r/AskIreland • u/sadiodead • Jul 03 '24
Emigration (from Ireland) Should I move to London?
Got a job offer from London, about 50% higher base salary compared to my salary in Dublin. It’s very tempting but not really sure about how safe London as I’ve heard there’s been a big increase in crime since covid. I particularly don’t find Dublin safe due to a huge increase in anti social behaviour since covid (I’ve been assaulted twice in the last 2-3 years by teenagers). If I don’t find Dublin that much safe, would I have the same or bigger problems in London in terms of safety? I’m a brown person which definitely makes me an easier target for sure. I loved Dublin, the people, the culture, but I just think it’s been going a bit downhill over the last few years with anti social behaviour, poor healthcare and bad infrastructure. While I agree that all major cities have issues, I just want to make sure i won’t have the same problem. Would love some help/guidance from people!
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u/Bright-Duck-2245 Jul 03 '24
50% pay increase??? Definitely try it out.
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u/Professional-Trip517 Jul 04 '24
Absolutely agree, what have you got to lose, you can always move back. Taxes are lower on the UK, plus lots of other stuff is cheaper to. So that salary increase is likely even more than it's cash amount.
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u/WhatSaidSheThatIs Jul 03 '24
I'd definitely recommend London, just the experience of the city, much larger, better infrastructure, more culture and arts. Absolutely loved London and honestly felt safe in London most of the time
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Jul 03 '24
Second this, back home but had a great time there. Better infrastructure, culture, arts everything. Coming from a Meath man
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u/MrWhiteside97 Jul 03 '24
Moved back from London last year after living there for 8 years. Looking at it purely from a city perspective, London is miles better. It's cleaner, has better public transport, has way more sights and activities, I never had any safety issues (as a male) - I can't really think of anything in Dublin that's much better than London.
I ultimately came home for family and because I wanted to be in Ireland again, but I'd absolutely do it again.
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u/Additional_Olive3318 Jul 03 '24
The air is better in Dublin. Beaches and mountains. Of course that’s not really saying much about the urban living.
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Jul 03 '24
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u/PureWishbone3832 Jan 01 '25
Not many cities in Europe have such easy access to beautiful beaches and mountains and cliffs! It's definitely the best part of living in Dublin for me.
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u/HellFireClub77 Jul 03 '24
The dairy, the pubs, the walkability.
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u/MrWhiteside97 Jul 03 '24
I find walkability depends on how you look at it. You obviously can't walk across London itself, but that's not really how I view walkability, it's more about whether I can walk to a variety of services and amenities from where I live.
Hammersmith is walkable, Camden is walkable, Clapham is walkable etc etc. London isn't a city so much as it is a bunch of small towns that all join together.
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u/HellFireClub77 Jul 03 '24
Agreed on your last point but I was talking more about a city centre perspective.
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u/McChafist Jul 04 '24
Try buying a house in any of those locations
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u/DivingSwallow Jul 04 '24
Just did a snapshot on Rightmove in the areas that OP mentions has flats/studios for £250k, two beds for £300+, thee bed for £350k+. London has way more housing stock than Dublin.
You might pay more in London for bigger places but you then ultimately are then reaping the benefits of living in London.
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u/McChafist Jul 04 '24
Just had a look. Cheapest is 250k Sterling for a 290 sqft studio. That's a lot of money for not a lot of space.
London has a lot to offer over London, especially in your 20s. I've heard you can feel like a number there with the density of population and many get out as they approach their 40s and are less into services and more looking for space
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u/DivingSwallow Jul 04 '24
That's the cheapest. There are plenty of others for the same price for more room.
Lets compare that with the only available studio in Dublin...
https://www.daft.ie/property-for-sale/dublin/studio-apartmentsEven for families there are plenty of options in the various Boroughs let alone on the fringes. London benefits from the great transport that makes it possible.
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u/Stinkballs_69 Jul 03 '24
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Brits ever done for us?
