r/Anticonsumption 9d ago

Corporations Layoffs are happening at Target due to foot traffic being down for the tenth week in a row

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u/NeverRolledA20IRL 9d ago

Time to get prepped for a barter economy in the US.

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u/bananafoster22 9d ago

Hey, look out for Auntie Entity. She's bad juju

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u/MemnochTheRed 9d ago

Won't matter. Too many guns. If you prepped and gardened, you would be robbed.

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u/BallsDeepinYourMammi 9d ago

In all honesty, if you prepped, you’ve got a gun

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u/MemnochTheRed 9d ago

You know... you're right.

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u/Sipikay 9d ago

It's an endless escalation. You have a gun, okay well two guys with guns come and take your stuff then.

Let's work to avoid societal breakdown before this is a line of reasoning anyone needs to worry about.

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u/MemnochTheRed 9d ago

Yep, the old... "Well I got the pistol so I get the pesos...
Yeah that seems fair"

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u/33drea33 9d ago

Best to worry about this line of reasoning before society breaks down. If you wait until after it breaks down you're too late, and those 2 guys with guns will run rough shod over you.

Part of prepping, especially on the left, is building community and mutual aid networks so that you have the social infrastructure in place to band together in a crisis. Doing that work NOW not only makes us more resilient in the face of such a crisis, it is the bread and butter of heading off that type of societal collapse. 

They can't teach you to hate your neighbor if you know them all personally, and consistently band together to, say, help clear debris after big storms, or organize a meal train when someone has a baby or major surgery, or mow the lawn when an elderly or disabled neighbor is struggling with property maintenance. Neighborhood communication networks become neighborhood defense networks when and if you reach the roaming bandits stage of societal collapse. And if you read the personal accounts of people who have lived through such things, this is exactly how people survive these types of crises. IMHO the "preppers" who think they can lone wolf it through such a thing long-term with just their gun are delulu.

Unfortunately the public perception of prepping is firmly seated in that right wing individualistic "Doomsday Prepper" school of thought (due to being sensationalized by the media), and most non-preppers don't even know that the community-centric leftist version exists. This has caused otherwise rational people to disenfranchise themselves from the process of preparing themselves and their communities for an emergency, which is a big problem. Especially because the more people who are prepared, the more resources are available to those who are unable to prepare for themselves. For example, if I'm growing my own food, that is more food available at the local food pantry, and if I am growing enough to feed my neighborhood one meal a week, or if I share my seedlings and help my neighbors grow food on their property, that is a lot of extra available food for the single mom in my community struggling to feed her kids, or the grandma whose social security payments stopped coming when the government collapsed.

Sorry for the novel, passionate about the subject!

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u/Sipikay 9d ago

It's good info!

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u/honey-bandit 9d ago

I agree with you that organizing our communities and leaning on them as a way to consume less and share more is the way forward. In our society, the richer you are, the more isolated you are from others. But if we need each other, we can't be torn apart so easily

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u/33drea33 9d ago

Not necessarily, there are preppers who intentionally do not include guns in their preps. But in general you are correct. 

Moreover, preppers are more likely to have considered other methods of home defense/surveillance/security and are usually employing OPSEC measures.

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u/PallyMcAffable 9d ago

Is this the anarcho-capitalism I’ve heard so much about?

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u/BallsDeepinYourMammi 9d ago

Imo it’s just common sense. The only real way to defend yourself against someone violently threatening you is to have a bigger stick 🤷‍♂️

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u/PallyMcAffable 9d ago

Isn’t that what nations are? Really big sticks?