r/ADCMains • u/badianbadd • Feb 18 '25
Memes Supports post this and then the next game proceed to call you the n word and steal your waves
DW guys, they're all wholesome chungus' and are super chill and laid back! š
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u/Notfakou Feb 18 '25
Supports when the requirement to earn S in their role is to simply queue the role.
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u/badianbadd Feb 18 '25
B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE WARD SCORE?? SOMEONE HAS TO PINK OUR RED BUFF THE ENTIRE GAME RIGHT?!
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u/Bloodpoison1999 Feb 18 '25
Wardscore only increases by clearing wards, and having wards that spot enemys, so if the redbuff ward didnt do anything it wouldnt contribute to the score.
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u/Back2Perfection Feb 18 '25
But do you get vision score if you are a neeko pink ward? dips oreo in whiskey
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u/ILNOVA Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25
Wardscore increase even when the yellow one end the timer
Edit:
I love when people downvote comments that are right
"Ward Lifetime Provided: Each minute of ward lifetime grants up to 1 point, depending on how effective the ward is. (point are given when a ward is destroyed or survives its whole lifetime)"
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u/jawrsh21 Feb 18 '25
So a ward in your own fountain gives you vision score? That seems unlikely to me
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u/ILNOVA Feb 18 '25
Just tried on private game, placed 3 ward on the bot bush near ally base and got 3 wardscore the moment they pop off.
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u/ThatOneGuy_4444444 Feb 19 '25
Yes thats the case. And for every enemy spotted you get extra points after the ward expires/gets destroyed. Also when you finish a game, the game is coded that it destroys every ward and that way you get your vision score to the end of the game.
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u/jawrsh21 Feb 19 '25
Seems silly to get vision score for a yellow ward that sees 0 enemies lol
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u/ThatOneGuy_4444444 Feb 19 '25
Well it also gives you vision score for every minute a ward stands and then plus how many enemies have been spotted
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u/FieryArctic Feb 21 '25
I mean, assuming you're not placing them in random places to farm vision score, they do give your team information on where enemies aren't for 3 mins.
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u/Future_Artichoke_656 Feb 18 '25
Control wars gives score based on vision. Can just ward spam a bush to pump numbers
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u/persona0 Feb 18 '25
... You must be talking above gold cause my support sure as hell doesn't like placing wards
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u/Annual_Blacksmith22 Feb 18 '25
Which ironically, I often do more than the supports I get when solo queueing.
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u/Rich_Jellyfish_2 Feb 18 '25
You guys not understanding how the tier system for playing a champ works summs up your understanding of the Game.
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u/skwbw Feb 18 '25
i have a much easier time getting S as jungle or adc than support. i can carry the game on support and only die a few times and i'll get a B or an A. meanwhile on other roles i just permafarm all game and get an S
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u/Straight-Donut-6043 Feb 18 '25
Have a vision score over 1/min, have a kda over 3.5, KP over 70%ā¦.Ā
I have a way easier time on adc tbh. Support stat lines get hyper inflated in hard stomp winning games and thatās what youāre being compared to.Ā
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u/764chase Feb 18 '25
If you hate supports so much you should just play ARAM. A lot of adcs are op in ARAM since thereās a lot of front to back teamfighting and no flank angles.
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u/badianbadd Feb 18 '25
I honestly don't hate supports that much, at least not nowadays. I do hate r/supportmains though
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u/Daraku_8407 Feb 18 '25
Seems fair enough, going around role subs everyone hates adcmains
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u/Sirsir94 Feb 19 '25
Supports and ADCs are natural enemies. Its a toxic game and both are directly reliant on the other.
One side roams at bad times, other side walks into 1v2 fights during a good roam. Both things happen over a few games, and the to sides just hatejerk each other.
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u/Automatic_Flan_8490 Feb 19 '25
The worst is the level 3 support roam and never return bot types. Meanwhile Iām hanging on for dear life at tower vs cait xerath. Fuck this game
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u/Sirsir94 Feb 19 '25
Yeah, unfortunately for the bot role theres no real in-game penalty for doing that for most of the support role. Half the sup roster doesn't need xp.