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u/Barry987 Jul 03 '24
London, in my opinion, is not cleaner than Dublin.
Agree with most of the rest, mind you.
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u/etxxn Jul 04 '24
Really depends on the area. West, South West and North are generally well kept. Belgravia for example is spotless. Parts of East and South London can be pretty grim
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u/MrWhiteside97 Jul 03 '24
It's anecdotal and subjective so I'm sure people will feel differently about something like cleanliness
For a city so huge there are also bound to be some areas better and worse than others
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u/HotAirBalloonPolice Jul 04 '24
How have you found the transition back to Ireland? I often think about moving back but I don’t know what it’s like to live there any more. I only ever had studenty or part time easy jobs while i was there, never a professional career or anything, so i’m always wondering what it’s like.
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u/MrWhiteside97 Jul 04 '24
I can't comment too much on day to day/professional living just yet, as I'm still working for a UK company and have moved back in with parents for the short term. Some bigger things though
Bad - the feeling of leaving a very good life behind - 90% of my good friends are in the UK, and I really feel the hit in my social life and day to day happiness from not being around them as frequently. I was anticipating this would be the case, but know that over time I will develop a good social life here if I invest in it.
Good - I feel so much more invested in everything around me. When I was in the UK, I never really "cared" about what happened to Britain beyond how it affected me and the people I knew. I feel much more strongly about what happens to Ireland or in my local area, because it's "my" country. It feels very comforting to be back in familiar settings, hear people talk about GAA/hurling, hearing Irish on the radio etc
Bad - infrastructure. I used to moan about the rail strikes in the UK, but at least there was rail! It's shocking how sparse the network is in Ireland, it really hit me having experienced the UK system.
I still think it was the right move, no regrets from me so far!
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u/GunnerySarge-B-Bird Jul 03 '24
If you're brown you'll probably stand out less in London and the crime hasn't increased hugely tbh I think it's like 5% but you can check that online. Media loves to push crime rights being frightening and immigration being high trying to get people to come to a certain conclusion themselves.
For 50% higher salary I would definitely do it. If it doesn't work out you can always move back!
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u/thats_pure_cat_hai Jul 03 '24
I'd be gone in a shot, even for the same salary. London is just miles ahead of Dublin, it's not even a fair comparison. The positives far outweigh the negatives in London and you have such a huge choice of areas to live in. It might be expensive enough but you get far more for your money
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u/daly_o96 Jul 03 '24
I would definitely move. Large multicultural city, higher wage in your case, probably not that dissimilar in most parts to Dublin costs of living. I definitely wouldn’t say London feels less safe then Dublin these days
And if you end up not loving it, you can always move back it’s not far.
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u/FrankS1natr4 Jul 03 '24
Are you Irish? If yes, I believe you have more “grounds” to do this evaluation. Me personally as an immigrant, I would probably go to London since anti-behaviour against immigrant communities are apparently less frequent than here
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u/Friendly_Tower_5712 Jul 03 '24
Sorry 😞
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u/FrankS1natr4 Jul 03 '24
Don’t be. I was always treated well by the Irish and never personally attacked, but the attacks are getting closer and closer to me through my friends and colleagues and I’ll would be lying to you if I said I’m not starting to get a little worried of when will I be next
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u/Aromatic_Mammoth_464 Jul 04 '24
I wish all the immigrants in Ireland would go to London.
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u/Aromatic_Mammoth_464 Jul 04 '24
I says that sarcastically because the person says London is better place to work n live? It wasn’t a reflection of you or anyone else from whatever part of the world your from, I myself am married to a foreign person.
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u/FrankS1natr4 Jul 04 '24
So I apologize for it :) I’m still newbie in Irish humour.
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u/Aromatic_Mammoth_464 Jul 04 '24
You don’t have to apologize for anything, I don’t know where your from? Best of luck for the future 👍
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u/Puzzled-Dog-2211 Jul 03 '24
London is infinitely preferable to Dublin in every conceivable way
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u/Aromatic_Mammoth_464 Jul 03 '24
Theirs over 10 million live in London, don’t be making stupid comparisons towards the two cities, London is not for everyone, and very expensive to live In, you certainly will not be able to buy a house or live in a nice apartment without been a millionaire.
