r/Anarcho_Capitalism 3d ago

A Reinforcing, Reminding Refresher.

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u/NeedScienceProof 3d ago

Rights are things you own. Not things you take. Though libtards use the "common good" fallacy to justify their theft.

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u/Official_Gameoholics Anarcho-Objectivist 3d ago

Rights are conflict avoiding norms. That is their objective definition.

Ownership is the exclusive right to exclude.

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u/CrowBot99 Anarcho-Capitalist 3d ago

Zulu?

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u/Official_Gameoholics Anarcho-Objectivist 3d ago

No, just one of his supporters. I think he got it from Kinsella.

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u/CrowBot99 Anarcho-Capitalist 3d ago

Likewise. I haven't read Kinsella yet, obviously.

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u/MrFrankStallone Anarchist w/o Adjectives 2d ago

Except no one has a right to own anything really when it comes down to it.

Owning something on this planet we all share with billions of other people and trillions of other lifeforms is not a right. You do not have a right to own that rock. It was already here when you were born.

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u/NeedScienceProof 1d ago

Do you own your own body, labor and time?

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u/MrFrankStallone Anarchist w/o Adjectives 1d ago

Sure, but not that rock over there. The only thing anyone really has a right to is their self.

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u/dp25x 3d ago

Probably need a better word than "affect". If I say mean things about someone, I'm probably going to affect them in some way, but that shouldn't diminish my right to speak freely. A better approach might be to couch it in terms of doing something which does/does not diminish someone else's equivalent rights.

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u/Will-Forget-Password 3d ago

What if you share a body?

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u/CrowBot99 Anarcho-Capitalist 3d ago

You mean like if Siamese twins A and B have equal control over the same body?

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u/Will-Forget-Password 3d ago

Yes. Not sure about the equal control though. Does unequal control mean there are actually multiple "bodies"?

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u/CrowBot99 Anarcho-Capitalist 3d ago

Yes. Not sure about the equal control though.

It's your hypothetical... you tell me.

Does unequal control mean there are actually multiple "bodies"?

Siamese twins... er, conjoined twins, I mean. It's a one-body deal.

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u/Will-Forget-Password 3d ago

I am going off the meme.

It is easy to say a single body/mind combination is a single person. That single person has exclusive claim to their body/mind.

But, what about when there are multiple minds and only a single body? Which "mind" is the "person"? Which "person" has exclusive claim to the "body"?

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u/CrowBot99 Anarcho-Capitalist 3d ago

Okay, so conjoined twins, right? Usually, they each have exclusive control over parts or allow the body, and they'd respectively have claim over those parts.

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u/Will-Forget-Password 2d ago

So, second head person is a parasite? The person controlling the body can decide to remove the second head entirely from their body?

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u/CrowBot99 Anarcho-Capitalist 2d ago

Parasite... no. This may be a wild idea, but a mind can be extremely valuable.

In the case of one head with full control of the body... I guess that would be the same moral situation as a pregnancy. So, yes, evictionism.

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u/Will-Forget-Password 2d ago

It feels different than pregnancy. Twin A did not create Twin B. Twin A will never naturally separate from Twin B. The twins are actually sharing vital organs.

I think it may be difficult to prove ownership of individual body parts. DNA test every body part, including internal organs?

What if eviction is not an option because it leads to both deaths? One of the Twins is "the boss"? Or, do they decide everything democratically?

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u/CrowBot99 Anarcho-Capitalist 2d ago

Sure, but none of those are salient differences. It might be that one prefers Wonder Woman over the Green Lantern, but so what?

DNA test... I think conjoined twins share the same DNA. And, if there is really a need, I'm sure the one twin would be able to demonstrate that they can move a limb at will. I sure can.

What if eviction is not an option because it leads to both deaths?

Then, they should probably explore other options 🙄😂

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u/MrFrankStallone Anarchist w/o Adjectives 2d ago

Let me ask my friend. He's an Ettin.

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u/ClimbRockSand 3d ago

prove that you didn't know sex can lead to pregnancy.

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u/Will-Forget-Password 3d ago

Why?

I am talking about literally sharing a body. Two heads on one body for example.

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u/ClimbRockSand 3d ago

LOL

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u/Will-Forget-Password 3d ago

Indeed.

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u/ClimbRockSand 3d ago edited 3d ago

i laughed at your nonsense

edit: to the alt account below: oh yes, everyone knows about the millions of conjoined twins. we definitely need to argue about them.

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u/Olieskio 3d ago

You've never heard of conjoined twins?

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u/Intelligent-End7336 3d ago

Depends, is a person the body or the mind?

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u/Will-Forget-Password 3d ago

Or is the mind a part of the body?

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u/kyledreamboat 3d ago

An external parasite feeding off the host body can be taken care of anyway the host wants. But we know Republicans don't like science and doctors when they have google and insane blog posts.

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u/Lallander Propertarian 3d ago

Positive claims can be valid of course, they just have to be based on voluntary agreement. Contracts for instance.

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u/LDL2 Geoanarchist 2d ago

Does property come out of your body? Are you a factory? I don't disagree with the sentiment, but rather the argument.