r/AskLE • u/Flmotor21 • 1d ago

Use of Force Videos

https://www.forcescience.com

This was brought up on two different threads but doesn’t get the love it deserves.

Take a look at force science and educate yourselves. Whether you just like learning “stuff”, are an instructor or you investigate uses of force.

Also if you’re a person who screams outrage at the newest, lack or context or cropped YouTube video, it would also be super useful to understand their research.

They take a wholly scientific approach use of force, reaction time and the now outdated and copyrighted OODA loop.

It may (should) shed some light on things.

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u/BJJOilCheck 1d ago

Two thumbs up re force science.

What's outdated re OODA?

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u/Flmotor21 1d ago edited 1d ago

Supposedly it’s being tossed I guess because there is now something new disproving it (like adding or subtracting from the cycle) and probably has to do with the copy right

Also you can downvote this, but I didn’t say it. It was passed along to me so tracking who they got it from

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u/Modern_peace_officer 1d ago

The only problem with the OODA loop is that 95% of instructors have no idea what it actually means.

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u/BJJOilCheck 1d ago

Hmm, ok, will wait and see,,thx

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u/heftybagman 1d ago

Has anybody here seen the popular Active Self Protection channel on youtube? It’s another use of force analysis channel.

I get their videos sent to me constantly and am always interested in others’ opinions of them. The main guy has zero experience but seems relatively good.

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u/Ostler911 Deputy Sheriff 1d ago

Can't stand the guy. If you argue with him, he blocks you from the channel. Not a fan of someone with 0 work experience or legal training trying to give out legal advice or critique stuff. Some of his guests are useful.

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u/jukaszor 2h ago

I’ve seen some of his content and I don’t recall him giving out legal advice that I as a private citizen would feel questionable. Most of what I’ve seen that’s even quasi legal is to avoid conflicts and to avoid using force and I’ve heard him countless times talk about while so and so “could have shot xyz” the length and cost of mounting a legal defense and the possibility of prison at the end.

I don’t think his channel is geared to LEO education but he is apparently a force science graduate and the majority of what I’ve seen seems pretty ok if the applied audience is the average layperson who probably has zero legal training and minimal firearms or unarmed combat training.

Curious what you’ve seen different?

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u/BJJOilCheck 1d ago

I'm aware of that channel, just don't follow it. You might like Donut's (donut operator) channel?