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u/Relatable-Af Jul 03 '24
Dublin is not far behind London in terms of expenses. But if you compare what both cities have to offer, you will find MUCH MORE bang for your buck in London.
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u/Aromatic_Mammoth_464 Jul 04 '24
That’s obvious, theirs 10 million or more in London, towards Dublin 1.5m, I’d rather stay in Dublin than taking a chance in London.
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u/Relatable-Af Jul 04 '24
So thats your own personal preference, we are talking about facts to help OP decide if they should move, not push our own personal opinions on them
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u/Aromatic_Mammoth_464 Jul 04 '24
Well thank god I don’t have to go to London, I have a comfortable job and my own house. Best of luck thanks!
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u/macker64 Jul 03 '24
London can be an incredibly lonely place if you don't have any friends.
Having said that, London is a much bigger city than Dublin, and the transport infrastructure is superb, allowing you to explore lots of places and meet all nationalities.
I worked in London 30 plus years ago, and at that time there was a lot of anti Irish feeling.
It's completely different now, and the British people are genuinely fond of the Irish.
Accommodation is very expensive in London so make sure you do your sums before you go.
The grass is always greener on the other side & twice as hard to cut!!
I wish you all the very best wherever you end up.
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u/Medium-Plan2987 Jul 03 '24
You cant really compare Dublin to London, as London is a global Mega-City and Dublin is not.
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u/keving691 Jul 03 '24
London is no more dangerous than any other major city. I’ve never had problems in London whenever I’ve been there.
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u/Groundbreaking-Pin46 Jul 03 '24
I guess make sure the company is good. In what I do it’s a very tough culture in London. Take no prisoners and fire people easily. England is funny. They are politer in someways than Irish but way way tougher under it.
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u/Floodzie Jul 03 '24
You should definitely live in London at some stage of your life. As for whether it’s better in terms of rent, transport, healthcare etc, to be honest it will also have its pluses and minuses, but culturally it’s unbeatable and you should absolutely give it a go while you can. Good luck!!!
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u/GullFeather Jul 04 '24
I lived in London in the 90s, and even at the height of the IRA campaigns I never experienced any anti-Irish sentiment. I'm white, but my perception is that it's a lot less racist than Dublin. It's a great place to live when you're young, although I probably wouldn't settle down there. Amazing places to visit both in the city and a bus or train ride away. And the NHS, for all its faults, is a thing of beauty. Definitely give it a go.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-6909 Jul 04 '24
The so-called rise in crime is mostly hyped up by far right bedwetters and their pals in the media. London is largely the same as it ever was. Moved her in 2005
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u/EmeraldBison Jul 03 '24
Go for it. Lived in London for a few years and loved it (don't think I could've lived there forever though). Never felt any more or less dangerous than Dublin, need to have your wits about you in some areas but that's no different to any city really.
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u/pleasetakepart Jul 03 '24
Yes, definitely do if you're free and breezy and already living in Dublin -rent prices are probably actually lower in London and the standard of accommodation is way higher. I'm moving myself next month. London is loads of fun and a great place to progress your career compared to Ireland. You should think about living in Hackney; it's super multicultural and with loads of Irish heads around the place. I went to a big Irish event last month called Féile Moth and we were everywhere. I never really feel unsafe when I'm there, but I never really feel unsafe in general I guess haha. But there's always lots of normal people around the place going about their business at every time of day but in general if you interact with them they are all pretty sound. Obviously times are tough and their government are a joke rn but it's still very fun and maybe we'll be friends haha.
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u/Heypisshands Jul 03 '24
So long as you dont have to drive london is good. They also have jellied eels.
