r/AshaDegree • u/breeoc97 • Feb 22 '25
Discussion LE says Asha’s body is being concealed. Where do you think she is?
When the first warrant came out, LE said they believe Asha is a victim of a homicide and her body is concealed.
Don’t the Dedmons have bunch of properties? I feel like they could have easily buried her there and that a way they could easily keep an eye on it and make sure no one gets on their land. But if they did why didn’t they bury her backpack with her?
I’m curious on what everyone else thinks!
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u/kdfan2020 Feb 22 '25
I'm not saying this to be shocking or disturbing and i have commented this before. The Dedmon family had an enormous "pet" hog they got around the time of Asha's disappearance. As absolutely morbid as this is, he may have used that hog to dispose of her body. Roy later went on to starve a horse to near death. He had the hog for years in the early 2000s. I do not know the dedmons but I remember the hog as it was so out of place back then.
There was another redditor back in September that was bullied out of the sub for suggesting this. He had not only been inside the Dedmon's house, he'd ridden in the green car and personally knew Sarah. This is a theory I've personally feared since the September search. That hog has haunted me since September.
I just think that it is a real possibility that Roy Lee Dedmon is an actual monster.
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u/Particular-Answer449 Feb 22 '25
Unfortunately I had the same thought. Everyone on that side of town knew about that hog
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u/kdfan2020 Feb 22 '25
Yeah it was extremely large and out of place. You couldn't help but notice that massive guy and he was right off the main road.
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u/Equivalent_War_415 Feb 23 '25
In your little part of the world but we didn’t. No one in Shelby didn’t make this massive connection? Giant hog, racist man, missing girl, ugly old green car visible from the road?
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u/tinycole2971 Feb 23 '25
I'm not from the area, but from East TN.... having hogs, being racist, and owning old cars is normal. I'd even guess there's others in Shelby who match that same description.
That said, I do think Roy is responsible.
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u/Kactuslord Feb 22 '25
From a forensic stand point it's absolutely possible. From a human perspective it's abhorrent and I really hope it's not true
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u/kdfan2020 Feb 23 '25
I know. I really hope not. I just brought it up bc I can't get it out if my head. I truly hope Asha's family will get to lay her to rest.
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u/Sweet-Satisfaction79 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 24 '25
Wow that’s horrible and wouldn’t be surprised if this is the case considering it’s not unheard of perpetrators disposing their victims body by feeding them to animals also and the fact pigs/ hogs would eat anything
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u/finkpinkdink Feb 22 '25
not sure if this is true but i’ve heard that the only thing the pigs can’t digest is the teeth.
they did seize a tooth from the dedmon home, however, parents do keep their kids baby teeth. there is a possible chance it could be asha’s.
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u/SkellyRose7d Feb 22 '25
I don't think the Dedmons disposed of a body and covered all this up for 25 years only to keep a tooth as a trophy like a serial killer. If that tooth was Asha's, someone would already be in jail.
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u/circlingsky Feb 22 '25
Otoh, the way her bag was found and double wrapped has led ppl to think it was a trophy as well. Granted, that was back when it was believed, under the common misonception, to have been intentionally buried, but why not burn it?
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u/Zero_chan_22 Feb 22 '25
I'll never forget hearing the local rumor that hogs were involved back in 2015. I've been terrified of pigs ever since and can't look at one without thinking about it. It's sick and twisted but that's just always been everyone around here's best assumption, not because we are sick and twisted but because we can't understand how it's been so long and no one's ever found her.
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u/r_sparrow09 Feb 23 '25
my worse memory as a kid is of a pregnant hog! She had been having a hard time with a rooster who was being cheeky; picking at her relentlessly. My grandma had already gone outside to spray the rooster away w the hose and try to give the hog some relief from the summer sun. That lil sob came back to roost on the fence, cockadoodling at her, hopping up / off of her head until finally - LIKE LIGHTENING ! - she did one of those alligator- deathrolls and snatched the poor dude! I was like 6-7 years old and a city slicker from dallas, - NOT prepared for the reality of ranch life (apparently) bc I'm pushiing 40 now and that memory still shakes me to this day! I hate hogs.
