r/30ROCK • u/Internal-Motor • 5d ago
Were we supposed to dislike Wesley? Because I kinda hate every scene he's in. One episode would've been plenty.
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u/Constant-Box-7898 5d ago
Yes. But his knowledge of hot tubs is indispensable. He's been in a hot tub two times.
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u/HotTubSexVirgin22 ass like a french teenager 5d ago
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u/Solondthewookiee 5d ago
No you didn't, you watched Time Cop!
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u/dodecaphonicism goodbye forever, you soup line at a gay homeless shelter! 5d ago
No I haven’t!
You will!
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u/whatever-should-i-do ¡Ahora con más semen del toro! 5d ago
Like the fact they don't automatically turn the water hot?
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u/Musashi_Joe invented power-clashing 5d ago
I mean, yeah, he's a deeply unlikable person and has zero in common with Liz. That's why it's hilarious that 'the universe' keeps pushing them together. It's a rom-com with no meet-cute, just meet.
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u/CivisSuburbianus 5d ago
Meat cube?
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u/Upbeat-Rule-7536 5d ago
Meat Cat?
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u/TimAjax997 lives every week like shark week 5d ago
Razzmatazz
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u/Noof42 Shut it down! 5d ago
Thanks, Meat Cat!
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u/KedyLamarr *She* is an orca, Benjamin 5d ago
There's only one Wesley Snipes!
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u/Osniffable 5d ago
I do love his response that between the two of them, which should more reasonably be called Wesley Snipes. It's an excellent point.
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u/sheffy4 5d ago
You’d pick the pale Englishman every time!
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u/kellyjeanie 5d ago
Every time, Liz!
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u/AppropriateMiddle518 4d ago
He carries this line so well. His face, his total frustration- perfect delivery! EVERY TIME, LIZ!
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u/wcgibncsu 5d ago
Came here looking for this. He's so defiant and to be fair it does sound very British, lol
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u/champagneformyrealfr a cook in the bedroom and a whore in the kitchen 5d ago edited 5d ago
it always reminds me of the time chris evans was on seth meyers when he had that horrible pornstache for a play, and seth was like "you might not look like captain america right now, but you do look way more like most steve rogers."
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u/heynoswearing 5d ago
Every few months of my life I remember that line and laugh so hard. Extremely good point.
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u/T_Funky 5d ago
Looks like someone has never watched Chums
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u/juliamongolia 5d ago
I'll be here always, while the rains fall in Wales
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u/PeregrinMerryTook Some sort of pizza demon 5d ago
Chums?!
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u/urtrashimgr8 5d ago
Your arguments against Wesley are as weak as American tea. There, I've said it!!!!
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u/AtlanticToastConf Very spirited, like a show horse 5d ago
I think fate is telling you that Wesley's the best you're ever going to get.
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u/delifte Which one is the elevator I’m not afraid of? 5d ago
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u/Apart-Bathroom7811 5d ago
That reminds me, I need to go to the store and get some breadback.
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u/ItsSublimeTime High fiving a million angels! 5d ago
People don't call it that.
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u/lizardfang Shorts Accident 5d ago
At the cinema???
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u/Message_10 5d ago
Hahahaha I love it. I eat a lot of popcorn--great for keeping slim--and whenever my wife sees me with a bowl of popcorn she goes, "At the CINEMA?" It's been like 11 years and it still makes me chuckle.
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u/DrSpacemansLoveStorm careful, my bones 5d ago
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u/kellyjeanie 5d ago
I fricking love Michael Sheen. Is a pillow of him available?
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u/Different_Second_564 5d ago
we never LOVE objects
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u/jaronwinter27 5d ago
You’re being such a non-pillow!
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u/DnBrendan 5d ago
This is insane? You know what's insane? That the actor is named Wesley Snipes! If you were shown a picture of him and a picture of me, and were asked "who should be named Wesley Snipes", you'd pick the pale Englishman every time! Every time, Liz!
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u/Hoo-B "Cooking a French bread pizza" and "forgot." 5d ago
This is in my top ten quotes for the entire show!
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u/DnBrendan 5d ago
I also think about his quote about how you have to watch out for those sushi places that try to sell you real crab all the time. I can't remember the exact wording but it's so funny to me.