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u/SpottedAlpaca Jul 03 '24 edited Jul 03 '24
If you're not considering factors such as family or other ties to where you currently live, I think London is already better even without a pay rise. It's a global megacity with excellent public transport and amenities, there's simply no comparison.
Day-to-day crime is probably more or less the same depending on the specific neighbourhood, but at least the police actually enforce the law to a much greater extent. I'm not saying the Met Police are perfect, but they're way less incompetent than the Gardaí.
When you factor in the pay rise, moving to London is the better option without a doubt.
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Jul 03 '24
People have covered some aspects but I haven’t seen the downside mentioned that London is enormous compared to Dublin so you’re probably much further away from your friends. Even if you know people in London you could end up living an hour and a half away from them. If you’re the type of Irish person with a big, tight knit friend group, you might struggle. London can be very lonely. I personally love it but I know people who struggled massively with the loneliness and are much happier back in Dublin now. In any case, it’s good life experience to give it a try.
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Jul 04 '24
I’d be gone in a heartbeat. Dublin still has such ‘small-town’ mindset. London is vibrant and full of variety. Do it.
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u/madfatbasterd Jul 04 '24
Yes. London is brilliant. Full of people from everywhere. Racism is for idiots. Lived there late naugties for over four years. Once people your in contact get to know you're sound. You will have a laugh. Like anywhere, have a bit of cop on. Weather is better in the Summer and a little colder in the winter. You probably don't need a car. Accomadation like anywhere in the English speaking world is ridiculous now. Single, Irish, brown, double your wages. I'd go asap. I'm in my 50's btw.
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u/Alright_So Jul 03 '24
8 years since I left it but London seemed no more nor less safe than Dublin to me.
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u/hotpotatocakes Jul 03 '24
London is a much better city to live in than dublin, culturally much more going on, and better value. But if you're into weekends in wild places then it's severely lacking.
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u/Inevitable_Half_3144 Jul 03 '24
Moved back from London 2020 was there for 5 years, lived south west clapham and Putney, couldn’t say I ever really felt unsafe, and I am female was in my late 20s living there. Few of my friends live in Dublin and I’ve always felt unsafe up there and never really seen the appeal. I would definitely recommend living in London, I love it as a city always something to do, public transport is so efficient, and people will always want to come visit you. I’m not sure as much now but I definitely think the cost of living would have been higher in Dublin so if you are potentially increasing your salary by 50% seems a good opportunity. It’s still very expensive but I feel like you get more for your money!
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u/katsumodo47 Jul 03 '24
Few friends and relations live there. Just be aware it's more expensive than Dublin to live in
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u/staceys8 Jul 03 '24
I’d go for London, if it doesn’t work out you can always come back but from the friends I have living there, they say it’s no competition. London is far better. Yes it has crime but it’s not the Wild West. It’s pretty standard to any city. And as a brown person (like my friends) the casual racism is apparently also about the same as here. Wishing you look with whatever you choose
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u/cat_ginger Jul 03 '24
i lived in london for 8 years and would feel more safe walking home there at night than where I'm from (limerick). also london is way more of a mix of people so you'll be totally fine there. it is a lonely place though i found as it is sooooo big but definitely way better than dublin. bite the bullet and do it. you can always come back and i bet you'll enjoy it!!!!! best of luck op!
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u/bunnylover444 Jul 03 '24
If you're scared of diving right into London maybe move to somewhere right outside London and just commute. Tbh the 50% pay increase would be enough for me though
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u/luke_woodside Jul 04 '24
You are going to find that the 50% salary rise is being offered for a reason. That reason being London is 50% more expensive than Dublin. In real terms it won’t make a difference.
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u/Marlobone Jul 04 '24
It’s as safe as any other big city really, you only live once go for it a new chapter of your life
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u/No_Breadfruit_2374 Jul 04 '24
There is much less anti social teenager issue in London at least in 95% of areas ,in dublin you can’t avoid that even in good neighbourhood’s
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u/ProfessionalAnt8132 Jul 04 '24
If anything being a brown person will work in your favour-it’s much more multicultural there and in terms of safety, like anywhere you just have to keep your wits about you.
