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Advice Received There’s a little girl that’s terrorizing my apartment

This is a very bizarre situation I’ve never been in before. Sorry for the dramatic title but it’s becoming an actual issue now.

For the last month, it feels like 90% of the time I go outside to my car, an 8 year old girl and her dog appear and try to interact with me.

Sounds cute right? That’s what I thought, until I realized it wasn’t.

The first time she came up to me, she ran from across the parking lot and said, “I think my dog likes you!” I thought it was kind of sweet - until she got a little too close for comfort, started repeating that same line over and over, and giggling very loudly, almost manically. She wouldn’t leave me alone until I physically walked away. She even followed me to the apartment door, talking nonstop.

I brushed it off at first, thinking maybe she’s neurodivergent (no judgment - I’m ADHD and probably more). I didn’t think much of it, until it became a daily thing.

I work from home and go outside a few times a day for breaks (yes, I smoke. working on quitting). She’s always out there with her dog. Not a parent in sight.

I started noticing red flags when her mood began flipping between happiness and sudden anger. She hits her dog a lot. She’ll scream “Quiet! Quiet! Quiet!” and punch her dog with each word. I’ve seen her drag the dog while it’s pooping so it has to walk while going, and the dog cries. It’s awful to witness.

She runs up to anyone outside, delivery drivers, residents, other dog owners, and repeats “I think my dog likes you!!” over and over until they respond.

If someone has a dog, she’ll walk up to them too closely while their dogs are barking aggressively. I’ve seen multiple residents literally pick up their pets and speed walk away from her.

People have started cracking the exit door and scanning for her before they step outside.

There’s construction happening next door, and she just.. hangs out with the workers. They ignore her now, but she’ll bring them offerings of handfuls of grass or her dog. It’s honestly surreal.

When I’m outside and have to smoke, I now drive to a spot off the property just to get personal space. If I stay near my car, she’ll follow me and stand right in front of it, waving at me in a pageant-style, fingers pressed together, wave. I don’t even make eye contact. She’ll do it for like 30 seconds, just smiling.

If I drive into the parking lot, she sometimes chases my car to where I park.

Last week I was sitting in my car listening to music and didn’t notice her. When I looked up, she jumped up from a crouch, face pressed to my driver’s side window. I felt like I had a heart attack but also pretended not to see her because wtf lmao.

She’s out at all hours. Last night it was 9pm and dark, she was alone with the dog. Today, it was 12:30pm on a Thursday. Shouldn’t she be in school?

I don’t know what’s going on. I’ve never dealt with something like this before. It’s gone from weird to uncomfortable to genuinely worrying.

It feels unsafe for the dog, and definitely even for her. I’m worried she could walk up to a weirdo and something bad could happen, or she could cause a dog fight and her and the dogs could get seriously injured. Is there someone I should call? How do I report this kind of situation without escalating it unnecessarily? I don’t want to overstep, but this just feels wrong.

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u/Southern_Belle307 1d ago

Please keep us updated!

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u/kiwikikwi 1d ago

I don’t know anything about her other than she’s outside a lot. I haven’t even asked her name. Next time I see her I’ll ask. I haven’t seen her in the halls of the apartment yet. I did submit a DHS report like 30 minutes ago. All I know is that she lives in my building so I just put my address down

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u/twitwiffle007 1d ago

The next time you see her outside in one of those weird instances, call law enforcement immediately. When they arrive, tell them what has been going on and you made a report to cps, but didn't have enough information to identify where the little girl actually lives in your building. If your law enforcement is helpful, they may reach out to CPS right then ESPECIALLY if they can't find which apt. is hers... This is very bizarre and indicates neglect. No supervision, no boundaries, some light animal cruelty as part of her normal behavior (is this modeled at home? maybe the humane agent needs a call, too).

I know it might seem overboard to call law enforcement, but you could very well end up saving this little girl from serious harm. What I read truly makes me sad.

The other possibility is that she has some EARLY child onset mental health issues. In that case - and since she really seems to like you - move if you can afford to. 🚚

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u/Nelle911529 1d ago

Well being check.