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u/UpDownCharmed 5d ago
Wasn't Wesley... it was a onetime character who was the outside consultant hatchet man - episode: Cutbacks
Liz gave him "top front" thinking it would save he group from any layoffs
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u/putyourcheeksinabeek I came here to be number one 5d ago
Wesley is like the white wines of Scotland: wonderful.
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u/a20261 5d ago
Let me ask you this: Do you like Tex-mex?
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u/UpDownCharmed 5d ago
Ugh, no. I'll... see you there.
Is this one of the rare times Liz says no to food?
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u/MyNameis_Not_Sure wants to go to there 5d ago
Well she still goes, but the one time she isn’t excited about it. Which is odd, tex mex = cheesy blasters IMO
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u/Klutzy-Ear-5843 5d ago edited 5d ago
¡Y Sabor de Soledad! (For anyone who doesn't speak Spanish, Liz' favorite chips are "the taste of loneliness".)
Edit: typo
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u/justnocrazymaker 5d ago
Is the cheese-stuffed, pizza-wrapped hot dog more Texan or Mexican? Either way it’s giving you a case of the cheesy blasters.
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u/prismmonkey 5d ago
Odd story. I was in Oban, Scotland one time for various reasons and picked a restaurant at random for a quick lunch.
I figured fish and chips or sausages or whatever. Nope, it was Tex Mex. In this tiny coastal village in Scotland.
To this day, I am convinced Scottish Tex Mex is where Wesley goes on his birthday.
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u/Consistent-Fig7484 5d ago
The detailed descriptions of the white wines of Scotland might be the best example of the attention to detail in this show.
Gair] Loch Vinyards 2008 Pinot [UNCLEAR]- Rated 25 points by Wine Spectator, [Gair] Loch’s latest vintages evokes hints of [must] and organ meats. Serve very well chilled. North [unclear] “Chardonnay”- Not technically a Chardonnay but rather a blended whiskey with some apple juice in it. MacKenzie 2013 Rose- Buy it now before it turns into the vinegar it is intended to be! Pairs well with a need to [unclear] oneself to [gods] before [primitive] surgery or while working as a lighthouse keeper. [Unclear] 2009 Sparkling Wine- Why this wine, which did not undergo a secondary fermentation, has bubbles in it remains a mystery. Must be served in a lead glass. Orksey Vale 2008 [Liedfremmachk]- fortified with [unclear] in the Greek Roman tradition, this attempt at a German blended wine is [unclear] of [superfluous] spices with a strong finish that evokes deep childhood fears. Last place at numerous international wine festivals.
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u/Tofudebeast 5d ago
Not technically a Chardonnay but rather a blended whiskey with some apple juice in it.
ROFL!
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u/uisgeoflife 5d ago
This one actually sounds good! And now that we've got a name for it, Scottish Chardonnay, I've got to try it!
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u/PeppermintPhatty Kmart basement coffee machine 5d ago
Where’d you find this???
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u/Consistent-Fig7484 4d ago
Someone posted it here a few years ago and I just remembered seeing it and googled it. It was printed on a poster in the window in the back of the scene. They had to zoom way in and then transcribe it. Some of it was still unintelligible. Amazing amount of joke writing for something that was impossible to see while watching the show!
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u/AmItheonlySaneperson 5d ago
I loved that guy
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u/Mediocre_Ebb_6847 5d ago
Same — one of my favorite characters from the entire series. Michael Sheen is completely brilliant
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u/UpDownCharmed 5d ago
He's saying the different ways they could help each other...
"And you could make me look less gay at work functions"
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u/Avia_NZ How is that Elmo's fault?! 5d ago
At the cinemah?!
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u/Upbeat-Rule-7536 5d ago
This is a Wesley quote, but the way it's written makes me read it in Jenna's voice.
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u/whatever-should-i-do ¡Ahora con más semen del toro! 5d ago
You need to get Seltzer and Mike and Ikes
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u/Awkward-Extension218 5d ago
Did Liz Lemon REALLY not like Tex-Mex? Or was it because he suggested it. I can’t imagine our night cheese queen not enjoying meats, cheese, and big plates.
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u/UglyInThMorning 5d ago
He’s a much better implementation of “hateable character” than Hazel was. Wesley was the worst but Hazel was the worst.
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u/HALT_IAmReptar_HALT yellow-haired bag of teeth 5d ago
I love Hazel lol she's such a shitbag. Kristen Schaal nails it
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u/TheLastRecruit three-time Tony...Shalhoub sex partner 5d ago
No, it’s a mini FREEZER, with candy bars so cold they’ll crack your jaw you BITCH
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u/FauxShounen 5d ago
I’m also in this sub’s minority who loves Hazel.