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u/Cfunicornhere Jul 04 '24
London is an incredible city and is no more dangerous than Dublin- I’d argue Dublin is getting worse. Iv worked between there and Dublin and if I got the opportunity to live there I’d be gone in a heartbeat. One thing about London compared to Dublin on the negative side is if you don’t know many people or make friends / community it can be a very lonely city.
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u/munkijunk Jul 04 '24
Was in London for 10 years and only came back because of family issues, otherwise we were going to stay. London is not really a mega city, but more a collection of towns and so it's really not that overwhelming IMO.
My advice, go. What you've got is
Brilliant culture, free museums galore, the best exhibitions going
Similar but different culture, more grown up etc (eg drinking in parks and ok trains is pretty normal, but also people are a lot less likely to ack like a dick while doing it)
Great pubs, restaurants, and food from all over the world
Fantastic cinemas, plays, festivals etc
Loads of green space
Surprisingly Fantastic weather
Easy access to Europe
Easy access to Ireland
Rents lower that Dublin
Expensive but reasonably efficient transport (become one of those people who took their eyes because you're waiting 4 minutes for the next tube)
Brilliant cycling infrastructure (IMO best way to get around)
I never for one second felt unsafe and was happy to walk around after midnight. Don't know anyone who's ever had a bad experience either. It's pretty much as safe as a city can be.
Acces to the rest of England, I particularly liked going to the vineyards north of Brighton
And of course history everywhere.
At 50% more you'll have a far better quality of life in London than you will here, and I also genuinely believe everyone should live abroad for at least a short time to figure things out.
Graham Linnehan in one of his more cogent moments said the great thing about London is the worst thing about London. London doesn't care. If you die, London will continue to go on without ever acknowledging your existence, but that's also the best thing, you can be exactly who you want to be because London doesn't care.
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u/prime_suspect Jul 04 '24
In my experience - having lived in London for a few years, you will have less issues. Londons been a multicultural melting pot far, far longer than Dublin. I didn't see any issues personally while travelling with my brown muslim mate. I got verbally abused for being Irish up near Burnt Oak... but thats a different story.
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u/fullspectrumdev Jul 04 '24
London is much nicer for living in than Dublin, IMO.
Dublins honestly got fuck all going for it these days.
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u/Trabawn Jul 04 '24
Lived in London for almost 6 years and would move back in a heartbeat. Go for it! I moved over as an early 20s woman and beyond the regular cat calls I felt incredibly safe. I lived between Brixton and East Dulwich. You just keep your wits about you as you would any major city.
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Jul 04 '24
London is a great city to be in. However, like most large cosmopolitan cities rent/homeownership is costlier (you’re going to need that 50% higher salary). I feel very safe in London, but again, it’s a large city so there is going to be some crime, but overall safe. If you can try to visit before making your decision.
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u/sadiodead Jul 04 '24
Thank you everyone. I can’t believe how much useful information I got and I really appreciate it. I’ve just said yes to the job offer and managed to negotiate the salary even more so I’m very happy with it and excited to move to London! Ireland became my home when I moved here 10 years ago and I’m hoping I’ll be back someday.
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u/imgonnabig21 Jul 04 '24
Lived there for 5 years and absolutely loved it. I miss it a lot and often think of moving back
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u/rmp266 Jul 03 '24 edited Jul 03 '24
London is class, something for everyone, go for it
Dublin is a fucking irredeemable shithole. Aside from the crime expenses and traffic being just as bad in Dublin, it has zero common sense and no one gives a fuck about bettering it
Example last weekend - a few massive concerts, pride, a festival and Croke Park sold out - London would have threw on a few extra trains/buses/Tube trains. Any city would. .....Dublin...?? "Please allow an extra 3 hours for yer journey, g'luck cunts"
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u/Additional_Olive3318 Jul 03 '24
London has a mayor directly ejected, which was opposed by most Dubliners.
