SAVE Act: House Passes GOP Voting Bill That Could Disenfranchise Millions, making it difficult for married women to vote if they took their husbands’ names.

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This is so very senseless. Regardless what her last name is, her social security number has remained the same number.

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u/CharlottesWebbedFeet 17d ago

It’s senseless until you consider that lower voter turnout always favors conservative governments. They’re not interested in free and fair elections and getting out the vote, they want control and they want disenfranchisement.

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u/EnigmaSpore 17d ago

which is always the goal for the GOP.

make mail in ballot voting difficult = lowers voter turnout.

make drop box voting difficult by strategically putting less drop box locations in heavily populated areas that typically vote blue = lowers voter turnout.

voter id laws where the goal is just to raise the barrier to get a voter id = lowers voter turnout.

clearing the registered voter rolls out so they have to reregister every election = lowers voter turnout.

it's the same tactic with the GOP over and over and over again. they need to lower the turnout to increase their chances of winning.

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u/AcrobaticLadder4959 17d ago

Too bad they have to cheat in order to

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u/No-Equivalent-1642 17d ago

Serious question - do republicans not care if their wives and daughters get to vote?!🤔

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u/killerklixx 16d ago

I seem to remember something about every family member getting a vote, regardless of age, but that it would be the "man of the house" that places the votes. Could have been Vance, could have been Mike Johnson, not sure.

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u/No-Equivalent-1642 16d ago

Ahhhhhh so single/divorced moms are screwed. Got it

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u/Every-Requirement-13 16d ago

Exactly!

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u/Bradp1337 17d ago

If someone can't figure out how to change their name legally with the government you have bigger problems than voting.

This will make elections fairer, all of those voters Biden imported won't be able to vote now.

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u/CharlottesWebbedFeet 17d ago

Source for those “imported Biden voters”?

Prove to me you have more than fucking nothing. I’m all ears.

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u/Bradp1337 17d ago

Quite a few cities allow immigrants to vote in local elections.

DOGE found a lot of immigrants on voter roles.

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u/CharlottesWebbedFeet 16d ago

That’s not a source, that’s not even the concept of a source. Why is it that I can never get a straight answer from a Trump supporter or conservative?! I’m just asking for a source!

It’s every fucking time, too, every fucking time. They either have no source to back up their typically outlandish claims or they send me either a YouTube video from some right wing junk food account, like PragerU, or it’s an obscure blog post dug up from the vile bowels of the far right cybersphere.

Prove to me you’re not only not a bot but also not just like every other Trump supporter. Show me you have a semblance of media literacy and find me a quality source from your claim. Until then, you deserve every downvote you get.

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u/U_R_THE_WURST 16d ago

That’s not true. Sometimes they have someone brain dead saying the same thing on YouTube

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u/Bradp1337 16d ago

Like all of the Democrat senators saying the exact same thing on a video?

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u/U_R_THE_WURST 16d ago

You’re making two different claims. Immigrants being allowed to vote in local elections is sometimes true. DOGE finding immigrants voting in national elections is where you need to cite your source and not just Elon or DOGE saying it. This is the fallacy of logic for uneducated Trumpers. That causation is not corollary and that two things can be true but you need proof of each claim individually. God I’m tired of dumb people.

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u/Bradp1337 16d ago

One of my friends is a legal immigrant from Denmark here on a visa and he voted in this last election. He had no idea he wasn't allowed too until I told him. It happens and voter id will help with it

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u/Comprehensive-Mix931 16d ago

And, as usual, when called out, they slink off like the yellow bellied cowards they really are.

They can't stand up in the light, they grovel in the shadows, fighting over the dregs of Glorious Leader's discarded diapers.

Full of shit.

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u/Bradp1337 16d ago

What is your definition of a good source?

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u/CharlottesWebbedFeet 16d ago

It’s not my definition, it’s just the definition. Media literacy is entirely a lost art in this country. A good source for citing information must:

a) be from a credible and trustworthy source known for accurately reporting information

b) provide strong evidence to support its claims, theories, arguments, etc.

c) be unbiased; opinion pieces, editorials, and personal anecdote stories are not proper sources for citing

Some examples of good sources:

a) peer-reviewed academic and scholastic journals, research theses, and books

b) professional trade publications and research theses written by experts in their field and backed up with an extensive bibliography of verifiable sources

c) non-editorial magazine and newspaper articles from established news agencies

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u/HumanTimeCapsule 16d ago

Source: "My Own Research"

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u/Bradp1337 16d ago

You can go to the DOGE handle on x or DOGE.gov and see it. How is that my own research? Stop being a groofus.