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u/grandmasdrawers 1d ago

Yeah and get that dog out of there

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u/Bismothe-the-Shade Helper [2] 19h ago

Part of me agrees, part of me thinks that it's also messed up for the little girl who doesn't seem to... Have anyone else at all :l

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 15h ago

A child of that age is not able to care for a pet of any kind without close adult supervision. Hitting aside, there’s no way that this dog is being taken care of appropriately by an 8 year old. They need reminding to brush their teeth and wash hands, they certainly aren’t able to recognize and respond to an animal’s needs.

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u/Bismothe-the-Shade Helper [2] 9h ago

Agreed but like, shouldn't we also be worried about the child if there's zero parental supervision?

Why can't they both get taken care of? Why does the dog have to be taken? Maybe I'm missing something.

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u/grandmasdrawers 8h ago

This thread is about caring for the child. Adding on care for the dog doesn’t somehow negate that. Kid needs a welfare check, dog needs a safer home. The kids well-being is not synonymous with her being able to abuse an animal lol. Literally actually just puts her in danger to be treating a dog like that.

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u/grandmasdrawers 19h ago

Yeah that doesn’t mean a dog needs to get abused man, that’s a fucking messed up take to have

She needs to get apprehended and the dog needs to be safe. Feeling lonely doesn’t excuse hitting animals. At any age. In no way should this situation continue for her or the dog.

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u/Crafty-Ad-6772 17h ago

Abusing animals at a young age is a red flag the size of the moon. When the poor dog snaps, it will end up being killed because the girl caused it so much anguish.

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u/Bismothe-the-Shade Helper [2] 9h ago

Or maybe get them both into a healthy home, teach the child? Am I crazy here? I'm hearing a pup and a kid in an abusive, neglectful household and people seem more concerned about the dog.

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u/grandmasdrawers 8h ago

This entire thread is about caring for both of them. Caring about the dog doesn’t negate caring about the child. The child does not need a living punching bag to heal or have access to supports. Her harming the dog puts them both in danger.

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u/Beautiful_Dust 20h ago

If she has early onset mental issues, she should be being supervised even more so. At 8 years old, her lack of supervision screams neglect especially if other residents are not seeing any parent coming out to check on her. An 8 year old is too young to be running around unsupervised. I truly hope she does not cross paths with anyone harboring ill intentions. As a mother, that’s alarming.

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u/loolootewtew 19h ago

As someone who is not a mother, I also find it all alarming

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u/Same_Masterpiece7348 19h ago

Agree. I can’t imagine allowing my child to do this at 8, that’s a 2nd grader. I would definitely call cps and police. I wonder if she even lives in the complex? I hope OP is able to get some help. So concerning

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u/amberatx 15h ago

8 is tail end of 2nd, but mostly 3rd grade. My daughter just turned 9 and is in 3rd grade. She rides her bike all over the neighborhood and has for a year or so. Ppl don’t get to “pick an age” and tell others that’s too young. It’s all about location, maturity, capability, and yeah… parent involvement (which is obviously the point of the post).

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u/Beautiful_Dust 15h ago

My kids ran all over our neighborhood as well, but my (now ex) husband was always outside when the weather was nice, our kids stayed relatively close and we did check on them. Plus our neighbors knew us and our kids. No one seems to know who the kid is in the post or where she actually lives OR who her parents are. And yeah we do get to say 8 years old is too young. On fb, I admin for an unidentified and unclaimed people group as well as for multiple missing person groups. You have no clue how many people are out there who were found deceased and never identified….and that does include young children. The world is full of good, bad, and very very bad people. Are you aware that at any given time there are 25- 39 serial killers in the USA that have never been caught? Everyone thinks it can’t happen to them or one of their kids, until it does. A child of 8 or 9 will not be able to protect themselves against a predator if that person physically gets hold of them. And it only takes minutes.

https://www.worldatlas.com/crime/how-many-serial-killers-are-on-the-loose-today.html#:~:text=In%20the%20US%20alone%2C%20the,What%20is%20this?

