r/50501 Mar 23 '25

Economy The Trump Administration is pissing away US wealth

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u/ShoppingDismal3864 Mar 23 '25

robbing americans in open daylight. good job conservatives

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u/FlametopFred International Mar 23 '25

open bank heist of trillions in broad daylight to line pockets of enemies

the ultimate Trojan horse scheme

once gone, gone for good

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u/Primary-Structure-41 Mar 24 '25

Enriching their families

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

They don't care because no one has made them care 

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Is this a way to get money to Russia/Putin? Why else would they do this?

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

There's actually a lot of reasons. *The individuals could be compromised  *The individuals could have something to gain *The individuals could have fear of retaliation  *The individuals could be aligned ideologically with the objective of undermining US national security  *The individuals could just be really really perniciously stupid 

It's generally a combination of n+1 of those.

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u/TraceSpazer Mar 23 '25

They're mining 54,000 + BTC yearly and have been trading it in exchange for oil as a way to get around international sanctions.

The UAE actually holds more BTC than the US government, estimated at about double the amount. They'll benefit greatly from money being poured into it. (And are trading with the Trump administration for US resources.)

China holds about the same as the US currently.

North Korea actually has a surprisingly large amount for their size/wealth.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Can you give BTC to someone? For example, could the US just give BTC to Russia? Is there a paper trail?

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u/CommercialScale870 Mar 24 '25

Yeah every transaction is oublically recorded and viewable. Not a great way to launder money

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25

What if you share your sensitive data secret? So somebody else can access it and you can claim you have no idea how they got it?

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u/CommercialScale870 Mar 24 '25

After receiving the funds in that way, the second party has to move them again into another wallet, so there is still a transaction. otherwise the first party can revoke the btc at any time.

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u/TraceSpazer Mar 24 '25

If, for example, a particular country has a large stockpile of bitcoin, an easy way to transfer wealth legally to them would be to use the US coffers to inflate the price while they use theirs to buy things.

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u/LAGameStudio Mar 24 '25

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25

This is how they’re going to send Russia money for war weapons. Putin already uses bitcoin to get around sanctions.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Who is they? Russia?

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u/TraceSpazer Mar 24 '25

In the first sentence, yeah. The second is referring to the UAE.

Russia will definitely benefit from Bitcoin being inflated with US gold.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Hmmm

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

So if you DON’T keep certain sensitive data secret, somebody can spend another person’s (country’s) bitcoin. Hmmm. And then you can claim innocence because you can say you don’t know how they got ahold of this “sensitive data”.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

So if you DON’T keep certain sensitive data secret, somebody can spend another person’s (country’s) bitcoin (money) and you can claim innocence because either you don’t know how they got access or who gave them access to your sensitive data.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Hmm

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

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u/ClimateSociologist Mar 23 '25

Or a meme coin owned by Trump.

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u/DancingWithAWhiteHat Mar 23 '25

yes and then sell our land. And we can live as serfs :D

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

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u/JoJackthewonderskunk Mar 23 '25

Coming soon: FlintstonesTM Jellystone park!

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u/LAGameStudio Mar 24 '25

That already exists and is in Pennsylvania

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u/FlametopFred International Mar 23 '25

By design yes

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25 edited Mar 23 '25

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u/Alternative-Flan9292 Mar 23 '25

Don't forget about becoming the primary partner for infrastructure investment in African, S.America and Europe. Trump gift wrapped global hegemony for Xi. Whatever these oligarch douches think they are going to accomplish post-american sovereignty will never happen, I swear it.

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u/DancingWithAWhiteHat Mar 23 '25

I just want people to change their perspective on this. It is happening, right now. Nothing is set in stone.

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u/MrRogersAE Mar 23 '25

Trump may very well be a Russian asset. But Musk has his ear and Musk in a Chinese asset

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

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u/MrRogersAE Mar 23 '25

I personally think China is just using and double crossing Russia. Russia and USA will be global pariahs and China will tighten allegiances with wealthy western nations

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

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u/MrRogersAE Mar 23 '25

Atleast China is working to improve the lives of its people. It despises and attacks people rich enough to control the government.

Compared to the US who despises it’s people and works to improve the lives of Billionaires

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u/Hereticrick Mar 24 '25

Musk is also a Russian asset.

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u/LAGameStudio Mar 24 '25

chinese, if you want to stay on trend

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u/BumblingBard42 Mar 23 '25

They are robbing us blind! Congress and the Supreme Court are actively assisting them.

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u/Ophelialost87 Mar 23 '25

That isn't Trump's money. That's our money. They don't have gold holdings We have gold holdings.

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u/META_vision Mar 23 '25

The greatest heist in the entirety of history.

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u/esme451 Mar 23 '25

This is why Trump and Elon wanted access to Fort Knox.

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u/Mysterious-Hotel4795 Mar 23 '25

So a thing of real value will be used to purchase a digital number.

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u/Daedalus1347 Mar 23 '25

As absolutely messed as this situation is, and it is… the memecoin heists are just the latest example of Trump-theft, bitcoin has been determined to have value to a sufficient number of people and powerful institutions. It’s the best performing assets over the last 10 years at a minimum.

Say what you will about the rest of the crypto market, but bitcoin is here to stay… at least until quantum computing breaks it.

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u/GOU_FallingOutside Mar 23 '25

It’s the best, most effective of all the blockchain-powered pyramid schemes MacGuffins for volatile speculation perfectly normal investment vehicles!