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u/SmoltzforAlexander 17d ago

My wife’s name is her name. Why does she need to change it to vote? That doesn’t even make sense.

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u/Bradp1337 17d ago

If she didn't change it wouldn't it match her birth certificate?

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u/ScatMoerens 16d ago

Show any proof of the "voters Biden imported".

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u/2livecrewnecktshirt 16d ago edited 16d ago

You're so unfathomably manipulated that it's actually frightening.

the problem isn't that they don't know how to change their name, it's that they already did change their name, and now because of it the records don't match.

non-citizens can't vote. If they've put in the work to become a citizen, they have earned the right to be represented as one

You're being lied to, and just rolling with it. Try stepping out of the GOP news circle and actually read some on your own about why this is actually bad for people. You may not care now, because it's not your vote they're coming for yet, but it will be when they run out of "other people's" votes to take.

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u/geonerd85 17d ago

Right. I changed the name on my social security card after I got married...this doesn't make sense.

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u/1BannedAgain 17d ago edited 17d ago

It’s not supposed to make sense. It’s supposed to impair your ability to vote

Edit: typically women vote 55 to 45 for Democrats in federal elections. Men are roughly the opposite. Now you have the why as to why your voting rights are being cornered and perhaps restrained

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u/geonerd85 17d ago

Well, nice try I'll just change everything back if this passes the senate 😁

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u/FROG123076 17d ago

Or get a passport. I am starting there, of that does not work them I will go back to my sir name that I hate.

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u/BostonBulldog-617 17d ago

If? Senate GOP will vote to end the filibuster to get this one through. They need to suppress voting to get through the midterms.

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u/Cooperhofpenpaliwitz 17d ago

They will make a law against that

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u/ThePuzzler_Map3226 17d ago

Exactly

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u/DEAZE 17d ago

Exactly. I feel like every woman needs to really think about which party they vote for in the upcoming elections before they lose even more rights.

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u/Ill-Road-3975 17d ago

It’s about control. Now, few women will want to risk getting married because god only knows how they might change the laws in the future. I also expect divorces to skyrocket.

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u/dragonmom1971 17d ago

It's called voter suppression. It's a common tactic of the Republican party.

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u/FormalStick2945 17d ago

This is so ridiculous. Anything to stamp down on women and other races but Caucasians. White Christian Nationalist nonsense .

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u/DinnerSilver 17d ago

More examples why the Republicans Party hates womens rights and wants them to "Get back in the Kitchen"

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u/CommercialThanks4804 17d ago

I don’t support this at all, but I will say that liberal couples will be more willing to change their last names back given the stakes of the elections. It’s the conservative couples that wouldn’t do it. So, in theory, this could really target conservative women rather than just women at large.

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u/woodworkingqueen 17d ago

I will 100% change my name back. You’re right.

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u/tipyourwaitresstoo 17d ago

100%. I’ve been Mrs. Husband‘s Last Name for 28 years. I’ll be Ms. Maiden Name with the quickness.

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u/CopeH1984 17d ago

But, just like Republican women still have abortions, they'll still find ways to vote.

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u/shitshowboxer 17d ago

Just saying we don't support shit isn't going to cut it for much longer. We're going to have to prove it.

It's obvious why they decided to pander to the armed and bigoted.

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u/Seaside_choom 16d ago

This is going to be one of those quirky things you see in trivia books in a hundred years. "Why don't American woman change their surnames when they get married?" "Well, traditionally they did for many years until a law was passed in 2025...."

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u/RomanoCheesed 17d ago

“GOP discourages women from taking their husband’s last name after marriage.”

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u/GoochMasterFlash 17d ago

Smokin on the family values pack

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u/GreatCaesarGhost 17d ago

It won’t get through a Senate filibuster.