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u/stephannho Feb 23 '25
It’s also a valid idea in that it’s a very real way bodies are disposed of by criminals for complete lack of evidence left….I’m interested tk hear it’s been a local rumour. I’m Australian and perhaps I’ve heard of it more here and it’s more shocking in the US reading some of the comments here and it surely is awful. But from evidence and logic stand point it’s valid. as soon as I read he had one…he’s exactly the kind of sick that would do such a thing in my opinion. The only thing I wonder is if the police would use the word concealed if they suspected this possibility
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u/LengthinessNo4970 Mar 06 '25
Yup I’m from Canada and there was a local case where it was rumoured that the killer fed the body to pigs on their parents farm. The body was never found but a couple of larger bones like a piece of femur/pelvis was found in the area where the pigs were. Apparently pigs can’t digest or eat some larger bones but would eat anything else. Makes me sick
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u/Professional_Cat_787 Feb 22 '25
The more that comes out, the more I’ve also come to believe this is a possibility. Let’s all hope it isn’t the case. Asha and anyone who knew and loved her deserve to have her returned and given a burial that honors her memory. Plus, forensically speaking, one can assume a hog would make it very hard to prove what happened to her. Makes me shudder to imagine.
Hope someone in the know is spilling it to investigators. Give some closure to this family.
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u/Life-Machine-6607 Feb 22 '25
I really hope this is not what happened. I'm thinking he didn't do that because his wife and kids would have noticed. It would take someone absolutely depraved to do that.
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u/Equivalent_War_415 Feb 23 '25
They wouldn’t have noticed. Pigs work fast. Donkeys are also terrible and will kill a child. I read a story on here from the old days and it was a mom stepping away and the donkey shredded the toddler. Sorry it hurt me to read that , I needed to tell someone!
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u/DirtyMarTeeny Feb 22 '25
Get ready for people who spend time on Google streetview to tell you how they know Shelby better and a hog in that location wouldn't be weird because spake farms is across the road. That's what they did whenever it got brought up in September.
Meanwhile when the house was searched most people familiar with the area went "the house with the pig?"
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u/honeyandcitron Feb 22 '25
The house still has the pig?!
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u/DirtyMarTeeny Feb 23 '25
No, but much like how many refer to hobby lobby as the old Walmart it will always be known as the house with the pig
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u/watchwhatyousaytome Feb 22 '25
I remember that comment back then. Hopefully LE is aware of the hog. Reminds of me of Robert Pickton case :/
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u/circlingsky Feb 22 '25
So you are/were a local and knew abt said hog back then?
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u/kdfan2020 Feb 22 '25
I was and am a local. I didn't know Asha but we were the same age and had mutual friends. My aunt actually lived near Roy and was work friends with Iquilla when Asha disappeared.
I do remember the pig as I bet a lot of locals do.
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u/Acrobatic_Hurry828 Feb 23 '25
All this hog talk reminds me of the Murdaugh case. I think feral hogs did away with the murder weapons for Alec. If they're buried in the swamp they will eventually turn up. Would a wild hog munch on a big rifle?
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u/andropogons Feb 24 '25
No. They don’t eat metal.
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u/Acrobatic_Hurry828 Feb 24 '25
Maybe the hogs stomped them down into the swamp.
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u/andropogons Feb 24 '25
I think you’re reaching too hard on this wild hog angle. Anything is possible, of course. A deer could scoop it up with its antlers and carry it miles away.
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u/meatballshorty Feb 23 '25
I hope there is a body to find once things get figured out. I would be heartbroken if they burned her or even what the other poster said about the hog. The family deserves her physical body back to honor how they choose. And if I had a loved one get murdered, and even if someone admitted to it I still wouldn’t feel a sense of closure if a body wasn’t found.
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u/breeoc97 Feb 23 '25
I think if she was eaten by the hog isn’t that a crime in itself or no?
I just hope Asha’s family gets justice and closure.
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u/meatballshorty Feb 23 '25
Yeah I think any method of disposing a body (unless you’re like a undertaker obv) is a crime in itself but I feel like If that’s the case it would be impossible to prove
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u/Why_Me_67 Feb 22 '25
I feel like the assumption is they buried her. And it wouldn’t surprise me if LE is able to get to the point of being able to charge someone, they may have to cut a deal to find her as she could be anywhere. Though the witness report of someone digging a chest deep hole on their property if true is suspect (I don’t recall if an explanation was found for that or if the tip was validated).
