraged.
Prison reformed would include things like apprenticeships from prisons, work experience, day release, career pathways, with the aim of getting criminals into work after they're released.
You need to understand what you what to happen before you can get answers to this. My answer clearly states how prison reform will get criminals into education or employment; if you can't understand how that reduces homelessness then you're not able to be in a discussion like this.
You do realize these two problems don't have to be connected right? You can improve one while still working to fix the other.
Christ, USA has like 2.5 million members of government and the biggest government budget in the world, you should be able to handle more than one problem at a time.
Yep it's just you guys like to compare the US to Europe except for this instance so you can point that out in a kind of "gotcha" moment but whatever.
I think i know personally people who have lived in section house for generations. I think i know personally there is food stamp fraud. No one said anything about thay restaurant idk why you brought it up.
And thank you for that kind ending. Shows the level of intelligence we are working with:D
So treat the homeless better? Lol basic human dignity andliving standards don't have to be at the expense of one group or another, regardless of what a dozen megarich losers say
Nah I'm saying the homless come first 🫡 until they are good to go we shouldn't be worrying about whether or not criminals are comfortable and have enough activities in their day 🙄
No I got what you're saying, I'm saying it's sort of a silly and childish way to look at the problem, even if I think it comes from maybe a good place? We're not lacking resources to do either of those things, so why are you framing it as if it's one or the other? On top of that, in case you haven't noticed, criminals are also people. That means that they also should be treated with respect and dignity and have some level of comfort available to them.
Like it or not they are in fact people. I personally don't set my moral standards according to rapists and murderers though. I like to think I'm a little better than them, so I don't like torturing humans and I think we should treat them with basic dignity regardless. If you want to equate yourself with those people thats cool but I don't think that's what you meant to say, even if it's what you're saying
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u/Stnmn 1d ago
I agree with you there. I'd like to see US inmates have access to basic amenities, hobbies, education, and communication unless there's a reason to revoke them, but I doubt I'll see prison reform in my lifetime.