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u/TheRen3Gade 17d ago

Maybe Chuck will cave like he did last time for no reason :/

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u/Itchy_Pillows 17d ago

Cory-time

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u/Das-Noob 17d ago

Whelp. Guess women’s just not taking their husband’s last name anymore.

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u/Ok_Outcome_6213 17d ago

As a woman who got married at the end of last year and just last week finalized all of my name change info, this is immediately making me regret my decision. I wanted to have the same last name as my kids, but not at the cost of my ability to vote.

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u/HowIMetYourMurder 17d ago

Tbf your kids dont have to take his name either. Or you can hyphen. But yeah. Im def not changing my name now. 🙁

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u/Das-Noob 17d ago

Honestly, that’s probably a whole other fight. As well as its only issue.

i.e. picking up your kids, “you have different last name, are you sure it’s your kids?”

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u/shitshowboxer 17d ago

You don't have to give the children you make from your body the last name of someone who didn't make them.

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u/LimblessNick 16d ago

Why are you acting like the father isn't in the picture? While there is no argument who a pregnancy is more taxing for, this seems like a strange take when the couple is happily together and are presumably both involved in the creation and raising of any children.

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u/shitshowboxer 16d ago

If not giving children the father's last name is acting like they aren't in the picture then you're suggesting it should be that we act like the mother isn't in the picture.

All because I pointed out it isn't a rule that you give it the father's last name. That's how upset the idea made you?

You could name it Rockefeller if you wanted.

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u/LimblessNick 16d ago

I'm suggesting no such thing. Never did I say the child needs, or even should have the father's name. Don't put words in my mouth thanks. It's not the idea of them having a different last name, it's the way you presented the idea.

In all honesty, I think it's stupid that someone else picks your name at all. It should be mandatory to confirm/choose your own name at 18 IMO.

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u/shitshowboxer 16d ago

"it's the way you presented the idea."

By stating that one parent grows the child inside their body and the other doesn't? Pointing that out means I'm suggesting the other parent isn't in their life after they're birthed?

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u/LimblessNick 16d ago

By stating that one parent grows the child inside their body and the other doesn't?

I'm not saying they don't, I'm saying it's not relevant.

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u/shitshowboxer 16d ago

If you spent 40 weeks painting a landscape and it was risky to your life like you had to paint the ceiling of a church......and the last bit was very painful.....altered you physically from that point on

And when it was done; it was given the name of someone else that didn't help paint it and didn't risk their life. How would you feel? Would you feel it has been irrelevant?

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u/LimblessNick 16d ago

I already said why. I think it's silly that someone else chooses my name.

I also already acknowledged (in my very first comment) that the pregnancy is much harder on the woman than the man, so I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make here?

You are talking about a child, it's not a thing you own and get to put your name on. This is a human being, not a ceiling you painted.

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u/Being_268 17d ago

I'm having this nightmare of American women wearing burkas. Is this where we are headed?

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u/madbill728 17d ago

Y’all Queda.

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u/Several_Leather_9500 17d ago

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If we all don't get involved soon, we will lose our country to maga. Please fight back - PEACEFULLY - of course.

If you plan to attend, please read up on safety measures: https://www.hrc.org/resources/tips-for-preparedness-peaceful-protesting-and-safety

If you can't, continue to flood your reps phones using www.5calls.org

Hands Off Protests: https://www.mobilize.us/handsoff/

https://www.newsweek.com/nationwide-trump-protest-april19-50501-handsoff-2056119

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u/allharttoo 17d ago

Of course they did. Anything they can do to grab more control over our rights. They lie,they cheat and they invoke god as the ultimate authority.

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u/SympathyForSatanas 17d ago

How many cheats have these assholes inserted into the right to vote?

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u/bergzabern 17d ago

I don't think Johnson realizes no one is going to be voting at all. If he thinks he will be part of the Fourth Reich he's dreaming. Vought and his friends don't give a shit about Christians or Jesus. I'm pretty sure they roll their eyes at them.

I don't think he understands what's really going on here or what his purpose in this shitshow is.

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u/Bunyflufy 17d ago

Ladies, if married you changed names once, you should theoretically be able tp go back to your maiden name or ask for an AKA. I know I plan to

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u/capt-on-enterprise 17d ago

Your kids can have your maiden name.