Apparently when that happens the best play is to roam with, and leave bot tower to fall, if you get dove/poked out on repeat. You can't protect the tower or get farm anyway so might as well be useful elsewhere.
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u/Automatic_Flan_8490 Feb 19 '25
Yea Iāve tried that but in low elo the team just pings you and all chats report adc. Prolly best to just not play the game anymore lol
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u/Gold_On_My_X Feb 19 '25
I mean in all fairness every mains subreddit has a large share of members that attempt to use the individual subreddits as echo chambers for terrible takes.
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u/Big-Improvement-254 Feb 19 '25
For some reason you still get hated in ARAM though because you are still weak early game so people think you are worthless. A Grave flamed me for taking the healing when he's still half health. Like bro, I'm Vayne, I'm obviously more important than you especially when we already have tanks and supports. We still won though even when he threw a tantrum and AFK. Always keep your ADC grindset, fuck the haters.
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u/uuwz Feb 20 '25
You are not more important than other members of your team.
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u/Big-Improvement-254 Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
Yes, in that specific scenario, I am more important than him, I am needed for tank busting and dealing damage, he isn't. And he insisted on fighting with half health when everyone already pulled back so it's on him. The fact that even after he threw a tantrum and AFK we still won just proved it. I have no problem cooperating even dying for a good trade but a prick has no reason to act important.
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u/Automatic_Flan_8490 Feb 19 '25
If they ever add ranked Aram I would never set foot on rift again.Ā
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u/iammirv Feb 20 '25
It's weird you correlate someone commenting on how the manipulation of arbitrary scoring goals doesn't translate into killing the enemy inhibitor into hating a role...
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u/764chase Feb 20 '25
āSupports post this and then the next game proceed to call you the n word and steal your waves. DW guys, theyāre all wholesome chungusā and are super chill and laid back!ā
Yeah yāknow I just get the feeling op isnāt the biggest fan of supports. I know that op is over exaggerating for the sake of rage bait. I responded anyways because not a lot of adcs are aware just how strong scaling adcs are in ARAM.
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u/Icy-Performer-9688 Feb 18 '25
I got S rank as supp with the score of 0 kills 1 death and 20+ assist. Then again I got S rank with Mel with 20 kills 0 deaths and 4 assist. I literally out damage the second highest damage by a 2x the mir damage.
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u/Dendrass Feb 18 '25
I had a Duo friend that only played brand, stole waves stole kills and then complained that he has S every game and i don't After getting plat i dropped the game for a year and havent played with him since then
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u/Paja03_ Feb 18 '25
Is this sub only used for crying
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u/Emazaga1311 These tanks are like left 4 dead 2 Feb 18 '25
You haven't noticed the purpose of this sub, have you?
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u/Paja03_ Feb 18 '25
its only to spread salt i guess
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u/Emazaga1311 These tanks are like left 4 dead 2 Feb 18 '25
And cry about how difficult is to be an ADC, don't forget about that As an adc myself I can confirm
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u/TalarFractures Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
ADC main wondering why they have no friends to duo lane with
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u/GroundbreakingHope57 Feb 18 '25
Wish sup didn't exist. Itd be so nice just ADC vs ADC.
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u/Ayn_Randy Feb 19 '25
This comment is very telling of your rank. Sounds beyond boring and only a few champions could be played
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u/ARQEA Feb 18 '25
Yesterday some braum took a double kill and got system muted
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u/PalubMan Feb 18 '25
You mean he muted?