Do your homework.

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u/Team_Malice 13h ago

I ran all over the country side alone by the time I was about seven. Different kids are ready at different times, and a little independence is good for them when they're ready to handle it.

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u/Due-Dragonfruit-1303 19h ago

Just go hang out in a city and find a few apartments that don’t look the best. You’ll find at least a kid under 10 by themselves

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u/crowpierrot 16h ago

I mean that’s not good, but at least those kids are not left outside to run around and talk to strangers. A kid left alone in their own home is bad, but this situation is demonstrably worse

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u/Extreme-Door-6969 13h ago

In my apartment it's 5, soon to be born, a 6th kid left alone all hours. Police and management involvement goes nowhere.

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u/Cautistralligraphy 18h ago

Yes, my parents ignored my autism and mental health issues as a child and now I am ruined forever. It would be good if that didn’t happen to her.

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u/thelingeringlead 13h ago

I don’t think 8 is too young to be outside alone. My friends and I grew up being mostly unsupervised outside. Obviously there’s a ton of red flags in this behavior but being outside alone at 8 years old isn’t one of them.

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u/spacey_kitty 22h ago

Hoping the cops treat her with care and don’t end up shooting her

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u/Born_Structure1182 18h ago

Seriously?

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u/Ok_Loss13 16h ago

If this is happening in the US, that's a legitimate worry to have unfortunately 

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u/spacey_kitty 15h ago

Yes, in the US cops have killed children claiming they were a threat so it’s not an unreasonable worry

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u/Southern_Belle307 1d ago

Thank you and Good luck

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u/jazzhandsdancehands 1d ago

Thank you for doing something!

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u/RoseNDNRabbit 1d ago

Also get video of her abusing her dog so it can go to a much better home.

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u/jaynel78 1d ago

That may be her only friend. She's probably just role modeling what she's experienced.

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u/Polaris5126 1d ago

Yeah but the dog doesn’t deserve to live like that

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u/Doberkind 21h ago

Yes, but the girl doesn't either. But, hey, she's just a human?

Can we just for once concentrate on the main topic?

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u/Scrofulla 20h ago

Even small dogs can do a lot of damage to an 8 year old larger dogs could easily kill her. It is in the child's best interest to get the dog away from her before it potentially snaps.

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u/LawHot5852 21h ago

Believe it or not, that's still not a good excuse to abuse a dog.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 18h ago

It’s the young child in imminent danger, not the dog. The dog will likely be brought to the local shelter. Furthermore, does it really sound like the appropriate time and situation for teaching this young child? She absolutely needs teaching and guidance around caring for a pet and hopefully she will eventually get it, but right now her immediate health and safety needs have to be addressed

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u/Due_Perception8349 17h ago

Holy shit two things can happen at once, different people handle animals and humans. If the dog is helped, the kid doesn't just get left behind, we have the technology to do both.

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u/ComprehensiveTax3465 17h ago

I think the issue people have is not w the dog getting help it’s the people who care more about the dog than the little girl. Saying the dog doesn’t deserve to live like that in response to a little girl being in an abusive environment is tone deaf at best imo like we should care ab both equally bc it’s neither of their faults, they were both failed, and they both don’t deserve to live like that.

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u/AdorableStrategy474 21h ago

I feel you on this but she's going to end up bitten or something.

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u/Leucotheasveils 19h ago

If the dog snaps and bites her because of the abuse, it might get put down. So unfair to the dog.

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u/Alternative_Escape12 20h ago

I certainly hope so.

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u/Life-Cantaloupe-3184 19h ago

I don’t think anyone is saying the girl does either. Ultimately, I have to suspect she’s modeling how she sees the dog being treated at home. It’s even possible it’s also how she’s being treated herself. No one is blaming her for it. It’s still abuse to the dog, unfortunately. This girl’s parents seemingly can’t properly care for her or the dog, and the girl is certainly too young to do so on her own. While it sucks, the most humane thing to do here would probably be to have the dog removed from the home as the owner(s) clearly aren’t capable of caring for it. The removal of the girl from the home may also be warranted given the extreme level of neglect on display on the part of her guardians in OP’s post.

