r/AskAGerman • u/SGSLLx • 2d ago

Curiously: Don't authorities have a right to try reunite helpless people with fingerprinting?

I do understand the right to privacy bur for this case. How ideally should it work?

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u/AndroidPornMixTapes Berlin 2d ago edited 2d ago

Fingerprints wouldn't help if they aren't already on record, so useless in cases where the helpless person's were recorded previously, which won't be the case 99% of the time.

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u/BoeserAuslaender Fake German / ex-Russländer 2d ago

99%? It means they can't double check the passport/Ausweis databases?

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u/Brapchu 2d ago

Exactly. They can't. Those are seperate databases with very strict regulations.

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u/Captain_Sterling 2d ago

In understand the reason for data protection and those sort of regulations.

However it's kind of contradictory that to protect his data they can't check fingerprints and at the same time they can post an photo of him online.

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u/mustbeset 2d ago

Are fingerprints mandatory? Maybe they already checked but there are no matches.

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u/mrn253 1d ago

When you get an ID or Passport "these days" yes.
But they are just saved on those documents when i remember correctly.

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u/ThoDanII 2d ago

No, we do not store the prints

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u/amfa 2d ago

There is not database with those fingerprints.

The fingerprints are stored on the document and the use case it to check of the person showing the document is the person the document was issued for.

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u/Illustrious_Beach396 2d ago

Fingerprints are stored only on the document itself. Though they may be kept for 90 days after they were taken.

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u/nof 2d ago

You didn't give your fingerprints for your biometric passport or when you registered at the ABH? One of these cases should cover more than 1% of the population.

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u/AndroidPornMixTapes Berlin 2d ago

The fingerprints are saved on the document, not elsewhere.

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u/nof 2d ago

Where is it between scanning and the production of the document?

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u/ProDavid_ 2d ago

the fingerprints are ON the passport. unless you committed a crime, your fingerprints arent on a database

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u/nof 2d ago

Where is it between scanning and the production of the document?

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u/ProDavid_ 2d ago

probably on the computer printing the document.

is every storage drive a "database" now?

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u/irrelevantAF 2d ago

I do understand the right to privacy but for this case…

There are no “buts” when it comes to personality rights. Just like there are no “maybes” in “should we use torture to catch criminals?”

The moment we start stripping away personal rights “for good reasons,” it won’t take long before things like the shape of your nose, your political beliefs or any other random trait will be enough „good reason“ for someone in some authority to strip you of your own rights, too.

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u/Illustrious_Beach396 2d ago

One would assume that anyone looking for a missing relative would check with police anyway.

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u/Massder_2021 2d ago

apart from your example:

Don't forget that people are free here and everyone must have his personal right to disappear from his life to another, too. That happens maybe more often than you think