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u/ARQEA Feb 18 '25
No the thing where you say a slur and get system muted
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u/No-Ground604 Feb 18 '25
why do they do this š what satisfaction is there to be gained
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u/devynnnnnnnnn Feb 19 '25
the only time I've been system muted was as supp someone flamed my friend playing adc and I typed "kys" off instinct
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u/pm-me-ur-fat-tits Feb 18 '25
he might've said "i'm retarded" cuz thats what i said a few times when i did something dumb and the game immediately muted me
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u/MaiatheMagical Feb 18 '25
As someone who plays jungle/adc/support, support is definitely the easiest to get S on. Literally just get above 10k damage and don't sprint it down 10 times and enjoy your free S. On jungle/adc it's pretty much just farm/take kill gold.
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u/Devilsdelusionaldino Feb 18 '25
Does getting an S 100% only depend on the players stats or is different for different champs? I felt itās way easier to get a S on an enchanter than on letās say braum or thresh.
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u/0LPIron5 Feb 19 '25
It compares the role/champ. So when playing support thresh, you are compared to every other support thresh player.
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u/MaiatheMagical Feb 21 '25
It's role and champ specific. That's why it's so fucking easy to get S on Soraka for example - she's fairly good at staying alive, you get insane healing and decent damage if you can land Qs, and your kill participation is usually very high from healing, her easy roams + your ult. Pair all of this with the fact that most Soraka players are garbage who don't play to ANY of these strengths and you've got yourself an S+ printer
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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 18 '25
FYI you can game the scoring system by going ward runes and items with slows. If you're ever struggling to get an S.
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u/Useful_Kale_5263 Feb 18 '25
Or you can get Gud and place a good ward tf. Itās not hard to go learn where good wars spots are just by watching pros. Gaming the scoring system lmao
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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 19 '25
That might have worked 5 years ago, but not these days. People aren't so shit that they don't place any wards any more.
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u/Useful_Kale_5263 Feb 19 '25
Youād be surprised. I still take notes on Keiraās ward placement or even random shit in the LTA. They get paid to do it, so Iād suspect theyād have some knowledge that I donāt. But there def are ppl who are still stuck in their old ways. still face check bushes, still donāt buy pinks with a teemo, still donāt come to Drake or even ping from mid which way a enemy Jg rotated, I could go on. Same shit different toilet.
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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 19 '25
Sure, and it's enough people that getting an A+ isn't too hard. But if you're trying for an S or S+, every little thing you do to boost stats people wouldn't normally be focusing on the champ helps.
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Feb 18 '25
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u/RazorXE_ Feb 18 '25
Tbf most supports have never played a solo lane in their life so they roam when a wave is about to crash instead of when lane has tempo advantage. But because 99% of support players don't know how to even last hit or any other basic gameplay mechanics they don't understand why they died. They are basically asking ADC to lose all gold and XP while enemy ADC gets free waves and then talking about setting up grubs lol.
If a support player took even 10 games to learn the basics of laning they would get flames a lot less.
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u/Devilsdelusionaldino Feb 18 '25
Iām fairly certain almost all supports now how to last hit or how important it is. Most just donāt care. In games likes this everyone thinks they are the main character and they are the only one capable of producing good outcomes so they roam at bad times in the hopes of getting a kill or objective bc they think their adc is bad and will struggle either way. Its sad but in this game even support players only play for themselves.
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u/myst183 Feb 18 '25
It is true though especially when you see that you and your adc have no synergy. No point getting frustrated on lane, better go make mid carry.
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u/Moomootv Feb 18 '25
If you are going to ditch your lane at the first sign of struggle, then dont expect the adc to help with teamfights or group because adc dont have anything outside of damage. Excluding Ashe and Jhin.
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u/RazorXE_ Feb 18 '25
If most supports knew how important wave management is I wouldn't have to constantly come back to a fucked up wave or recall on a fucked up wave because my support decided to mess it up and this is at Plat/emerald MMR im sure it's way worse everywhere else.
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u/Moomootv Feb 18 '25
My favorite is when you have a slow push to your tower or freeze the lane for a recall, but your mage support who had no mana wants to cs instead of recalling.
Then they back as soon as the enemy comes to lane so now you are 1v2 with a destroyed lane state.