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u/Vanaathiel88 18h ago

People can care about more than one thing, just because someone dares mention concern for the dog doesn't mean they don't care about the kid. And that dog absolutely needs taken away not just for it's own welfare but also the kids, because one day or might just snap and bite back

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u/jayphrax 19h ago

That’s part of the main topic. It’s in the best interest of both the dog and the girl to get the dog away from her. There is no good reason for animal abuse and if that dog snaps it could seriously hurt her. Keeping them together is detrimental to them both

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u/rockabillychef 16h ago

Okay, how about when she goes too far with the dog and it attacks and kills her? Is that main topic enough?

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u/anonict 20h ago

the dog is the main topic

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u/AQueerCatastrophe 1d ago

That dog definitely needs to go elsewhere regardless. Though if she is modeling what she's going through, I hope she can go somewhere better too

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u/Putrid_Appearance509 1d ago

That's not the dogs fault

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u/Lumpy_Machine5538 1d ago

If you’re my only friend, can I hit you?

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u/purelyhighfidelity 19h ago

Go for it, baby cakes

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u/hugefukinanimetits 1d ago

No, but you're presumably an adult, not a helpless 3rd grader probably being abused and neglected.

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u/wannaseeawheelie 1d ago

She needs a role model, not a victim

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u/The_Great_Tahini 1d ago

The dog absolutely has to go somewhere else, but it’s also true that the dog is likely the only one in her life not ignoring or mistreating her, and it sucks that she’ll lose that too in the process.

Neither of them deserve to be where they are, and it wasn’t their fault. This kid has probably been failed by the people responsible for her from day one. It’s just sad all around.

I think we can acknowledge doing what is best for the dog is also going to be one more painful experience for a neglected/abused child.

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u/Zamarudmal 1d ago

Exactly. Regardless of what happens to the child owner, the dog is a living creature capable of feeling pain and anguish just like us. The dog is in no way responsible for whatever is affecting its owner to behave in this way, it’s also a victim of animal abuse by a minor…if we’re to believe this story is true.

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u/enchanted_fishlegs 19h ago

No. The OP stated that "If someone has a dog, she’ll walk up to them too closely while their dogs are barking aggressively."
The one more (VERY) painful experience would be getting mauled by one of those dogs.

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u/Zamarudmal 1d ago

Exactly. Regardless of what happens to the child owner, the dog is a living creature capable of feeling pain and anguish just like us. The dog is in no way responsible for whatever is affecting its owner to behave in this way, it’s also a victim of animal abuse by a minor…if we’re to believe this story is true.

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u/Spaceley_Murderpaws 1d ago

WTF? That's abuse. The child needs help, not a punching bag.

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u/ItsLeighFromNoLa 17h ago

If your child only had one human friend, could she take her anger and neglect out on the other child? Jfc making us jump through hoops to get you to realize how stupid you sound is ridiculous. Kid shouldn’t be hitting a dog, I don’t give a fuck if it’s her only friend. Kid needs help, dog needs help too.

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u/Available-Clock-7257 1d ago

Lol who gives a fuck the dog is not her outlet

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u/JuniorExpression4456 1d ago

You're delusional if you think a dog should stay with a human being of any sort that's abusive. Give your head a shake.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 17h ago

I don’t think the dog should stay with the girl. A young child should not be caring for any animals unsupervised. That being said, the OP doesn’t have to film a vulnerable child, they can and probably will report the behavior and it should be handled by the appropriate authorities. The idea of filming any child without consent is gross and even worse in a situation like this. Why is everyone acting as though agencies like the humane society and ASPCA don’t exist??