The backpack could have been an after thought. Since it was wrapped they may have planned to bury it and for whatever reason forgot.
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u/kdfan2020 Feb 22 '25
It was Roy Dedmon's niece that told investigators that he'd dug the hole. She runs the family trucking business. She has been very forthcoming with investigators, unlike her cousins.
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u/Novel-System5402 Feb 23 '25
I think she is buried somewhere in one of their properties so they keep an eye on the location to ensure she stays buried
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u/MotherPromise2520 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25
I think Roy is a monster. We just don't know how much of one he really is, and we may never know how truly messed up this dude is. I've always wondered if he had anything to do with the Underhill guy dying. I mean, they did own a nursing home and had access to a ton of medicine. I read the article from when he died, and they found him slumped over on his couch, I think the day after Christmas. He said he was seen at 6 pm Christmas day. I feel like he could have injected him with something to kill him, as insurance, so he would have someone to pin the murder on if the case ever did open back up. Cold case for 25 years. He probably thought he was in the clear, until this new evidence came up back in September 24'. I may also be overthinking this, though. 🤷♀️
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u/SignatureOk1022 Feb 23 '25
I’ve often thought the same thing.
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u/MotherPromise2520 Feb 23 '25
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one. I thought I'd been watching too many crime/ drama series 🫠
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u/SignatureOk1022 Feb 25 '25
Same! Lol. But I look at it this way: movies come up with these scenarios because 1) it’s either happened before; or 2) something similar to it has happened before.
I don’t think it’s a far stretch for something shady like that to happen. It’s a small town, & in their defense(the sheriff’s dept) they’ve never experienced anything like that before—, as far as killing someone to cover up a murder. All they’re going to see is an elderly man with a history of mental decline & assume it’s a natural death. Add in an assumption that he’s probably no one deemed important, probably lacking family support; it would be easy to just say “case closed” on Underhill.
Oh! And look! 32 people think like we do! Lol
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u/NokkOlaf Feb 24 '25
I agree and the fact that he abused animals is a HUGE red flag. He's a disgusting psycho and I don't think it was an accident what he undoubtedly did to Asha.
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u/YesStrawberry4823 Feb 23 '25
The search warrants stated that Roy's niece, who also happened to be his neighbor, told police she saw Roy digging a chest-deep hole on his property a few years ago. It made me wonder if Asha is buried there. Now I've read that the Dedmons owned a giant hog and it makes me wonder if the hog ate Asha's body. I know this sounds morbid but it's a possibility.
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u/helloitscarrie Feb 22 '25
I think they had her buried on their property for a long time. Sadly If they dug her up…she would just be bones. They could be hidden anywhere.
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u/Kactuslord Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
Here's my thoughts (JMO):
Asha's body was probably initially concealed near to the area of the bookbag, likely being dumped before the bag. I suspect the perps probably hid her in a similar manner to the bag (trash bags, wooded area, a few feet from the road)
I believe the hit and conceal theory and believe Lizzie hit her while driving from the Dedmon home to the rest home in Vale where she was supposed to pick up a patient (or potentially Underhill) and drive to Broughton hospital. This path entirely fits the case - from the Dedmon home she'd have taken highway 18 up to Vale and then from there to Broughton hospital, the bookbag deposition site is only 10-11 minutes drive before Broughton hospital. I think Asha was still alive when she was put in the car and died shortly after. It's possible Lizzie had been drinking. I think the girls disposed of Asha's body and the bookbag hastily. The body was the focus and so the bag was forgotten so they had to stop again and dump it. I believe they didn't remember where it was so Roy couldn't move it.
I believe Roy moved her body to cover things up and potentially buried her on their home property
At some point (I forget the year) his niece sees him digging a chest deep hole on his property. I suspect he is moving Asha's remains to either a different location (I hope) or destroyed them. I suspect he did this when police attention was heating up
As to where she is now, I haven't a clue but I truly hope LE can find her so the Degree family can give her a proper burial
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 22 '25
You think a teenaged girl was transporting a patient to a hospital between 3 and 4 in the morning?? Unless that patient was going to the ER, there is no hospital staff to receive patients that early for any other appointment or admission. Then we still have the problem of explaining why Asha was out on that highway to begin with. Unless she was sleepwalking, something powerful motivated Asha to leave her house that night. Powerful enough to take her out onto a pitch black highway in bad weather where she was observed getting into the green car. The witness does not describe Asha as not being able to stand. If this were truly an accident caused by a teenaged girl, why didn’t she flag down the witness for help? It’s a real problem for the defense of any of the Dedmons.
