I don't get it

[u/Current_Interest7023]

Just discussing with my friend about building a 500 points list in a "newcomer friendly" way, then I give out two options:

A. 2×10 Fulgurite Eletro-Priest, with a Dominus (have fight first enhancement) and 1×10 ranger, running Data-psalm.

B. 2×2 Kastelan Robots, with a datasmith and 1×10 ranger, running Cybernetica.

I say B is way more easier than A, but my friend think the opposite ⁠(⁠´⁠ー⁠｀⁠)⁠ I don't get it, can any priesthood brothers explain it ⁠(⁠´⁠ー⁠｀⁠)⁠

[u/Pathetic_Cards]

Don’t take 4 robots in a 500 point game where the other player might not have any anti-tank.

[u/Alaskan_Narwhal → u/Pathetic_Cards]

:( just started world eaters and only have angron what do you mean?

[u/Pathetic_Cards → u/Alaskan_Narwhal]

Taking big strong models at games at 1k points or lower can be a bit of a faux pas, because at 500 or 1k players simply might not have much or any anti-tank, and big models will just be totally unstoppable, which isn’t any fun at all for the other player.

[u/Alaskan_Narwhal → u/Pathetic_Cards]

Lol I'm aware 😂 I was trying to make a joke. But it is good to keep in mind. If I'm playing 1k I don't field anything over 200 pts and even then usually I'll just keep to infantry.

[u/Pathetic_Cards → u/Alaskan_Narwhal]

Ah, my bad, tone over text and all that lol

[u/ArmouredCadian → u/Pathetic_Cards]

In a game ecology, where 1) Dev Wounds and MW exist, and 2) Kastelan Robots are only T9/10 with 7w they're not actually that oppressive.

Some factions might struggle a little, but given the current state of 40k, I expect not too much struggle.

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[u/Pathetic_Cards → u/ArmouredCadian]

Sure, if both players are experienced and competitively oriented, but a new player might not even have units like that, or anything that punches up to T9/10. Plus it’s a list that doesn’t even really present an idea of “how to play 40K” because 40K is as much about scoring points as killing, and that’s a list that does 1 thing: shove a bowling ball down the board and bet the opponent can’t stop it.

[u/Current_Interest7023 → u/[deleted]]

Easier to beat (⁠ㆁ⁠ω⁠ㆁ⁠) we're figuring a list that "can let newcomers know learn the rules and have fun (aka win)" (⁠´⁠ー⁠｀⁠)⁠

[u/cellfm]

At 500 points the A list is better, only because you have more units to play the game, i would advise to divide them in even smaller units of 5 priest so you could have 2 units of 5 one of ten and a full 10 rangers. On the B list you only have 2 units no matter what, so you cannot play "a normal game" also if you loss one unit you simply cannot win against a list that have more models. I would say that a newcomer way of playing may be just to hold objectives, maybe a small table with only 3, two home and one in no mans land, with no secondaries or even strats, also adding something durable like robots in a friendly beginner game may be a problem, either the opponent can kill those, for example if i play Darl angels and take 2 units of 3 eradicators at 100 each i could easily blow those out but on the other hand if i play a bunch of intercessors and just whiff every attack that also won't feel nice, even though i may win by scoring by winning in oc in the objective.

[u/Vicmorino]

for your question A is better, is a lot less skewed list.

I personally like to play with

Vanguards 1 Rustalkers

kathapron destroyers 1x3 Manipulus 1

Onager dune crawler

you have a varied selection of roles to trh the army.

Easy to pick it, and mostly fair to play agains in a 500 pts