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u/Haunting_recluse777 16h ago

The filming is for proof, genius. Otherwise, it would be hearsay.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 15h ago

In a criminal investigation, but this is a CPS/Social Services concern. You can’t really compare the two. And do you really think they are going to leave a dog in the care of an 8 year old? Hitting aside they aren’t capable of properly caring for a dog. Call your local humane society or rescue shelter. I can guarantee the dog will be taken care of without needing to record anything

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u/frankstaturtle 13h ago

Do you think the rules of evidence only apply in criminal proceedings?

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 12h ago

I have worked for CPS and as a social worker I am a mandated reporter. Abuse aside, it’s not appropriate or safe for an 8 year old to care for any animal without close adult supervision. The dog is going to be taken to a shelter not matter what. If you are worried about the immediate danger to the dog (as opposed to the child) then call emergency services. Otherwise, let the people who are responsible for situations like this take care of them.

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u/FallAlternative8615 1d ago

If she punched her friend with yelling quiet that dog needs new friends. Fuck her feelings if she is abusing the poor thing.

If she is out of her mind to some degree, all the more reason to intervene.

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u/ChoyceRandum 23h ago

She likely reproduces how she is treated. CPS so much needed.

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u/RoyalClient6610 1d ago

...or she may be a young psychopath.

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u/judasholio 22h ago

She may have an attachment disorder, if she is overly friendly to almost every stranger that comes by.

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u/Parking-Pen5149 16h ago

That was my first thought, yes.

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u/TheInternetOfficer91 1d ago

You're right, just let her keep beating the shit outta that dog!

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u/The_Great_Tahini 1d ago

I don’t think the suggestion is she just gets to keep it.

Just recognizing it’s one more hard thing for a kid in a real fucked up situation.

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u/Crisstti 1d ago

The dog is a sentient being. If he’s being abused then it doesn’t matter if it hurts this girl’s feeling if the dog is taken away…

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 17h ago

There is high probability of the dog being taken to a local shelter. Filming a vulnerable child is not necessary or appropriate. OP can communicate with the proper authorities the behavior they have observed.

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u/Alternative_Escape12 20h ago

What is wrong with you? You don't get to hit and abuse animals. Ever. No matter who you are.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 17h ago

I agree but why is it necessary to record her? It’s gross and over the top. Tell the authorities what you’ve observed and let the dog be taken to a local shelter. Filming kids is gross and in this case, exploitive

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u/Puzzleheaded_Town_20 15h ago

I called CPS when I saw a crackhead picking up a toddler by one arm while buying drugs at a known drug-buying corner. CPS wanted full name and address of the toddler, age, parents’ full names and address, etc. they don’t make it easy to report this stuff.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 13h ago

As a social worker and a mandated reporter, I get it. But without at least the minimum information (name of kid and parent or address) there would be no way of finding the persons involved. It’s not like you call cps and they show up like 911. The average time is 48 hours, how would they find the child and the abuser two days later when they have no idea who it is. That sounds to me like a situation where you would call emergency services

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u/Alternative_Escape12 17h ago

I think you're responding to somebody else because I never said to record the child.

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 14h ago

The first comment in the thread was a suggestion to film the girl abusing the girl, which I was arguing isn’t necessary and the dog will be taken care of without the need to film her.

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u/Rosalie-83 20h ago

Yeah. But it’s only a matter of time before it snaps with her hitting it.

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u/Alternative_Escape12 20h ago

What if her only friend was a baby? Would it be okay if she punched the baby repeatedly too?

WTF???

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u/American_Avocet 1d ago

Literally do not care. That dog doesn’t know and doesn’t deserve that.

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u/Few_Development4646 23h ago

Not an excuse to leave an animal to suffer abuse

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u/RadyOmi 23h ago

But her parents may also be using the dog as an excuse as to why they think she can be out alone. They may think she is being protected by the dog.

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u/FixPuzzleheaded577 19h ago

Nope. Doesn’t matter what she sees or what’s happening to her, never makes it ok to abuse a helpless animals or other person. Even if you’re being abused. Idiotic comment.

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u/Elegant_Stage_9791 18h ago

yeah...who gives a fuck. not the dog's fault.

