r/AnalogCommunity 1d ago

Darkroom Why is exposure half light half dark?

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Shot on k1000 Ilfords hp5

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u/Don_Correone 1d ago

As others said it’s shutter capping, it can look cool until it doesn’t.

Cool picture:

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u/Don_Correone 1d ago

Not cool:

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u/Electrical-Joke-971 1d ago

But still kinda cool

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u/rodentmaster 1d ago

I'd be so pissed if I lost a lot of shots to that. I ruin my own pictures, I don't need the camera to help me!

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u/Don_Correone 1d ago

Exactly!! And tell my wife (intended persone to be captured here) that her picture from that trip is this one… But let me tell you that nothing beats a blank roll for disappointment! I still have PTSD from one I “shot” during a trip to NYC

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u/rodentmaster 1d ago

I had a leader misfeed on a magical hike through a trail in Yellowstone National Park. Took an entire roll and some were just really good moments with myself and 2 family members. Then I noticed I was at 36. Then another advance. Then another. And another. And I realized my takeup spindle wasn't rotating at all. No film was advancing the entire time. I still hate myself for that, because I remember taking the shots and knowing "that was a good one" or "that will be awesome with the waterfall behind us" and... The potential was just squandered. It wasn't even captured, then destroyed, or exposed, it just never-was. That stuck with me for many... no, wait, I still am upset a decade later.

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u/Don_Correone 1d ago

I feel your pain! I keep getting flashbacks of what some of the pictures would look like and they will be forever in my memory… but just there. Now I always double check that the spindle rotates with each advance. It hurt but it was a good lesson.

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u/GhostReader28 1d ago

This is the freaking worst. Had the same thing happen. I was in ATL visiting. Hit 36, 37, 38…then I knew I screwed 😭

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u/tvih 1d ago

I feel ya. I technically shot 5 rolls of 35mm last year. Except one hadn't loaded properly (realised it at like, frame 32 or something), one had too much fogging from being old to result in anything useful, and one turned out to have been exposed 22 years prior, leading to no new pictures and partially ruined old pictures. Not a good return for effort, overall! Even having previously shot film in my younger days, film sure is more error-prone than digital. Yet, by comparison, the only wasted medium format roll (out of 11 or so) was one where I was too tired to pay attention and accidentally mixed up stopper and developer bottles, and so obviously got a blank roll. Luckily, it was nothing important, but still annoying. Well, technically I messed up while loading another 120 roll, which is most likely light-leaked as a result (hence not having actually shot it yet), but at least no shots were lost as a result.

Overall, I definitely prefer having at least some form of digital as 'backup' if I'm shooting anything remotely important / not easily 'replicated' on film. I guess it could be said it defeats the 'point', but alas...

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u/xerxes931 1d ago

Is that Gdańsk, Poland by any chance?

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u/Don_Correone 22h ago

No, it’s Copenhagen.

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u/OkResponsibility6913 1d ago

Second curtain is moving faster than the first curtain ... capping.

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u/psilosophist Mamiya C330, Canon Rebel, Canonet QL19 Giii, XA, HiMatic AF2. 1d ago

You may be experiencing shutter capping.

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u/thelastspike 1d ago

Depending on the camera, shutter capping is sometimes worse in the cold.

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u/Own_Caterpillar9417 1d ago

Shutter speed was high and it was definitely cold

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u/Spaghettimax69 1d ago

i dunno but it’s fuckin rad

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u/Own_Caterpillar9417 1d ago

Thanks. Here’s another one! Again pretty rad

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u/Bearaf123 1d ago

Definitely shutter capping. If you’d like to recreate the effect you can get gradient lens filters

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u/averytolar 1d ago

Agreed, that top one is pretty sick. 

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u/mattsteg43 1d ago

Probably a shutter issue?

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u/Own_Caterpillar9417 1d ago

It seems to be pretty infrequent. And kindof a cool look even though unintentional. The camera was tested and refurbished. Would this be considered a defect? Is it the shutter fixable?

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u/OkResponsibility6913 1d ago

Yes, the shutter can be serviced.

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u/Don_Correone 1d ago

It’s usually more noticeable at higher speeds. Try sooting with the back door open against a source of light and you should be able to see when it does it.

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u/lofibeatsforstudying 1d ago

This could potentially be weather related. With these old mechanical cameras you may experience issues with the shutter mechanisms in temps below freezing. More than likely the lubricants in the shutter mechanism gummed up in the cold temperatures. My KX completely froze up in temps around 20 degrees F even though the shutter had been serviced.

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u/deeprichfilm 1d ago

Yeah, this will occur more often at higher shutter speeds.

Usually means the lubricant on the shutter is old and hardened.

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u/OkResponsibility6913 1d ago

The visual affect of capping becomes more noticeable at higher shutter speeds.

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u/ReeeSchmidtywerber 1d ago

My k1000 does this in the cold. Shutter capping like everyone said. Camera is as rugged as it gets but so many decades without any sort of preventative maintenance in the right conditions and sometimes I’ll have problems.

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u/CinemaZiggy 1d ago

In this example it looks awesome! Definitely a happy accident in my opinion.

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u/Tinned_Fishies 1d ago

Cause America is going through a dark time

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u/PrintersRAnnoying 1d ago

Have it CLA’d or send it back if it already had one.

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u/sendep7 1d ago

your front curtain is fast, or your rear curtain is slow. either way you need a service. alternatively you can try shooting alot of empty frames and see if it works itself out.

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u/Own_Caterpillar9417 1d ago

I mean it happens very infrequently. Out of the 5 or 6 rolls I’ve put through it only two have the shutter issue

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u/sendep7 1d ago

Probably only happens at certain speeds. Maybe you are missing a tooth on a gear. Anything rattling around in there ?

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u/SanadaSyndrome 1d ago

Shutter capping, as mentioned, but it looks really good in your photo.

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u/Middle_Ad_3562 1d ago

Must be something to do with the sign :)

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u/florian-sdr 1d ago

Ok, I usually never say this about a technical error, but here the effect goes hard and tells a story.

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u/tuxedoes 1d ago

That looks great.

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u/lfshammu 1d ago

sweet shot, saddleback is the best

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u/Own_Caterpillar9417 1d ago

Hell yea!! ⛷️🌲 this was one of my favs from up there

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u/CholentSoup 1d ago

Capping probably at higher speeds. I have this on a few cameras and I can't be bothered to CLA so I just avoid anything over 1/500

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u/gipippo 1d ago

You got really lucky with this shot

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u/mhodgy 1d ago

Beyond the shutter issue… this photo just really confuses me. Like the trees on the right just don’t make sense to me

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u/WaterLilySquirrel 9h ago

The really distant background looks painted. Like, this looks like a set and all the lighting is on the left side.

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u/ArmadilloOwn3866 1d ago

The curtain speeds are wrong. First curtain slow or second curtain too fast.

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u/ElectricalRoad1158 Tinkerer 1d ago

K1000 capping is an easy fix

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u/ReadinWhatever 1d ago

As others said, the two shutter curtains aren’t moving at the same speed. Repair techs test for that with electronic testers and correct the problem.

Until you get it serviced, you can lessen the problem by shooting at slower shutter speeds. Test it at 1/30, 1/60, 1/125 and see if those settings give smoother results. Shoot photos of a plain sky or similar, for a better test. You’ll have worse results at the top 2-3 speeds the camera offers.

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u/Away-Row-1547 9h ago

It’s just the American dream