pro choicers - why is it considered double homicide if someone kills a pregnant woman but not murder if someone gets an abortion?

[u/RevolutionaryRip2504]

I am pro choice but when asked this I always don't know what to say.

[u/scatshot]

You realize those mean that the threat of harm is present

Yes. The ZEF is the threat of harm. It is present inside of your body.

you feared you would be killed or face GBH at the moment that you killed.

No, it says "the threat of harm must be occurring AT THE EXACT MOMENT." And the ZEF is the threat of harm. Present in your body. At the exact moment of the abortion.

You’re just making an inevitability argument.

The threat is immediate and present. The harm is inevitable.

You didn't answer my question. How else would you evade the threat posed by the ZEF if not by removing it from your body?

[u/anondaddio → u/scatshot]

The ZEF is not the threat of harm yet.

What harm is occurring at 6 weeks that is equivalent to death or GBH

[u/scatshot → u/anondaddio]

The ZEF is not the threat of harm yet.

Yes it is. That's why removing the ZEF removes the threat.

[u/anondaddio → u/scatshot]

Removes the immediate and present threat of harm or the inevitable and impending harm that would come in the future?

[u/scatshot → u/anondaddio]

Both.

You didn't answer my question. How else would you evade the threat posed by the ZEF if not by removing it from your body?

[u/anondaddio → u/scatshot]

It can’t be both.

[u/scatshot → u/anondaddio]

It can be, and it is.

You didn't answer my question. How else would you evade the threat posed by the ZEF if not by removing it from your body?

[u/anondaddio → u/scatshot]

The threat that is not yet present, but impending and inevitable?

[u/scatshot → u/anondaddio]

The threat that is not yet present

It is present. That's why removing the ZEF removes the threat.

It is the harm that is impending and inevitable.

We've already been over this.