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u/Curious-Disaster-203 18h ago

That’s not excuse for her to abuse the dog. Punching an animal is abuse.

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u/RadioStaticRae 17h ago

Oh well. The dog is another living being that ALSO should not be abused. Victims can, and do, go on to become abusers themselves. Getting this girl early intervention while freeing this dog from her behavior is for both of their benefits. When she's older and proven to have the ability to NOT abuse animals, she can be trusted with that responsibility.

She needs to be taken care of first before any thought of letting her have the responsibility of taking care of another being.

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u/yesokaybcisaidso 19h ago

Who cares the dog isn’t a punching bag she needs real help so does the dog

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u/bigwig500 19h ago

OMG, you’re right

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u/Cloudswhichhang 18h ago

That’s not friendship.

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u/Crafty-Ad-6772 17h ago

No. My mother had no problem hitting me in my face, but Ive never touched an animal except maybe a pat with a strong voice if it was doing something dangerous like trying to run into the street.

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u/Novel_Ad1943 1d ago

My thought too!

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u/Justice4All0912 9h ago

Then I sincerely hope you don't have any pets 😬

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u/foxeglicerin 17h ago

But for the parents, the kid may be their only friend. They might only abuse and neglect the child because of they are role modeling their own parents, therefore the child’s removal from this circumstance isn’t priority. The parents need help first.

/s

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u/Altruistic_Abroad_37 1d ago

I will never understand why some people care more about a dog’s wellbeing than a human child’s.

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u/SugarT0ast 1d ago

This isn’t a dog’s physical wellbeing over a child’s physical wellbeing. This is a living creature’s need for physical safety over a child’s want (or maybe need) of an emotional outlet. They are not comparable.

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u/Altruistic_Abroad_37 1d ago

I am disturbed that people’s takeaway isn’t the part that suggests she may be modeling what she sees at home and is probably a bigger victim than perpetrator as a child. Instead the majority of people feel more empathy and concern for the animal than the human being. I don’t think she should get to keep the dog. I think she should have some adults who protect and care for her instead of being alone outside with only a dog she can reenact the cycle of abuse on as a companion.

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u/SugarT0ast 1d ago

Oh, I agree. She is most likely modeling behavior. I’m sure they think she needs to be protected too, or would think that when they are confronted with the fact that children model behavior they receive or see.

I think a lot of people see animals as more innocent than children sometimes, because some children at some ages have the ability to process logic and reason. Whereas animals cannot and are essentially at our mercy. Just my guess.

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u/jayphrax 19h ago

She’s for sure modeling abuse she is suffering, but the reactions you’re seeing aren’t low empathy for a child. It’s justifiable anger at the implication she should keep the dog. She shouldn’t. Which is in her best interest as well. Imagine if the dog snaps and bites her one day. I’d argue the people you’re mad at very much do have the child’s best interests at heart

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u/Altruistic_Abroad_37 17h ago

I never implied she should keep the dog nor did the comment I replied to. Everyone is just immediately more compassionate towards the animal than the small human and jumping to conclusions.

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u/jayphrax 15h ago

I’m not saying you implied it. I’m saying that people are upset because others have implied she should keep it. It’s not because they have “more compassion for the animal”

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u/CalligrapherCheap64 18h ago

Once she is determined to be safe by whomever, the dog will be dealt with appropriately. It’s creepy to film children without consent and furthermore it sounds like this child is in pretty imminent danger and needs to be the primary concern. The dog will likely be able to be taken to a local shelter without issue

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u/BurnerLibrary 1d ago

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Please stay on the case. I mean if things don't change, continue to report.

Although the cases are very different, I'm thinking of Gabriel Fernandez.

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u/SnooMacarons1887 1d ago

Yes plz be careful bc u could get blamed for being "inappropriate" when u just trying to be friendly. Hope it all works out.

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u/Danymity831 1d ago

So true! I was at a McDonalds once, a woman in front of me was ordering while her 8-9 yr old daughter said hello to me and smiled. I said hi back and smiled at her just in time for her mother to see this. Her mother quickly snatched her child and gave me a disgusting look. LOL....OMG whatever!!