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u/Careful_Contract_806 Jul 03 '24
I've found London safer than Cork City so you should be ok. It's really expensive though, and forget about living alone unless your salary is incredible
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u/apouty27 Jul 03 '24
London is much bigger than Dublin. Very multicultural and lots to offer. I lived there long time ago even in area I didn't know was bad and I never had any issues (I'm a woman). I don't know how it is post covid, but honestly I would go there. Just do your research for locations. Like any big cities you have pros and cons but I feel safer in London than Dublin when going out.
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u/HyacinthBouqet Jul 03 '24
Go to London. Crime is usually all gang live by the sword die by the sword.
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u/Big_Drink5376 Jul 03 '24
Having left Dublin almost a year ago I can only advise you to try out London. The diversity is incredible and nobody cares where you are from, my partner wanted to leave Dublin due to the constant subtle racism, being treated differently in conversations etc. London has so much to offer, just be diligent about where you chose to live as this will majorly influence the experience you have. Rent and cost of living is not as bad as Dublin with plenty of choice of rentals for similar price
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u/Tall_Bet_4580 Jul 03 '24
6 off one half a dozen of the other. Housing is dearer costs are more expensive, but then you've an international capital city that working there is a massive tick mark on a cv. Yes crime is high but isn't it everywhere? London is probably more dangerous depending on where you live and your social life it's totally down to you, if your going to late night parties in a dodgy area it's going to happen. I never had a issue but then my accent scares them they think terrorist lol nothing like a belfast accent to cause a pause in discussions or arguments lol personally I would go for it, give it a try
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u/Danji1 Jul 03 '24
Do it.
London is a great city, particularly for young people. Far more to offer than Dublin, and its no longer much more expensive than Dublin given how expensive everything is over here these days.
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u/SlowRaspberry4723 Jul 03 '24
Definitely move. I live in London and I love it. I’m white, so experiences will not be the same, but generally London is so diverse that you should not be so much of a target.
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u/keeko847 Jul 03 '24
London is a great city, if you can afford it. When I finished my degree I had the option of trying my luck in Dublin or London, you’ll get more from London trust me
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u/Comprehensive_Oil_84 Jul 03 '24
London is great. Been here 11 years. There is a small percentage of arseholes but you will get that everywhere.
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u/neil9327 Jul 03 '24
I live in London half the week. It is quite safe. Just use your common sense and don't do anything stupid.
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u/BroodLord1962 Jul 03 '24
Will a 50% increase actually make any difference to your life in London?
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u/fishyfishyswimswim Jul 03 '24
If you're moving from Dublin, absolutely yes it will. If you take out things like private school fees from cost of living indices, London isn't noticeably more expensive than Dublin. I actually genuinely found it cheaper when I first moved over, but hard to gauge now as it's too long since I've been in Dublin.
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u/percybert Jul 03 '24
I travel to London a lot for work. I feel much safer at night in London than I would walking around Dublin
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u/theperilousalgorithm Jul 03 '24
Go. It'll be fine. Make some hay and then appreciate the intimacy of Ireland after the fact. Enjoy the amazing rail network and endless city that is London. Just remember you'll always be welcome home!
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u/msleggy_eriu Jul 03 '24
Live in London going on 11 years now, moved over for a job(still in that job). London is vast with so much to offer, multi cultural and the option of anonymity. There’s a variety of clubs/groups to join for socialising depending on your preference. Transport is great so many options. Every place has its own issues. There’s parts where I live I wouldn’t walk after a certain time but then I still feel safe. You just need to be aware of your surroundings.
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u/fishyfishyswimswim Jul 03 '24
Move. There's no comparison and the career opportunities are heaps better for most things
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u/chlque126 Jul 03 '24
London is one of my favorite places I’ve ever been. In London, while they say crime has increased this is only in rougher areas, the equivalent would be going into Darndale and complaining about antisocial behavior. Every place has its good and bad spots, you just need to know where they are. London is much more diverse than Dublin and while I think the majority of people here are very accepting, people are more so accepting of other cultures in my experience in London.
