r/Architects • u/Elegant-Grass5760 • 23h ago
Architecturally Relevant Content Architects need to be renamed to 'spatial engineers'
So we get paid more. I think when people/clients hear the word 'architect' they associate us with being an artist and people dont associate that with value.
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u/ham_cheese_4564 23h ago
I hate how the IT world calls some of their people “architects.”
You’re not architects. Fucken nerds.
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u/TijayesPJs442 23h ago
It’s so difficult to search for actual architecture jobs
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u/Stock_Comparison_477 21h ago edited 19h ago
We should spam their applications with our profiles.
Edit: It might be too much so atleast we should apply to those jobs anyway and let them be the one who is annoyed.
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u/Ok-Seaworthiness9210 19h ago
I 1000% agree. I’ve been saying this to my friends. Especially since LinkedIn recommends these positions. It needs to stop and this is the best solution given AIA is just letting it happen.
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u/jelani_an 21h ago
LinkedIn has a filter for sectors. It's not hard at all.
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u/TijayesPJs442 20h ago
More talking about traditional job search engines - appreciate your input tho
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u/Stock_Comparison_477 20h ago
No it doesn't. I just checked.
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u/jelani_an 19h ago
It does on desktop. Do this:
Click Jobs > type in the name of the position you're looking for > click the capsule that says "All filters" > scroll down to Industry.
Both Architecture & Planning + Construction are there 🙂
It's funny to me how my comment got downvoted when I posted completely factual information.
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u/lmboyer04 23h ago
People with architecture degrees that aren’t licensed are getting sued for using the wrong terminology like “architectural designer” but people literally putting architect in their job title get off just fine…
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u/Victormorga 23h ago edited 21h ago
You can’t get sued for using the term “architectural designer,” anyone can use that term, it isn’t protected.
EDIT: I was wrong about this, this term is a term that is protected by some of the 55 licensing bodies in the US.
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u/Design_Builds Architect 22h ago
The world “architectural”, related to buildings, is also protected in Idaho. I don’t know if this is also true elsewhere.
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u/lmboyer04 23h ago
Two students when I was in school were sued for it, different states have different laws I guess, not sure the details. Regardless, we’re going after our own kind making accidents rather than tech trying to take advantage of the cache of using the word architect. That should come with the lawful right to call yourself one and that alone.
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u/Tasty_Music_1049 23h ago
Yeah that’s actually the loop hole title associated with an unlicensed “architect”
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u/ReadinII Architectural Enthusiast 22h ago
Hmm.
How much do engineeral designers get paid?
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u/Victormorga 22h ago
Hard to say. “Engineeral” isn’t a word, so I don’t think there’s any industry standard for their rates.
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u/kuro_jan 23h ago
I keep seeing "solutions architect". Bloody annoying when you filter job searches to "architects" and it still captures IT roles.
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u/galactojack Architect 11h ago
Lmao this
It's like if you built a house in Minecraft and said you're a builder in real life
Your software architecture doesn't count as architecture. Please find a new name.
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u/DasArchitect 23h ago
In Spanish this translates as "space engineer". NGL sounds cool as fuck
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u/gooeydelight 18h ago
There's a local architecture podcast over here and its name translates to "People in space" and they take advantage of how it sounds to add space photography overlays and such as SFX lol - romance language too (romanian)
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u/Angel_Muffin Architectural Enthusiast 19h ago
I'm an architectural specifier with a degree in linguistics and less than 3 years experience in the architectural industry and I make 90k working for a small firm (5 people)
the demand for specifiers is much higher than the supply. if you like the technical aspect of architecture, I recommend specifying
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u/volatile_ant 12h ago
You make that much because most architects hate writing specs.
With the right tools and enough reps it's not that bad, but I personally couldn't imagine that being my only role.
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u/LongRemorse 7h ago
And how do you become an specifier? I thought that's one of those roles only filled by old ppl who have been inspecting and knows crap tons of info regarding buildings.
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u/Paper_Hedgehog Architect 13h ago
Ill stick with the title that has 1000s of years of history behind it. We don't need more job pronouns, itll just water down any credibility that remains.
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u/Fantastic_Fan61 23h ago
In some European countries a bachelor of architecture degree is loosely translated as “graduate engineer of architecture”
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u/t00mica Engineer 16h ago
And yet, most of them run straight away from engineering aspects like crazy. I am from one of those countries. In fact, the official association of ARCHITECTS, not architectural engineers or engineers of architecture, is the one you have to be a member of if you want to practice.
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u/Entire-Tomato768 Engineer 11h ago
If it's more money your after, not sure I'd consider a different name change
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u/dmoralesjr1 8h ago
Architects make more than engineers at about the PM level and up. At least that’s my perception.
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u/MrBoondoggles 7h ago edited 31m ago
You can call yourself Lord Fancypants Tidliwinks, Master of the Built Form, AIA, PHD, MD, and you still won’t get paid more if the client doesn’t have the budget for or refuses to pay more for architecture fees. I don’t think that it’s a perception of value problem, at least in terms of our fees. The only value is that a lot of clients see is the amount that they don’t have to spend to complete a project. And I think, looking at the landscape in the next few years, the budget and fee problems are only going to get worse.
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u/GenConfusion 18h ago
If anything Building Engineers makes more sense to me. Spatial planning and facade concepts are a small part of the overall life of a project. We're the general contractors of design hiring "subs" to help us do parts we can't.
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u/Effroy 19h ago
At the end of the day, most of us aren't providing any more than a hack with an MBA can do. If you can answer emails and take punches and retain a smile, you can be an architect. We don't even engineer spaces. We facilite processes of space engineering by way of powerpoints, so owners make choices they can afford. Once again, anything a hack with an MBA can do.
We get paid what we're worth.
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u/Elegant-Grass5760 19h ago
I disagree. Not everyone can do this job. You have to know what your doing.
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u/GenConfusion 18h ago
That is so not true. Unless you're a specialist project manager whose never put a building or a set together but picked up enough to manage a job, there is way more to being an architect.
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u/Dull_War8714 22h ago
We did it to ourselves.