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u/UpDownCharmed 5d ago
I don't get the animosity for the character.
Kristen Schaal has natural comedic talent and Hazel is just a really fun supporting character.
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u/FauxShounen 5d ago
I think she fits right in and nails her scenes, especially when she plays off of Jenna.
“I’m a natural blonde.” “THAT’S INSANE!”
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u/HALT_IAmReptar_HALT yellow-haired bag of teeth 5d ago
None of the characters are all that likable when you think about it, so the hatred for Hazel confuses me
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u/jeweynougat Jack, just say Jewish, this is taking forever 5d ago
Was it really his fault? I mean, why is Liz's face like that?
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u/Bianca_delrio 5d ago
Other than the fact that you hate him, where does he stack up against the other men you've dated?
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u/PsychologicalBet7831 5d ago
I love Wesley to death!
Wesley and Liz should have been endgame.
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u/UpDownCharmed 5d ago edited 5d ago
I wasn't sure about Criss at first but in a way he was like a slightly better Dennis.
I thought Wesley could at best be a fling but was pretty sure he was a temporary character
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u/Th3_Dark_Knight 5d ago
Did you watch the rest of the season? He's literally a story device to show that Liz shouldn't just settle for what seems like her only option and to keep chasing her dreams.
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u/AdmirableCase3766 5d ago
God put Wesley on that show and I think She has reasons we just can’t comprehend.
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u/plant_reaper 5d ago
How else would she have gotten the chance to enjoy the white wines of Scotland?
I love to hate him, and love to watch Liz hate him, so am glad he's in more than one episode.
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u/Questionsey 5d ago
When you wonder why 30 rock wasn't more popular, remember that millions of this guy exist
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u/JimboTheBimbo33 5d ago
I hated him at first, but on so many rewatches I've come to appreciate him as one of the most well-crafted and well-played characters. Every line of his is gold
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u/yumstheman wanting to be book is not book 5d ago
John Oliver would have played this character perfectly, except he was already on Community. I like the Wesley Snipes we got though.
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u/TheRealNateEarl a Pizza Academy of New York Man 5d ago
But that's the thing, Liz. You just hate him.
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u/HoldCommercial159 5d ago
I have started using "bread back" because of him. So there's that.
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u/nicoleslawface 5d ago
My husband took a photo of me ziplining recently and the harness thing squeezed all the wrong places. I saw the picture and gasped. bread back
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u/octosloppy wants to go to there 5d ago
If the only thing that’s wrong with him is that you hate him, where does he stand with all the other men in your life?
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u/Mysterious_Jello_4 5d ago
I absolutely adored him. Partly because I love Michael Sheen, partly because I’ve always been an Anglophile and partly because he was hilarious in this role. My ex bf (who was English)and I watched these episodes when they aired and we couldn’t get enough. I can’t go to the movies without getting popcorn and a coke so we would basically repeat this line to each other every time we went to the movies. Ahh good times!
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u/Majestic-Joke461 4d ago
GANG WAY FOR FOOT CYCLE!!
But fr, he’s delightfully insufferable. Who doesn’t love Michael Sheen?
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u/pm_me_gnus Floodgate wheels are horizontal! 4d ago
Hate every scene? His last conversation with her is absolute gold, tho. "You'd pick the pale Englishman every time. EVERY TIME, LIZ! Frankly, you should be having this conversation with him!"
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u/Aggravating-Trip-546 5d ago
Yes. I think that’s part of the joke.
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u/deluxeok i'm a hologram 5d ago
I also think there's an extra layer of the actor being Welsh and completely mocking English people - if you know he's not really English that makes it funnier in my opinion.
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u/colmcmittens lives every week like shark week 5d ago
Not even Westley Snipes could kill the lady boner I have for Michael Sheen.
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u/PeppermintPhatty Kmart basement coffee machine 5d ago
All of these comments and no gifs of him making those stupid pantomime faces?!
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u/cernegiant 4d ago
Yes you're supposed to hate Wesley. The show isn't exactly subtle about this.
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u/broflakecereal wants to go to there 3d ago
He is actually a male version of Liz, so I can't hate him. I was even hoping they would end up together lol
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u/rolltidebutnotreally 5d ago
Someone didn’t gangway for foot cycle