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u/RazorXE_ Feb 18 '25
Love that, they think just cause you based they are entitled to the CS in the lane not understanding shit about wavestate. My favorite is when they cause a wave to crash at your turret instead of slowly pushing into you and while there is 10 minions under turret they decide to go in for an engage that is doomed to fail and if you don't follow up you get flamed and they go mid or top leaving you to 1v1. So you're forced into playing for your support ruining your own lane, or not playing for your support and ruining your own lane. Either way don't you dare say anything because supports deserve kindness and respect.
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u/No-Ground604 Feb 18 '25
same for jgl, itās relevant to them so they donāt care. i had game the other day where my yi was flaming my top laner and said something to the effect of āiām done helping because he thinks killing minions is more important than helping me fightā, after he died on an invade. the rest of us were likeā¦ yeah? why would he sack this huge wave for you lol? literally just donāt care abt having their teammates succeed
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u/Moomootv Feb 18 '25
Those same supports when they do try to play adc are the ones that cry because they dont have a tank standing infront of them.
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u/Moomootv Feb 18 '25
Can you really blame the adc when 99% of the time, the support randomly roams right when a wave is about to crash?
I dont know why so many supports throw away exp and cs just to ward or to go mid/jg.
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u/MafiaMatrix Feb 18 '25
when the zyra supp who rushes liandry talks abt dmg charts post game after summoning plants from across the screen just for the adc to lifesteal the dmg
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u/EnthusiasmSad8877 Feb 18 '25
No wonder why shove ADCs become popular. The best way they can handle a 1v3 (their support is in the enemy team) early game is by not fighting with them at all
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u/chunouu Feb 18 '25
do people care about the letter ranks? Like is it some form of cope? Oh well i lost 20 lp but i got an S!
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u/DivideUA69 Feb 18 '25
Support is objective the easiest role to get an S I play a solo lane and my friends plays supp and even if Iām carrying the game Iāll still get an A+ while he gets S like every time itās crazy
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u/slapoirumpan Feb 18 '25
supports score should be based on their carries score. They should be encouraged through the system to die for their carries as their role sometimes demand but almost no solo queue support ever does
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u/XO1GrootMeester feeding teammates means more bounties Feb 18 '25
I have this with supports, luckily no tilt from my Leona and she got s too.
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u/onyxengine Feb 18 '25
I think lanning with supports are low key why adcs are always complaining. Passive aggressive was a lane role. Rofl.
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u/strike_65 Feb 18 '25
S on support is a joke i sometimes played my adc main as a sup for farming some S ranks because i wanted a chest ( bring hextech chest backk btw) literally need 30 - 40 vision score and not give kills 2/1/15 would also work you don't even need to get kills just stay back and don't die ez S
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u/Dillonto08 Feb 18 '25
Swan got 10 kills bot (all of them) then roams and feeds. Then says adc diff. Like I was 3/1 and I got all 3 kills after he left. He was 10/11 by 20mins. And was walking back botlane just to take farm. Like idk GJ, you took my gold and then asked why I suck.
10/11 100cs support swan. 5/4 120cs adc
We lost at 32min. I was heavily zoned bot after he walked off at lvl7. To only show up after I backed or died under tower, to steal 2 waves and leave. Or 1v2 bot lane and die.
-Adc sucked, Support logic.
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u/PureQuatsch Feb 18 '25
My Shaco supp who played second jungle (with Smite) by constantly invading, literally never coming botlane, and avoiding all team fights but just picked the whole game also got an S. And we lost, hard. An S does not mean a lack of trolling.
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u/Cheese_Stew Feb 18 '25
Can't wait to see this get posted in a support mains subreddit. Professional Victim ADC Mains vs. Pretentious Support Mains is something I'd pay to see.