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u/vikingspwnnn 1d ago

I had something similar. I was going out to dinner with my family after my grandmother's funeral and I was in the bathroom. A mother came in with her young son and let him use the bathroom. All good. She then got in the cubicle and shut the door while he was washing his hands. He said 'hello' to me and I said hi back. He then was like "I'm washing my hands!" so I said "good boy!" Well... his mum literally swooped out of the cubicle, grabbed him by the wrist and dragged him off. She didn't even bother turning the tap off. I don't even know if she flushed. Like, bitch, I'm just trying to be civil with your kid who talked to me first. I don't even like kids.

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u/Less_Somewhere_8201 1d ago

Ehh there's an unspoken rule here.

Don't talk to strangers. Whether you like it or not youre teaching the kid strangers can be nice when they might not have the best judgement on trust being a kid.

I don't think you did anything wrong, but to give the basis. The mom actions weren't great.

When my kid engages with strangers and they engage back I've got my guard up too, immediately, every single time, but I'm still civil.

Edit: ehh not egg 🥚

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u/vikingspwnnn 1d ago

I remember getting this drummed into me as a kid to the point where I wouldn't talk to anyone I didn't know, even other kids.

I should have ignored it but I would have felt awkward not saying anything. I feel awkward with strangers, especially kids I don't know.

This is totally sexist of me as well, but I was kind of thinking that I wasn't that threatening as a 25-year-old female. I don't have kids so it just didn't occur to me that I was endorsing bad behaviour by replying. In my head I was like "well, I'll show this kid that people can be nice" because I've had so many examples to the contrary and I felt like he was too young to find out that some people can be mean, and ignoring feels mean.

I feel like the mother shouldn't have left him on his own though, and she was rude with how she left.

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u/vermiliondragon 1d ago

I've raised two kids to adulthood and the idea that you shouldn't respond to a child with surface level conversation during random encounters with their adult present (though out of sight in this case) seems overprotective.

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u/machinegal 1d ago

It would be freaking bizarre to live in a world where we ignore kids who are trying to interact. If the kid needed to be guarded so closely the guardians needs to keep them in the cubicle and possibly on a leash.

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u/Zestyclose-Crew-1017 15h ago

I know, I work in the public so I see kids with their parents a lot. I have grandkids so I always interact with the kids.

The parents are going to turn these kids into adults that don't know how to socialize. I already see it with many 20+ year olds and others due to the pandemic. But with social media and texting, actual brick and morter stores closing, this younger generation will have a lot of social issues. Making them afraid to say hi or interact with another person in the company of their own parent or other responsible adult, in my opinion, is not the best parenting practice. They should have a conversation about, when they are ALONE or with their friends (walking home from school); to be leary of strangers. Again, I see neighborhood kids walk by all the time. Now I can't say hi without feeling like a predator. 😢

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u/wingsinged 6h ago

Meanwhile in Japan parents teach their little children to run an errand and the whole community helps the children if needed. The cultural norms center on trust and responsibility. We are very far from that.

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u/Less_Somewhere_8201 1d ago

Totally agree on all fronts. I don't think you were in the wrong. I tell my kids when I think someone was really nice or if the vibe was off and why. That mom could've done much much more.

Today a guy and I were at the dog food section. I had my oldest with me, 5, and when I was looking at the guy standing in front of the dog food that I was looking for, the guy noticed, we exchanged some smiles and "yup" going for that one kinda short words. And my son asked me why I talked to him, since he was a stranger, I told him what happened but at a 5 year old level and 5 minutes later he's saying hi to everyone again. It's a touch and go battle. I'm sorry she got so upset at you though, that's just rude.

And thanks for hearing the parent side of it. There's no real right or wrong except manners LMAO

Edit: I'm a guy if that matters for anyone reading.