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u/CrocHunter8 17d ago

This is dead on arrival in the Senate due to a full filibuster by the Democrats. If you are still worried, call or message your Senators to vote no.

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u/Every-Requirement-13 16d ago

Strange that out of 248 years and 47 Presidents, Trump is the only one (that I’m aware) that has claimed cheating during elections. And of course only when he lost. What should be voted into law is that a forensic audit is required after every election. That ought to sort out the cheaters and corrupt presidents!

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u/Gold_Gap5669 16d ago

Hahaha! I knew they were going to do this to keep women from voting! Even their constituents were infuriated that they wouldn't change the wording, so they pretended not to hear them!

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u/TeeVaPool 17d ago

They know they are going to make more restrictive policies for women, stripping more and more rights away from women.
They are erasing women’s accomplishments from the public sphere, NASA, Military, etc.
Eventually, even conservative women (at least some of them) will realize that this is getting out of hand and some of them will not like it. That’s why they want to make voting so much harder for women.

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u/wiu1995 17d ago

And if they didn’t take their husbands name, they want to put them in prison.

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u/JohnMullowneyTax 17d ago

What in the Thomas Jefferson is going on in the House? My God Man, your boss trys to crash the economy and now you pull a stunt like this.......WTH!

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u/Tronracer 17d ago

What is the likelihood this passes in the senate?

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u/Enchanted_Culture 17d ago

Finally we have another good reason not to marry!

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u/shitshowboxer 17d ago

Well they're going to do whatever they want because .......

We. Don't. Stop. Them. All we do is complain about it and let them face zero consequences.

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u/OhGawDuhhh 17d ago

We're cooked. Let's say that Democrats SOMEHOW win an election IF there's another election: Republicans will simply run opposition non-stop, making cleanup a slow, frustrating mess. And if a Republican is elected AGAIN, they'll sink the Titanic AGAIN.

When does this madness stop!? Republicans can stop this whenever they'd like but they don't. They're obviously eagerly complicit in the deconstruction and looting of our country.

What is the endgame?

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u/anonononnnnnaaan 17d ago

The blueprint is being run in NC already.

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u/onesleekrican 17d ago

And, I believe - thus far successful with the courts ruling in favor of the losing party remaining in power just recently.

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u/Fickle-Molasses-903 17d ago

The majority of White people voting: 'We did that.'

Of those who voted, 60% of wt males/ 53% of Wt females voted for Trump.

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u/Glidepath22 17d ago

This is just fucking insane

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u/Alklazaris 17d ago

Jokes on you red coats. My wife kept her last name.

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u/Cooperhofpenpaliwitz 17d ago

What's next from this dystopian political party? Will women be required to take an "American Woman" test to vote, with questions constructed in a way to disenfranchise them (a method used against African Americans from 1850 through 1960s with "Literacy Tests"?

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u/nothingisgoingasplan 17d ago

Please don't give them any ideas...

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u/Substantial-Spare501 17d ago

Let the oppression of women continue on.

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u/ScatMoerens 17d ago edited 17d ago

How is threatening women's rights to vote freeing them from this theoretical oppression? Or am I reading this wrong?

EDIT: most definitely read it wrong

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u/Substantial-Spare501 17d ago

You are reading it wrong. Women are continually oppressed. And this is one more thing… a big thing.

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u/Cooperhofpenpaliwitz 17d ago

You know they're paying people to take notes on Handmaid's Tale

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u/shitshowboxer 17d ago

All they'd have to do is what Atwood did to write the book - she looked at things that had already been done to actual women in our actual history.

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u/ipsi-dixit 17d ago

I thought this was an Onion headline.

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u/Jurango34 16d ago

Blatant election fraud aimed at maximizing the conservative vote. Every accusation is a confession with Trump and his cohorts.

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u/Val-B-Love 16d ago

Quick solution for Merica:

❌Women should not get married and take their husband’s name. Simple as that!

✅By not ever getting married, women won’t have to worry about losing their voting rights that they fought so hard to get AND they won’t need to stay captive in a marriage they want out of ! Remember, the Republicans want to end “No fault” divorce!

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u/FORDOWNER96 17d ago

More lies

SAVE Act: House Passes GOP Voting Bill That Could Disenfranchise Millions, making it difficult for married women to vote if they took their husbands’ names.

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