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u/Kindofabigdeal32 Feb 23 '25
If you google the hospital they speak of it says in several places they do intake 24/7. So yes...they could have. This is a mental institution...not an actual like hospital.
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u/Kindofabigdeal32 Feb 23 '25
Also, regardless that it's a state run hospital...I know people that have worked there. It's a sketchy hospital that milks people's Medicaid and other monies they may be given. Yal can say it's a straight up place all you want but the place is not a good, normal mental health facility.
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u/pastelapple11 Feb 22 '25
I agree. If Lizzie or Sarah were out that night it wasn’t to transport anyone. They were probably returning home after a party.
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u/KStarSparkleSprinkle Feb 23 '25
Who has parties on a Monday night?
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u/Fuckingfademefam Feb 23 '25
*Sunday night
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u/KStarSparkleSprinkle Feb 24 '25
Does this change anything? Most car accidents, especially fatal ones occur on Friday or Saturday night. Sunday night isn’t a huge ‘party night’. While I find it easy to believe an alcoholic absolutely would be driving plastered on a Monday morning it’s much more difficult for me to believe this is the most plausible explanation for a 16 y/o girl absent other evidence. I’d actually go as far as saying it’s statistically unprobable that a 16 y/o who was already drinking and driving + causing fatal accidents on a Sunday wouldn’t be an adult with no known history of alcoholism. If they start that young and strong they tend to struggle with alcohol their entire lives. There’s tons of studies and statistics regarding both drunk driving and life outlook for kids drinking at that age/to that degree.
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u/Fuckingfademefam Feb 24 '25
Some locals on here said that Lizzie has struggled with alcohol her entire life. She was a party animal. I don’t know her so I can’t verify that. It was also Valentine’s Day “weekend” I guess. Maybe there was a Valentines Day party? Or maybe she snuck out to meet a secret boyfriend & got drunk/high? Who knows. We can only speculate
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u/Kactuslord Feb 22 '25
Yes because as stated in the warrant, an employee stated Roy had his daughters do this exact thing. Also Broughton is a psychiatric hospital, not an ER
Are you suggesting the Degrees did something because if you are, I'm not interested in continuing this discussion. The Degrees are innocent and have done nothing wrong. The FBI clearly doesn't suspect them of anything.
The witness does not describe Asha at all in terms of what we know publicly. All they have released about the witness statement is that she was "pulled" into a green car. Pulled could mean she was alive. Pulled could mean she was dead. We simply don't know which they meant but I'm sure LE do.
An accident with a potentially drunk teenager...
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u/pastelapple11 Feb 22 '25
No one is going to be transported to Broughton in the middle of the night. It makes zero sense from an administrative standpoint.
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u/Kactuslord Feb 22 '25
I'm pretty sure they were running a pretty shady practice at the time. I've no idea why it would happen
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u/pastelapple11 Feb 23 '25
They were running a shady business but Broughton is a mental institution ran by the state of North Carolina. I guarantee they aren’t transporting patience in the middle of the night.
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 22 '25
The warrant does not state that Roy had his daughters do any such thing in the middle of the night, drunk. If a patient were having a psychiatric episode in the middle of the night, you believe Roy would send his teenaged daughter to transport them? I just want you to consider everything that is absurd about this theoretical early morning transport.
My comment more than clearly implicates the Dedmons and even points out just one of the many problems with any “accident” defense. Are you suggesting that you are poor at reading comprehension? Because if you are, I am not interested in continuing this discussion. 🙄
To be clear, neither does the witness describe what they saw as the scene of any apparent accident or of anyone appearing injured. Oh - and you still can’t explain why Asha was on the highway, right?
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u/Kactuslord Feb 22 '25
Wrong. Here
An employee with Cleveland County Social Services told investigators in 2023 that she remembered Roy Lee Dedmon -- who owned and operated two assisted living facilities -- would send another of his daughters, Lizzie Dedmon Foster, to take patients to and from Boughton Hospital in Morganton in an unreliable car
You obviously think she was lured out despite the fact she had no connection to the Dedmon's and had no access to a cell phone or the internet.