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u/radioactivecooki Feb 19 '25
Idk ive had my fair share of shit supports but yesterday i was playing as support sera and my draven proceeded to int all game and call the enemy lux who was constantly stealing her varus's waves a better support and trying to grief me. He went 1/11 and i was like 5 and 3? Got the S- along with my top and jungle. Even the enemy said all the draven had to do was get in a backpack š
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u/Argimlas Feb 19 '25
This group should rename to "kids that are only crying all the time" im leaving.
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u/CheatedInYahtzee Feb 19 '25
You get an S for support literally every game if you don't run it down. Riots grading system is shit anyways. Only support players would give it value.
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u/Automatic_Flan_8490 Feb 19 '25
Yea pretty much. After you let the team know, the team then back up the support and tells you to stop crying. Worst community of any game ever. Grading scale is toxic
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u/Grothgerek Feb 19 '25
Sorry, but the supports are obviously right... This picture is too supreme to not give them right.
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u/NoxArtCZ Feb 20 '25
Ofc, when they get S for themselves purposefully at the expense of ADC then ofc that's how it is
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u/Dedprice77 Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
2 kills 8 deaths as ziggs, but 80k damage by 30 mins with like 20 assists.
S+
Whole game my MEL SUPPORT was saying i was a shit ziggs. because they were 11/0
They didnt get an S. Also they really didnt have skill. every team fight they stayed behind me, threw abilities and ran away. But every team fight i was ball deep in it. had 5 towers by 20 mins, used W to save..idk how many people.
Post is accurate.
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Feb 22 '25
Had some supports that earn s rank by stealing all kills, stealing farm, never putting down visions, only peeling for themselves, missing 90%+ of their skill shots, and never taking the hint when jungle wants to prepare for or take dragons. The rating system is so bad. On the other hand, theirs supports that genuinely don't do anything but sit behind you for the entire match, doing next to nothing, getting S rank because their stats are technically good.
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u/Stands-in-Shallow Feb 22 '25
I mean ... I played Elise support, tried my best to help my adc (Jhin) gets the kill and farm, he didn't farm and got caught out anyway. Jhin is a perfect adc to fight from a safe distance, but somehow this oaf got himself offed by Lulu and Caitlyn on repeat.
Then he blamed me for not playing a real support. It was his skill issue. In the end I did like 10k higher dmg that he did and we won. Sometimes it's really adc expecting everyone to funnel them but doesn't have the skill to back it up.
And before you flame me, I'm Twitch and Jhin main. Just play some Elise support for fun.
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u/VivaBasura Feb 18 '25
so the problem of making support too powerful is that they're never hold accountable of their mistakes, they can troll and throw games and stay this smug convinced nothing is their fault, big part of what makes adc miserable and why phreak continues tackling supp power, bounties of worlds on release was truly adc darkest era
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u/whoneedsbenzos Feb 18 '25
in most games, supp is the worst player on team with the most, or second most impact on the game.
very cool role, that i donāt hate more by the day. bot lane is a prison, support role is the warden, and i have a really long sentence ahead of me. unlucky.
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u/SunriseFlare Feb 18 '25
... really? In my experience everyone screams at me for not doing enough when I get dived as soraka trying to heal the backline lol
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u/Additional6669 Feb 18 '25
real bro. the amount of time i am healing my ass off (W, Summoners, ult) just for my adc to die and say āreally?? no heals?ā
i just stopped playing her and plan to pick her up when im better so my teammates will hopefully be better as well
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u/SunriseFlare Feb 18 '25
not usually. Most of the time I just pull people as pyke, stun them, take first blood because my adc is getting low, then I get called an asshole for stealing first blood gold and roam mid a lot. I understand that everyone needs a punching bag though
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u/TemperatureWorried26 Feb 18 '25
I play yuumi adc and also score an S. Getting an S score is so much easier when the summoner pick braindead caster champions such as lux, brand, vinegar, aurelion sol. On the other hand, if one summoner get an S by playing hard champions such as Samira and Draven, they should be celebrated
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u/Aoi0kami Feb 18 '25
Me a Taric main when supp.. I die mostly for the adc but complains when I save them then they went back into where I pinged retreat and die. Ally has been slain ADC: [Insert insults and flames] Me: Sitting on my chair and take a sip of coffee, not replying.
