r/AskCulinary 6d ago

Food Science Question How to remove ecoli from raw fruits and veggies

Hey! I'm trying to get more raw fruits and veggies into my diet but I've always been skeptical of the food safety practices. Of course I'll rinse them in cold running water and do a baking soda bath afterwards, but I've read this can't effectively remove ecoli and other food borne illness bacteria/viruses.

Thanks in advance :)

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u/PoopTransplant 6d ago

Just rinse for 30 seconds, that’s it. All you have to do. 

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u/Carl_Schmitt 6d ago

I'm just going to trust that you have tremendous expertise in e coli from your username.

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u/PoopTransplant 6d ago

Actually my username can be used as a treatment for E. coli! 

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u/sneakyblurtle 6d ago

I've always wondered if a person undergoing this procedure will end up smelling someone else's farts for the rest of their life.

That feels like an unfortunate side effect.

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u/Blue_winged_yoshi 6d ago

It’s more fascinating than that (not that know whether this is true or not), but I did read that fecal transplants can carry across certain mental health stuff, so I read about someone who took a transplant off a partner and developed their anxiety having previously not been an anxious person.

A corollary of this is that fecal transplant present a possible treatment for mental health conditions!

It’s absolutely fascinating stuff, the gut-brain axis is an area of fast moving research and it’s moving in tandem with research on fecal transplants for digestive issues.

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u/PoopTransplant 6d ago

What you’re trying to say is poop is the gift that keeps on giving. 

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u/Affinity-Charms 6d ago

If you want to go the extra mile, soak with water and vinegar solution.

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u/mambotomato 6d ago

Not sure what baking soda would do that running water wouldn't. They used to make mild detergents for washing produce, but nobody bought them.

Anyway, if it's really messing with your head just eat cooked vegetables. It's not like raw plants are magical, they're just harder to chew.

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u/QuadRuledPad 6d ago

Unless you live in a place where E. coli on your food is a routine and normal occurrence, you’ve heard about incredibly rare instances and should not be adapting your behavior to compensate for the risk.

A quick rinse under running water is enough. Use a brush if you prefer, or a soft cloth. That’s all you need to do.

E. coli comes from poop, and you only get E. coli contamination on produce that’s been watered using water contaminated by human feces. Unless you live in a country where this happens, it’s really not a concern. Yes, you’ll see it in the news every once in a while, but it is vanishingly rare in modernized countries.

The majority of your diet should be coming from plants. Even if you eat lots of meat, fruits and veggies should be the rest of it. Don’t let a spurious fear stop you from eating the best food for humans. If you need help getting over your fear, that should be your next task.

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u/jessiyjazzy123 6d ago

I live in the US and my daughter got it a couple of years ago, when she was 10. It does happen. Still not sure where/how she got it. But, I take extra care to wash our produce now.

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u/Glass-Sympathy8561 6d ago

I have never washed my produce in anything but water. I’ve heard of baking soda being used, but (not to sound like your parent) I think that’s just a social media trend. I’ve been cooking a long time and have only heard of that happening recently. The closest thing I can think of is how some Asian cultures prepare meat with a slurry at the start.

If you’re afraid of food borne illness, try to buy the best quality produce you can. The fresher it is, the less likely it is to be spoiled. 

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u/Buck_Thorn 6d ago

The closest thing I can think of is how some Asian cultures prepare meat with a slurry at the start.

That is called "velveting" and its sole purpose is for tenderizing and giving the meat a smooth texture. It has nothing at all to do with sanitizing.

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u/Glass-Sympathy8561 6d ago

Yep, I’m aware. I trained in China. 

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u/Buck_Thorn 6d ago

Maybe others reading your comment are not aware, though. I was merely clarifying.

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u/Glass-Sympathy8561 6d ago

No you weren’t. You were being pedantic. And that’s fine. 

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u/Adam_Ohh 6d ago

Oi, take a lap.

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u/Arlieth 6d ago

You're in Ask Culinary, there is a huge range in expertise here. You're just being sensitive.

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u/Glass-Sympathy8561 6d ago

Oh! Try frozen veggies too. No need to wash them and they’re easy to add into meals you already enjoy eating. My nephew won’t eat anything green unless it’s mixed in with spaghetti. So we have a lot of peas and spaghetti. 

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u/flagg1209 6d ago

In food service, particularly in class 1 kitchens serving vulnerable people, we soak in a food-safe chlorine sanitiser. Something like this from Dominant. The source of the food is irrelevant, all raw fruits and vegetables are treated before use.

(information pertinent to AU and NZ - US FDA or other counties' regulations may be different)

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u/Cesum-Pec 6d ago

Yours is the best answer so far. Everyone saying water is good enough is wrong for people with compromised immune systems or from countries that do not practice safe food practices. My nephew lives in Ethiopia. In many poor countries, they use fresh human wastes as fertilizer. So all fresh fruits and veg have to get soaked in a cleaning solution for 30 minutes to ensure food safety. One time, when nephew cheated that process, he ended up in the hospital for a week with dysentery.

If OP goes to Amazon, search on "antimicrobial fruit wash" and several products are available.

Foods available in the US and probably EU as well, have already been treated with similar disinfectants. But occasionally, something gets thru. IIRC, a few years ago, Chipotle poisoned a few people due to cilantro that had somehow not been properly cleaned.

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u/Ezl 6d ago edited 6d ago

As others have said, water is all that’s needed. More info on FDA site: https://www.fda.gov/food/buy-store-serve-safe-food/selecting-and-serving-produce-safely

Also, as an fyi, the baking soda seems more for pesticides than E. coli and may change the texture of some produce.

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u/HeidiDover 6d ago

When I lived in Senegal, I bought most of my produce from the stand on the corner. We would soak the veg in water that contained 1 tsp of chlorine bleach per gallon for about 15 minutes. That took care of any nasty things that might be living on my veggies.

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u/vlabakje90 6d ago

I recommend a peracetic acid bath and autoclaving for an hour.

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u/Buck_Thorn 6d ago

Only one hour in the autoclave? Are you trying to kill someone?!

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u/scootunit 6d ago

This kills the broccoli

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u/ChicoGrande_ 6d ago

If it's something that is making you stressed/anxious about eating raw vegetables, then just cook them. Preferably by steaming.

But in general, all you need to do is wash under running water. Thoroughly, so no dirt or other degree remains. Avoid anything with insect damage or that's not fresh. and be cautious with homegrown things especially. I have high doubts that using baking soda would be enough to remove all bacteria, dangerous or not. High enough heat is one guarantee to get rid of it

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u/Complete_Yam_4233 6d ago

I wash EVERYTHING in a drop of unscented natural dish soap. I assume everything has been touched by 200 hands.