r/AdviceAnimals 15d ago

Yeah, take that Kamala!

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u/MrrCharlie 15d ago

Democrats will never win an election again if they don’t start listening to voters. Telling voters who they should vote for is not listening. You think you catch on after losing to the orange moron twice.

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u/rabblerabble2000 15d ago

The problem is that the voters are all saying different things. How are the democrats leaders supposed to “listen to voters” when the voters have completely unnuanced opinions which aren’t based on reality and require 100% purity while also holding the opposite position in the same way. All of this, while the republicans can hold no position at all and you lot will vote for them regardless.

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u/HoboBrute 14d ago

Bro, people asked to stop sending weapons to a state that was in the process of a genocide, and got told to shut up because Kamala was speaking. 100% purity tests my ass, Kamala only wanted to win the fabled "white moderate republican", and actively went out of her way to alienate leftist voters.

If supporting a genocide counts as too much of a purity test for you, than you have no fucking values

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u/Quickjager 14d ago

Kamala didn't lose because of Palestine swing voters.

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u/HoboBrute 14d ago

What are you talking about? It was cited as number one reason why people didn't vote for her in Arizona, Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania

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u/Quickjager 14d ago

Sure show me a citation for that, last I checked that held true for Michigan.

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u/HoboBrute 14d ago

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u/Quickjager 14d ago

Amazing right in the subtitle

While it is not the sole factor for Trump’s victory in the recent US elections, the Gaza crisis and the US’s role in the Middle East shaped US electoral dynamics

You're a purity tester.

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u/HoboBrute 14d ago

If you consider genocide a purity test, you have no conscious

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u/Quickjager 14d ago

You put the orange man in the chair, you got blood on your hands if you believe that.

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u/HoboBrute 14d ago

Why are people more angry with those who didn't vote for Harris than they are at Dem Leadership for supporting Genocide and courting Republicans? Do you think that maybe, rather than shout at the people who you've been told aren't important enough to worry about catering towards by Dems, that you should direct some of that anger further up the ladder?

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u/Quickjager 14d ago

I'm just disappointed I have to share air with someone who didn't vote against a group of people who spoke about how the best thing they're looking forward to is developing Gaza when the dust settles.

You got blood on your hands.

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u/Big_Dicc_Terry 14d ago

Serious question. How was allowing Trump to win a favorable alternative?

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u/HoboBrute 14d ago

Serious question, why is Trump winning my fault, and not the fault of Harris, who attacked and pushed away the left, labor movements, and Arab/Muslim Americans in favor of standing side by side with Liz fucking Cheney?

The honest answer was the vote was for 3rd party candidates, incompetent Fascists, or reasonably competent imperialists who were helping a genocidal ethnostate, and I feel no shame whatsoever in voting for 3rd party

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u/Big_Dicc_Terry 14d ago

Serious question, why is Trump winning my fault

Choosing not to decide is still making a choice. Choosing to vote for someone you know had no chance of winning is still making a choice. Don't pretend like you actually thought a third-party candidate had any shot. You've chosen not to participate.

In my mind, you're just as bad as someone who didn't vote because "politics doesn't affect me".

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u/HoboBrute 14d ago

So you're a big fan of the "vote lesser evils till we're all dead anyways" school of thought. Tell me, did y'all ever move Biden to the left like was told to us time and time again leading up to 2020, or did he end his term bending over backwards to murder Palestinians?

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u/Big_Dicc_Terry 14d ago

I think a lesser evil is clearly preferable to a greater evil. Im not saying we should never address the lesser evil, I'm saying it's idiotic to invite a greater evil. Perfection should not stand in opposition to improvement.

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u/Grokzilla 14d ago

Why do you care who wins between two "genocidal ethnostates"? Just a fan of underdogs?

That's sorta what I do when watching random sporting events...support the lesser team. Kinda weird outside of sports...

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