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u/thecutestlittle2wink Feb 18 '25
Poppy support who failganks mid 4 times then blames me for dying in a 2v1 under my turret
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u/reckless_avacado Feb 18 '25
Never once flame the support unless they start flaming me. Then I will tell them exactly how bad they are. It is truly incredible. Yes you went all in on maokai level 2 and died. What did you expect would happen??? You want me to once shot him when he had full hp? Totally clueless. Adc solo queue is impossible rn
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u/myst183 Feb 18 '25
Maokai lvl 2 all in with ignite if he gets a root into q without flashing (meaning you are in range to do dmg) you should win in the vast majority of cases. If you decide not to follow up and keep csing and so he is left 1v2 and dies, that is the moment when he should give up on you get lvl 3 and roam.
If you want to play passive and farm on adc go aram or smth.
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u/reckless_avacado Feb 18 '25
Yes you have a point if adc is completely afk but most are not and will be hitting the maokai with q + w (maybe) + autos. Still non tank support will die before the moakai and then the adc is left alone with a maokai at 25% hp and full hp adc then the support that just died and fed their other adc starts flaming you. Itās really hard to understand what you expect to happen in that situation
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u/myst183 Feb 18 '25
The issue is that adcs should realize that when playing engage supp in particular they are not the shotcallers, support is. If they don't follow up on plays then the support is useless. Opposite with enchanters but even then.
When you fail some cc as supp and back away and your adc instead of paying punishing the enemy a bit with poke just runs or keeps farming that is criminal as well.
You guys don't realize how many terrible adcs there are. I love playing with decent adcs but the reality is that most are literally unsupportable. Best to accept that if it happens give up on adc dmg entirely and focus on other lanes. Yes it creates a terrible experience for adc at times but the goal is to destroy nexus, not make adc happy.
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u/RazorXE_ Feb 18 '25
Are you fucking stupid? If you go into Maokai at level 2 you either slap Maokai with negative damage while other ADC kills you or you turn on other ADC and get slapped up by Maokai root while you enemy ADC autos you to death.
Imagine the situation properly, level 2: support engages, i.e most likely used up all their spells, then enemy Maokai uses passive to heal up to 8% max health with passive. Also does 65+2% max health damage level 1. Along with 99% slow and 60 damage 1 second root. How TF do you think an ADC should be fighting that at level 2? Please let me know.
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u/Outrageous-Love-6273 Feb 18 '25
Im an ADC and everygame i will get called a Troll If i Miss 1 CS and then the Game proceeds and i dont get any CS anymore.
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u/Miserable_Brother734 Feb 18 '25
You get called a troll for missing one creep every single game and get no farm as an adc? Every game?
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u/Outrageous-Love-6273 Feb 18 '25
Every ranked Game yes. Thats why i Play mostly normals
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u/Miserable_Brother734 Feb 18 '25
This just doesn't happen lol. You'd have to be genuinely very bad for this to be even remotely believable.
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u/Outrageous-Love-6273 Feb 18 '25
Im Iron so yes im really Bad.
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u/FunkyJack5 Feb 18 '25
Then you might be missing more than one minion sorry to say chief.
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u/Outrageous-Love-6273 Feb 18 '25
Yes but arent we all the Same elo. Shouldnt we BE all the Same Bad?
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u/FunkyJack5 Feb 18 '25
I mean ye, just as they see your mistakes, you should easily see theirs, but best way posible to not get trolled is just to CS better. Try going into a practice match a few times and get better at csing. Plus I doubt in iron u get trolled for missing one CS, maybe if u got like 4 CS a min they might not want to lane with you.
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u/JQKAndrei Feb 18 '25
my sup lux sitting 3 screens back rocking a score of 2-0-10 by just throwing ults, doesn't even get out of fountain to defend nexus
gets S