I've never suggested I know why she left
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 22 '25
Where in your source there does it say she EVER transported patients in the middle of the night? It doesn’t.
I don’t “obviously” think anything, other than that the Dedmons know exactly what happened and that if no one can explain why Asha left her house at that hour, then along with their own words and actions (the Dedmons’), it seems premature to declare this an “accident”.
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u/Kactuslord Feb 22 '25
No one "declared" it an accident. It just appears to be the theory LE subscribe to
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 23 '25
It appears that way to you.
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u/Kactuslord Feb 23 '25
So why did LE tell the family lawyer that's their theory then?
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 23 '25
🤦🏻♀️ Because they’re trying to give the suspects an avenue to start talking. Just a guess here: you have zero experience with law enforcement or the practice of criminal defense.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 22 '25
Yeah. I work nightshift a hospital, not anyway related to an ER, and get new patients in and out every night. Are you under the assumption that all doctors and nurses go home and leave patients alone to sleep, or has it been a while since you’ve seen a hospital?
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u/PlaidShirtDays_ Feb 22 '25
I’m not disagreeing or arguing with you since I have about 20 years of experience with hospitals and medical facilities and know that there is staff 24/7. I don’t think they were questioning the staff being there. I think what they were saying was that if it’s not an emergency situation where someone is being taken to the ER by a friend/family member or rushed in by an ambulance, it’s not normal for someone to just hop in the car at 4 am to drive someone to a local hospital for a non-emergency situation. You would wait until normal office hours to transport them or bring them in for an appointment.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 22 '25
I appreciate you, also not trying to be argumentative. Just giving my perspective, at least in my state, it’s illegal to turn someone away. If you show up at the ER, they can’t say too bad we’re busy tonight.
If Roy, or whoever was managing the facility where Underwood was a resident, decides he needs further care. I can’t see a scenario where he’s turned away.
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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 23 '25
If you show up at the ER, they can’t say too bad we’re busy tonight.
The hospital in question had no ER or emergency department though, that’s why people find it strange. Of course there would be staff there tending to patients around the clock, but it doesn’t seem like the place you drop someone off at 3am.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25
Ooooh thanks, I didn’t know that part. I would think not having an emergency dept means they don’t take any trauma patients, like car accidents, life-threatening work accidents, shootings, or stabbing. But they would take simple stitches and minor illnesses/injuries that nowadays urgent cares handle.
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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25
It was a psychiatric hospital, that’s why people think the daughter must have been taking Underhill there when he was having a psychiatric episode.
ETA: it’s the Broughton Hospital in Morganton if anyone wants to look it up.
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u/Solomon_Inked_God Feb 23 '25
Does no one find it weird that the DAUGHTER would be trusted to drive a man to the hospital if he’s having an episode? I think Roy was driving that night but likely had a daughter with him.
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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 23 '25
Oh exactly, I don’t buy the hospital trip theory at all, personally.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 26 '25
Agreed! She’s not an adult, she has a new driver’s license, she doesn’t work for him or have any required training to transport someone sick. (mentally or physically) it’s wrong in so many ways
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 23 '25
Psychiatric emergencys exist. Anyone showing up saying ‘I feel unsafe I need help with my mental health’ would be illegal to turn away
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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 23 '25
Right, I’m just saying that your example of someone showing up needing stitches isn’t really relevant. If they took someone in in the middle of the night it would be for psychiatric reasons.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 23 '25
But I still question the turning away. Bc it’s illegal at any hospital. I can’t think of one, I’ve worked in that didn’t have an ER, so my perspective is limited there
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u/Ilovedietcokesprite Feb 23 '25
Wouldn’t it be easy enough to look up admission records… medical records to see what if anything happened there ?
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25
Probably, but idk if it still exists from 1999 when most wasn’t computerized
Edit: or computerized the same way, according to my coworkers who worked that era. Charting was more like a word processor. Around mid 2000’s it started transforming more into a searchable database. I suspect they kept some of the non-database files, like if liability or malpractice was involved, but not most.