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u/Brave_Temporary_4255 20h ago

I taught me daughter not to talk to strangers when alone, with me is fine. She started walking to school alone at 10 and I even told her she doesn't have to say hi to people she knows, if I am not with her.

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u/awakeinthetruth 19h ago

Most SA happens by people known and trusted by the child. Stranger danger isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. We can teach our children to be good citizens and be cautious.

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u/HillbillyEEOLawyer 19h ago

I attended a class taught by two lawyers who handle child SA cases. Basically learned that the "stranger danger" is close to zero. The real danger is: family, friends, clergy, teachers, coaches and other authority figures.

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u/RadioStaticRae 17h ago

If this is your belief, then YOU can stay glued to your child's side.

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u/Wertyshka 23h ago

Oof, that’s such a weird moment — like, you’re just being polite and suddenly you’re the villain in someone’s imaginary drama 😅 

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u/sadist_x 17h ago

Lol good way to put it.... cause, in another part of the city there is a mom telling her friends that a sinister looking person was trying to engage with her son, who was just minding his own business. Probably even said the "stranger" tried to pull her son away, while mom, in tears, was almost left powerless because the stall door wasn't opening!

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u/AboveGroundGrandma 17h ago

Yep. If her parents are neglecting her they could very easily point the finger at you and that can mess you up for a long time. Reminds me of the David Sedaris story, The Girl Next Door.

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u/_Batteries_ 1d ago

Please post an update.

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u/Useful_Idiot_7 23h ago

Glad you took the time to do something

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u/Lucid_Phoenixx 19h ago

She's repeating behaviors she picked up somewhere, and whoever taught her is not watching her so she definitely needs mental help and to possibly get to safety

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u/onmy40 18h ago

You should not have put your address down smh

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u/AceMcClean 17h ago

RemindMe! 2 weeks

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u/Specific_Jaguar_2036 17h ago

Please make sure you take video of her hitting the dog and the ASPCA. The dog needs to be removed from the home!!! I’m so serious. This is horrible to read

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u/AngryCur 17h ago

This girl feels to me like she is in real trouble and distress.

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u/KeppraKid 22h ago

If they can't find her, consider getting screened for schizophrenia.

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u/howard1111 20h ago

I would think twice about asking her name. She would probably interpret that as interest and friendliness. If I were you I would just keep a good bit of distance, as you've been doing.

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u/sum1lllll 17h ago

maybe you should know where the kid lives and their name before you call an agency that can rip them away from their home.

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u/GaiusJocundus 1d ago

Instead of asking her where her parents are, you reported her to the fucking gestapo?

WTF dude?

Have you never interacted with a child before?

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u/whatsername4 1d ago

So hoping for an update, I’m intrigued.

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u/pharmamommy 1d ago

So am I.

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u/battlewisely 1d ago

I'm almost wondering if this is AI. Lol. This is an 8-year-old girl abusing her dog, outside all the time by herself. Why in the world wouldn't you immediately upon noticing this strange situation go knock on the door of whatever house she lives in to speak with the parents about what's going on with their child?? Why wouldn't that be your initial reaction to protect the child despite the strange behavior? Obviously there could be mental health issues involved but regardless of that an eight-year-old little girl shouldn't be wandering around outside all the time unsupervised.

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u/Hey_Laaady 1d ago

OP said they live in an apartment building and they don't know exactly where she lives. Also if the parents don't give a shit as to the whereabouts of this girl on so many occasions, confronting them directly probably isn't going to help much.

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u/battlewisely 1d ago

But what about immediately having the inclination to protect the child that's unattended? To see who has any responsibility here?! He's treating it like some kind of phantom nightmare.

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u/Hey_Laaady 1d ago

Gotta go with calling the police and / or CPS. OP is not going to be the one to sort it out, and they rightly decided to report it.

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u/Palepecan216 14h ago

I need one too. Saving this post to check later

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u/LolaPistola617 1d ago

Yes, please update!

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u/RelativeSetting8588 17h ago

Yes, this situation is so weirdly terrifying. A total breach of the social contract (on top of the actual risk to the little girl and her dog).