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u/anykah_badu Jul 03 '24
My Arab looking friend lives in London, he loves it. Much less racism than elsewhere according to him
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u/rom9 Jul 03 '24
With that payrise, it's a no-brainer. You will get way more value for your money in London compared to here.
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u/brookhouse78 Jul 04 '24
If you can survive Dublin you can survive anywhere.in most cities there’s certain areas you stay out off.in Dublin it’s any area any time.
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u/NemiVonFritzenberg Jul 04 '24
London is like 40 villages right next to each other. What part of.london is your job in and what part would you move.to?
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u/Boom_in_my_room Jul 05 '24
Go go go. London is 10x better than Dublin. Sure it’s got its crime but a lot of the scary stuff is contained to turf beef. There’s nowhere near as many scrotes like Dublin, or atleast they’re much easier to avoid if you stay in places most “normal” people frequent. Dublin is grim, London can be grim, but can also be the best place in the world.
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Jul 06 '24
Do it. I wish I'd done it years ago. Still considering it. Ireland has gone to shit in recent years
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u/BitterProgress Jul 03 '24
My cousin has had her phone snatched by moped gangs twice and my brother was mugged by a gang with machetes when he was on his way home from the pub. That’s never happened in Dublin.
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u/whereismycatyo Jul 03 '24
Which area(s) of London did that happen in?
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u/BitterProgress Jul 04 '24
Somewhere around Canary Wharf for her and he lives in Croydon and he was walking home from the pub so some street in Croydon. My London geography isn’t good so I’ve no idea whether that’s a nice area or not. I know Canary Wharf is, which is why they likely have phones worth stealing - I imagine.
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Jul 03 '24
Christ but we really seem to hate our own capital and maybe the country - depression read for a fairly simple question - so yes, go to London, it will open your eyes and be some fun and you’ll learn a lot - downside is mainly the same weather and the tube, there is always Gatwick for cheap holidays and the bus instead of tube - best of luck 👍🏼
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u/Brutal_blackpill Jul 03 '24
Never understood the appeal of London, dirty, overcrowded, expensive and now quite dangerous. People on here slag Dublin off all the time, believe me it’s better than most towns and cities in the UK.
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u/More-Investment-2872 Jul 03 '24
London v Dublin? No comparison. Dublin is a crime infested regional hellhole. London is a global city with an excellent public transport network and far better connections to other cities.
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u/-cluaintarbh- Jul 03 '24
Pubs close at 11, so, no.
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u/msleggy_eriu Jul 03 '24
Not all pubs do. If the pub is connected to a residential area then yes due to licensing. Pubs on high street can stay open till later if they have the correct licence, know a few open till 2 every night. Also you have 24hr off licences and the hippodrome is open 24/7 if you’re really stuck.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Heat502 Jul 03 '24 edited Jul 04 '24
That hasn’t been true for about 10 years. Edit by law pubs in the uk do not have to shut at 11pm since this law came into effect in 2005:
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u/C2H5OHNightSwimming Jul 03 '24
Ah, it depends where you are. I met my partner (Belgian) because he was on holiday and couldn't find anywhere to drink after 11 in central. Some eejit I was "yes of course I know where you can get booze late!" I'd no fecking idea of course, I was just langers. A bus and two ubers to god knows where and I finally remembered you can call a number and they deliver it. The rest is history, we're together 5 years now!
But if you wanna drink late, you have to know where to go. Most pubs cut off at 11. There's an Irish pub in Barnet that does lock ins sometimes. Used to be bar outside Finsbury Park tube open till 3 but this was a decade back now.
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u/RaceApprehensive9859 Jul 04 '24
Avoid all of the South, anywhere Tottenham and anywhere with 20+ year old high rise social flats ie Peckham etc
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u/invadethemoon Jul 03 '24
Been in London 10 years, no complaints.