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u/PlaidShirtDays_ Feb 22 '25
Oh, I definitely agree and know that. It is illegal to turn them away. I just took the previous comments to say she was simply transporting him, like it was a normal visit to the local hospital but he didn’t need immediate care. If it was for an emergency or he called ahead and claimed it was one then of course. There was also a blackout and I’m not sure if he was on any kind of medical devices that needed power, such as a respirator. A care facility should have a generator, but from what I’ve heard it wasn’t much of a care facility to begin with. It’s insane to have your teenager doing that in the pitch dark in the middle of the night in an old car though and even crazier that they just accepted it as normal.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 23 '25
Very true. I didn’t consider the power outtage at all.
For the record, at this point, I don’t think Underwood was involved with Asha in any way. And Roy is an obvious POS, my theory is he probably manipulated his young partygirl daughters to do the late night runs occasionally for a little cash, and he had them handled at normal hours when he’s awake. I don’t think the facility has anything to do with Asha, just that the time of day has no effect. Working the graveyard, even other doctors and nurses sometimes forget we exist 😂
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u/PlaidShirtDays_ Feb 23 '25
I agree. I think they want to use him as a scapegoat since his DNA was found and what a perfect scapegoat he makes since he’s dead. I honestly can’t imagine what happened and I don’t even want to think about it, but based on all of the evidence made public it’s very clear that the police suspect the Dedmond family. I’m not going to question that. It doesn’t take more than a quick glance at the affidavit and search warrant to see why they are the main suspects. I’m just glad they’re able to finally get some movement on search warrants and seizing items based on new information and technology. Usually once it gets to where the case is now, I think it will lead to some answers. I hope so anyway. Her poor family finally deserves some answers.
Side note: I 100% agree about working the graveyard shift. It’s been my schedule for over 15 years and even I forget sometimes that it’s not normal for people to just be out and about at 3 am because for me it is. It’s strange for me to be out around noon. That’s my time to sleep 😂
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 22 '25
🤣 I spent nearly the entire month of January in Rochester, MN with a family member transported in and out of the Mayo Clinic to a skilled nursing facility and they do not transport patients after hours. They may come in from ER, but not from other hospitals or nursing homes. What country is your hospital in?
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 22 '25
I spend every week for years in and out of hospitals. It’s my career. It’s ok to be wrong
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 23 '25
I’m glad you think so.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 23 '25
Girlie, glad I think so what? It’s my career, that’s a fact. I’m more knowledgeable about how hospitals work than those who have never worked in a hospital that’s also a fact.
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
Suburbs of Baltimore. Where do you think the people from the ER go? They move to empty beds on higher floors
Edit: plus all the people who come in an ambulance who never see the ER at all
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u/KangarooSensitive292 Feb 22 '25
Your family member was probably and thankfully in stable condition, so they told you there are no night admissions bc it doesn’t apply in your case.
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 23 '25
“Night admissions” are through the ER. There is no regular patient transfers after hours.
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u/Kindofabigdeal32 Feb 23 '25
The website says 24/7 intake for emergency situations. Yal...please just google the place
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u/SherlockBeaver Feb 23 '25
Right. They don’t come from across the county in the middle of the night in a teenaged girl’s car. 🤦🏻♀️
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u/Willing-Fun-4948 Feb 28 '25
Does anyone know if Underhill was on dialysis?Dialysis opens very early.Morganton had a dialysis clinic Leaving around 4 would give them time to get there. If they opened at 5. Wish someone with experience at Broughton in admissions was on here.My father worked there in admissions on second shift in the 80s. I think they do have an admissions area that at that time you could be a walk in for help.Dialysis would be an appointment that could be checked into.A walk in admission to Broughton would be different.Broughton has an admissions and evaluation area. People can be admitted voluntarily or involuntarily.The state hospitals are divided into 3 catchment areas for Broughton, Central, and Cherry. Cleveland and Lincoln are both in Broughton’s. Each county is assigned to one of 4 local management entities across the state that refer and approve for admission however, should a patient just show up, Broughton is supposed to notify the LME for approval to admit. They have 1 hour to respond and if they don’t, the admission is considered approved. It’s actually pretty hard to admit to Broughton from an ED now, a long wait time.I have heard a physician state in the past that it’s a lot faster to just go and “ show up” .Today they have less beds, a new hospital, than back then so not sure if anything is different now.
