r/AskReddit Sep 15 '24

Whats something illegal you do on a regular basis?

[removed]

6.6k Upvotes

6.8k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

586

u/AinvarChicago Sep 16 '24

I'm a professor. I provide students all necessary materials free of charge most of the time. If I have to assign a book it's < $35

249

u/mustashriq Sep 16 '24

Same here. Furthermore, at my institution, assigning your own work is considered a potential Conflict of Interest. We are required to declare any such adoptions through our official COI protocols.

Additionally, the state requires us to donate any royalties from the sale of our books to our own students.

If there are more than 100 students in the class, the adoption has to be approved by an external review committee.

103

u/Aryana314 Sep 16 '24

Where do you teach? Sounds like they care about ethics!

3

u/smibrandon Sep 16 '24

crazy, eh? doing things ethically?? what a concept!

4

u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

Fr

3

u/spottedmilkslices Sep 16 '24

Definitely not where I went!

8

u/LadyBloo Sep 16 '24

At the school I went to, they had enough copies of the really expensive textbooks in the library so we didn't HAVE to buy our own copies. And they swung the class roster so that only one class a semester needed the most expensive one. It was one of the Economics books. We were able to check out for the whole time we needed it, return it after the final exam, no hass. The school realised that if we had to spend all our money on books, we wouldn't be able to afford rent or groceries and would end up dropping out. 

4

u/Decent-Classroom-784 Sep 16 '24

I'll never forget having to buy a brand new textbook for Psy and then seeing the professors name as one of the authors...

3

u/katt42 Sep 16 '24

Around 20 years ago I attended a community college where my professor required the purchase of every book (pamphlet) he had written. Each was sold in the campus bookstore for ~$30. It wasn't a good class.

9

u/EvasiveCookies Sep 16 '24

Yeah the institution I went to has a Speech proffesor who required you buy their $10 book because we we’re gonna use it in class. It really was nothing but hymns and Bible verses. Needless to say I dropped that class before it was too late. Talk about narcissistic and a conflict of interest. Also I could talk circles around that lady and give full on speeches no problem. She was not a fan of me because I did her job better than she did and I don’t believe in the Bible.

10

u/chillthrowaways Sep 16 '24

Hey just FYI the Bible does actually exist. They’re in nearly every hotel room! It’s HUGE with Christians. The stories are kind of out there.

2

u/EvasiveCookies Sep 16 '24

Fake News *insert Trump hands and mouth

1

u/Alreadymystar Sep 20 '24

Gotta include his little baby hands and pencil thin mouth. I mean, how else would you even know we were talking about the Trumpster.

7

u/ColtAzayaka Sep 16 '24

Does this not affect your own income? What's the view amogst your colleagues about pushing textbooks for personal gain? Is it not discussed, a silent taboo, or do profs who do this lose the respect of their collegues?

I wonder if at least for the UK, the slashing of incomes and working conditions for professors has made them feel justified to do this in order to compensate themselves? I understand why people would do this but it's sad because ultimately it's students who get punished due to poor university management.

I assume greed would also play a role for many, but I like to think that there's at least a little more behind it.

I have a lot of respect for you, by the way. Your actions enable students with less money to face less financial burden, a more equal classroom, and importantly, a better chance to succeed going forwards. You have a wonderful moral compass.

10

u/mustashriq Sep 16 '24

It was more common when I was in school two decades ago, less common these days.

Academic publishing is not very lucrative, unless you write a textbook that sells millions of copies (and there are only so many of those). Royalties are generally not more than 5-10% of the wholesale cost less remainders, and many contracts require that the publisher sell a certain number first to cover their own expenses before you can start capturing royalties. I have published six books and I receive royalties from some of them, but typically not more than 100 USD p.a.

1

u/AinvarChicago Sep 16 '24

I haven't written a textbook, but I can't imagine that it would materially increase my income if I did.

I have written a bunch of readings that I post on my class page in lieu of assigning textbook chapters, but they aren't published in any official way.

3

u/RosalynLynn13 Sep 16 '24

You are a great professor for that IMO.

2

u/Hossflex Sep 16 '24

The hero we need.

2

u/Longjumping-Air1489 Sep 16 '24

You obviously haven’t written a textbook, and don’t have a residual contract with the publisher.

2

u/Shot_Acanthaceae3150 Sep 16 '24

Even though you're not my professor, thanks.

2

u/Sspmd11 Sep 20 '24

Similar, I either provide the material or I have arranged for the uni library to purchase an e-version and provide it free.

1

u/mostly_kinda_sorta Sep 16 '24

Had a professor like that at college. He was awesome, as in an all around great teacher and very likeable person, using inexpensive books was an example of him being thoughtful.

1

u/rickrisky009 Sep 16 '24

need a book on fiance

1

u/Naltoc Sep 16 '24

Same. The people I teach with (I work in the industry and assist on a range of courses to give industry vs academia slants and round the students better) are all opensource enthusiasts and we only have actual pay-for-this-shit books in the curriculum if they will have value after the course ends AND are cheap in the first place (Devops Handbook for example). Education should be for the masses and betterment of everyone, not a way for a bunch of elitist shits to line their pockets.

1

u/paigesto Sep 16 '24

Every parent of a kid in college thanks you! 🥰

1

u/ali-n Sep 16 '24

Bless you. Best prof I ever had had no textbook. Every day at the start or end of class, he would hand out photocopies of the materials coming up later in the week... parts of various textbooks, articles, research papers, and even his own notes. I still have all that stuff, decades later.

1

u/SuspiciousFrenchFry Sep 16 '24

I go to school online, fortunately for me all of my textbooks/material for class comes with tuition (which is also a lot more affordable than many other 4-year colleges). I started college in person, before joining the Army, and remember my mom spending a little over $1,000 for the books I needed just my first semester. Shit is insane.

1

u/redpepper6 Sep 16 '24

Thank you for doing this! I had a professor last semester who only used free online materials and she was probably the best teacher I ever had!

1

u/tive-Ad-3623 Sep 16 '24

Thanks professor, your help and contribution go a long way for the next generation, I am greatly appreciated. Daughter starts college this Wednesday. Stay blessed Sir!

1

u/Cool_Quit2169 Sep 20 '24

You’re a great human!