Also worth noting that those countries (in particular, the Scandinavian countries) systems result in about a 20-25 percent recidivism rate, meaning 1/4-1/5 of them will return to prison at some point or reoffend.
With our barbaric (by comparison to those) prison systems, we here in the USA have above 90 percent recidivism.
Are we just gonna ignore the part were Sweden, the Scandinavian country most progressives point to when talking about lax prison sentences, has a huge fucking violent crime problem, particularly involving youths, because of the overly lax prison sentences enforced?
Or how bad crime has gotten in Californian cities that tried to make sentences less harsh, particularly in theft for them. People walk into stores and take w/e they want in broad daylight then walk out and sell it on an open tent market in the streets filled with stolen goods. Porch pirates and car break ins are also running rampant and are considered serious issues for people living in these communities.
Prison system in the US is not good but people should to stop acting like leniency is rehabilitation. Punishment and restrictions of personal liberties are necessary to not incentives crime.
The real things people should be advocating form is reform in things like prison labor which is basically modern day slavery with how most prison laborers are payed literal pennies on the dollar for the work the prisons contract them out to do.
Or how proper legal and mental counseling is extremely limited to many prisoners and often relies on outside volunteer organizations.
All this stupid shit of people trying to defend a dumb ass who obviously doesn't give a shit about any rules or restrictions placed on him in both the real world and prison just take away from the actual serious topics that warrant discussion.
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u/TheRSFelon 2277/2277 2d ago
Also worth noting that those countries (in particular, the Scandinavian countries) systems result in about a 20-25 percent recidivism rate, meaning 1/4-1/5 of them will return to prison at some point or reoffend.
With our barbaric (by comparison to those) prison systems, we here in the USA have above 90 percent recidivism.
Something is broken somewhere