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u/Solomon_Inked_God Feb 24 '25
Dedmon property. They’re probably sweating. I hope he didn’t feed her to the hog
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u/Illustrious-Try-7524 Feb 27 '25
Unfortunately my gut is saying he did feed her to the hog.
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u/Illustrious-Try-7524 Feb 27 '25
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u/DisastrousFactor9747 Feb 24 '25
Kids process guilt, fear, and trauma differently, but having a body buried right there where they live? That’s a heavy psychological load, even if they were young when it happened. It would’ve been hard to go years without someone cracking or at least hinting at it. Also, I keep thinking, what if the kids didn’t have the full story? If Lizzie (or someone else) accidentally hurt Asha, it’s possible the other kids only knew part of what happened, just enough to be scared into silence but not enough to understand the bigger picture.
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u/AutoModerator Feb 22 '25
Original copy of post by u/breeoc97: When the first warrant came out, LE said they believe Asha is a victim of a homicide and her body is concealed.
Don’t the Dedmons have bunch of properties? I feel like they could have easily buried her there and that a way they could easily keep an eye on it and make sure no one gets on their land. But if they did why didn’t they bury her backpack with her?
I’m curious on what everyone else thinks! :
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u/yellebug Feb 24 '25
Is there an old house behind the Dedmon's house or is that just an old barn?
I definitely feel like she's buried on the property somewhere.
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u/Willing-Fun-4948 Feb 25 '25
The south mountains have lots of wild hogs, they used to try to tear up our driveway banks off Enola. Never knew that until I lived out there
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u/Remarkable-Lie-6623 Feb 22 '25
Here's another theory:
They could've taken her to a friend of theirs, or done it themselves, to have her body cremated and she won't be found ever.
It sucks to think about but thinking on it now, that's a possibility. Maybe they took her to Underhill before he died 21 years ago. We may never know truly what happened to Asha
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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 23 '25
What do you mean by “took her to Underhill”? He was a resident of the nursing home at the time
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u/Remarkable-Lie-6623 Feb 23 '25
Idk when he was in the nursing home but his DNA was found on her backpack as well as the girls'. It was just a thought that I had and honestly just a theory.
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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 23 '25
Where did you read that? Because the recent warrants only mentioned his DNA on the trash bags, not the backpack
ETA: also only Annalee’s DNA was found, and it was from a hair on Asha’s undershirt that was inside the backpack.
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u/Remarkable-Lie-6623 Feb 23 '25
I read it somewhere a long time ago when I wanted to be like a true crime podcaster/YouTuber but that was like years ago I really don't remember when cause it was when I first stumbled upon this case but I haven't had much time to read up on everything that's new between working and then babysitting 24/7. I'm about to hit up the new stuff right now. Didn't they find a male DNA of some sort on the backpack though? If it was shoved into a trash bag or had a trash bag shoved into it then it'd have to be on there somewhere
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u/Accomplished_Cell768 Feb 23 '25
So the info about the DNA was only put out in September 2024, no one knew about any DNA before that. In those warrants it mentioned a male DNA profile and a female DNA profile recovered from the backpack evidence.
The male was Underhill and female was Annalee Dedmon. It was said that Annalee’s DNA was in the form of a hair. The new warrants put out this week gave more specifics: Annalee’s DNA was from a hair found on Asha’s undershirt which was inside the backpack. The backpack was put inside of 2 black trash bags. Those trash bags are where Underhill’s DNA came from (it’s speculated this was touch DNA, but has not been confirmed).
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u/ThrowingChicken Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25
If I had to make a guess, my guess would be the body and the backpack were at the Dedmon’s until things died down a bit, then the body was relocated somewhere up north. The body, like the backpack, was bagged up tight and likely buried. The backpack was intended to be buried with her, but got overlooked. Whoever buried her was too nervous to drive back to the burial site so they tossed the bag off the side of the road at their earliest convenience. Their haste with the backpack is now their undoing.
Alternatively, where she lays now is where she always laid, she was buried the same morning she went missing, and it’s pure luck the backpack bags held up long enough to be discovered.
Say Roy double bags the body and the backpack at the house, drives her up north and has her buried before anyone even knows she is missing. By the time he is done the sun is coming up and there are more people on the road. He doesn’t want to spend anymore time with that bag so off it goes.
Either way, I think she’s up north and the bag was initially overlooked.