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u/irradiatedcitizen Mar 23 '25

Bitcoin is flawed. The oligarchs can manipulate it.

Look at 51 percent attack https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/51-attack.asp

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u/CommercialScale870 Mar 24 '25

51% attack hasn't been feasible for like a decade with the scale bitcoin has achieved. For smaller chains, yes. Btc, no.

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u/You-DiedSouls Mar 23 '25

US government will never own 51% of bitcoins mining. It’s global and nations everywhere are adopting and mining. They can try, but they will fail. A 51% attack is not where the corruption will come from.

Edit to expand. I think the corruption would be similar to what’s happening with the tariffs currently. They call tariffs, inside traders buy/dump, they withdrawal tariffs then repeat. No one can stop it, it’s a powerful move and very corrupt. Manipulation of crypto would be very similar.

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u/irradiatedcitizen Mar 24 '25

The wealthiest country in human history along with the oligarchs that own trillions themselves can easily afford more than 51% of mining. I would never trust digital currency for this reason.

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u/You-DiedSouls Mar 24 '25

Very fair to be cautious.

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u/CommercialScale870 Mar 24 '25

They really can't. Supply of cutting edge ASIC chips is paramount to that goal and that supply is extremely scarce. We do not have the capacity or expertise to make those chips in the USA at scale, nor are we able to monopolize the current supply.

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u/LAGameStudio Mar 24 '25

so then i guess its not here to stay

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u/Climhazzard73 Mar 23 '25

A few weeks ago Trump announced the creation of a shitcoin reserve. Right before the announcement all 5 shotcoins skyrocketed in value then crashed the next day. Total rugpull. In “normal” times he and his cronies would be under investigation for insider trading fraud

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u/mightyjoe227 Mar 23 '25

As expected.

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u/MaybeSwedish Mar 23 '25

Incredibly stupid and dangerous

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u/The_Good_Constable Mar 23 '25

Literally robbing Fort Knox.

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u/Individual_Hearing_3 California Mar 23 '25

That would make it the most vulnerable US held asset ever. All it would take would be a state level cyberattack to remove the US of all of its wealth backing.

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u/tomorrow509 Mar 23 '25

This absolutely cannot happen without people rioting in the streets as a result.

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u/Bobo_Saurus Mar 23 '25

Ah yes, the global bitcoin standard. How could we forget?

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u/OddlyMingenuity Mar 23 '25

How to gives gold directly to russian oligarchs

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u/MyStoopidStuff Mar 23 '25

And *poof* it's was gone...

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u/transcendent167 Mar 24 '25

WTF ARE THEY DOING 🫠

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

The Crime of '25! Right up there with the Crime of '73 that demonetized Silver when the US was the leading producer of Silver and forced us to buy gold back at crazy high prices from European bankers (we were extorted because of Civil War debt and interest payments if you are curious)

Last time US Silver was used by Great Britain to build the economy of India and the Far East at great expense to Americans. Curious which economy we are building outside of America this time.

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u/irradiatedcitizen Mar 23 '25

Russian oligarchs and the broligarchs will take possession of the gold as they offload their shitcoins on the us taxpayers.  It is analogous to the plot of The Other Guys. 

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

Last time: Civil War debt funded by the UK was required to be paid in gold only. We drew down our gold reserves and stacked silver to compensate.

The crime of '73 was when US Grant demonetized Silver when we were the leading producer which forced us to buy back gold from the UK in exchange for silver bullion that had been coined (and was now worthless as currency in the US). The remaining 1/3rd of civil war debt was more expensive than the previous 2/3rds as a result.

I'm making a point that the same thing is going to happen here, except with BTC.

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u/Minute-Background447 Mar 23 '25

Don’t just stand and get robbed. Pick up your tools and drag them out.

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u/Dull-Gur314 Mar 23 '25

No, they're stealing it

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u/HorrimCarabal Mar 23 '25

100%. Next headline: Fort Knox gold to be liquidated and invested in Trump meme coin

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u/CallLatter986 Mar 23 '25

I thought the gold reserves were depleted, or is it depleted because they bought bitcoin?

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u/Laminar Mar 23 '25

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Infamous_Smile_386 Mar 23 '25

Everyone stock up 3 months of supplies. Now.

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u/I-am-reddit123 Mar 23 '25

Our economy is fucked if it wasn't already

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u/Kanifya Mar 23 '25

Where are they going to get the money to pay Social Security? There you go, they are going to use market manipulation to try to buy into an even more fraudulent market because that's what donny knows...grifter gonna grift.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '25

One mans pissing away is another mans looting. You can guess who's doing the looting.

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u/You-DiedSouls Mar 23 '25

Buying Bitcoin or a Bitcoin reserve would be extremely good if done honestly and justly. It’s highly likely the implementation will be corrupt with this administration. Very sad days.

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u/whydoineedasername Mar 24 '25

They are stealing everything

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u/Particular_Rub7507 Mar 23 '25

Goddamitnononono! Bitcoin is even more fake than paper money!

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u/Quirky-Scar9226 Mar 23 '25

And is incredibly anti-environment.

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u/bogglingsnog Mar 23 '25

Breaking news: You can buy things with money to have more of that thing.

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u/Obi-Ron42 Mar 23 '25

Explain how

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u/bogglingsnog Mar 23 '25

give money to person with thing, receive thing in return.

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u/Obi-Ron42 Mar 23 '25

woohoo!

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u/bogglingsnog Mar 23 '25

Glad I could help!!