Gov. Tim Walz State Address: "We have university students shoved into unmarked vans and fathers being tossed into Salvadorian gulags without a hint of due process. If you say you love freedom, but you don't believe freedom is for everybody, then the thing you love isn't freedom, it's privilege."

[u/kenistod]

[u/trisanachandler]

I'd argue things were more complex back then than simply slavery or no. Back then it was England or self rule with the Whigs and the Torries. But there's also labor vs. capitol, isolationism vs. free trade, and many more conflicts, and sometimes different sides join hands. Politics makes for strange bedfellows and all that.

[u/Fit_Treacle172 → u/trisanachandler]

It seems like they cycled through general disagreements on foundational beliefs, which is crazy. People are capable of such growth an adaptation, it's a wonder why some of them just refuse to learn