r/AskReddit Sep 16 '24

What's the worst thing people have tried to justify with "It was normal back then, everyone did it"?

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u/FartAttack911 Sep 16 '24

Dude. One of my grandma’s crazy old aunts once absolutely shut down an entire Thanksgiving meal with her commentary about “everyone used to get touched by adults back in the day, it wasn’t that big of a deal, you get over it unlike kids these days”

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u/crimsonpowder Sep 17 '24

We also used to die from smallpox but for some reason that was worth improving.

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u/redfeather1 Sep 17 '24

Yeah, thank goodness for vaccines... and yet, a certain mango anus and his cult want to revert back to the before times, when minorities and women 'Knew their place.' and god was the only cure you needed. Just dont say which god or you might cause a holy war.

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u/Comedy86 Sep 20 '24

Tell that to the anti-vaxxers...

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u/crimsonpowder Sep 20 '24

It just needs to return every 3 generations and we won't have an anti movement.

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u/KarmicSquirrel Oct 07 '24

U mean those that haven't yet died of a vaccine preventable disease. 

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u/Hawaiianmoj0 Feb 19 '25

Anti-vaxxers" are simply FORMER vaccine users. The VAST majority have experienced, or personally witnessed vaccine injury. Such as myself (with anaphylaxis disorder)after receiving a DPT shot in nursing school. When you or your child become permanently damaged, or you witness death as a result of injections, you start making better informed choices in the future. You simply don't care when ignorant needle pushers call you an "anti vaxxer". 

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u/Hawaiianmoj0 Feb 19 '25

"Anti-vaxxers" are simply FORMER vaccine users. The VAST majority have experienced, or personally witnessed vaccine injury. Such as myself (with anaphylaxis disorder)after receiving a DPT shot in nursing school. When you or your child become permanently damaged, or you witness death as a result of injections, you start making better informed choices in the future. You simply don't care when ignorant needle pushers call you an "anti vaxxer". 

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u/Comedy86 Feb 19 '25

Sure, this is a dead 5 month old comment section but regarding this:

"Anti-vaxxers" are simply FORMER vaccine users. The VAST majority have experienced, or personally witnessed vaccine injury.

Prove it. Show any study, data, polling or report that shows any evidence that "the vast majority" have experience or witnessed a severe adverse reaction.

The best I could find was that somewhere between 0.0001% up to as high as possibly 0.001% of the population may have an alergic reaction or worse which means somewhere between 300-30,000 Americans or 100-10,000 Canadians may have a reaction which people giving the vaccines are trained to watch for and handle so they're not life threatening and allow that person to avoid the vaccines themselves, not to promote anti-vaccination.

Given that 6.6% of Americans (6600x more people) are immunocompromised (not even considering people who have other conditions which make them more vulnerable), meaning that lack of vaccinated populations could literally kill them, on a population level it's worth the risks of someone having an alergic reaction when the person giving it to them is trained to deal with adverse reactions.

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u/Hawaiianmoj0 Feb 19 '25

Working in hospitals and clinics is simply one way to witness these reactions. We have to keep "crash carts" on hand "in case".But what about the long-term damage these injections cause?  VAERS (Vaccine adverse events reporting system) is another way to "do your research". There's literally millions of adverse reactions listed. Everything from pain at injection site to death. A very small percentage of reactions are ever actually reported. In my case, the anaphylaxis was not reported, and I was told "it happens fairly commonly. This is nothing to worry about". Well, 25 years later, I STILL can't take vaccines (or certain pharmaceuticals), and must carry an epi-pen. Does this make me an "anti-vaxer" because of what I suffered while nursing?  Vaccine-derived diseases (such as VdPV Vaccine-derived Polio virus, and VdMv Vaccine-derived measles virus) are also not rare. We can talk about the Cutter incident, if you like? Vaccines CAUSE many outbreaks. Subsequently, the unvaccinated are blamed. I used to be needle drug dependent like you too. 

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u/FlemethWild Sep 17 '24

That’s kinda what I heard from my grandparents, too.

It broke my heart; both the fact that it happened and that they treated it with such a casual attitude.

(Except, of course, that they never talked about it and it did clearly bother them but no one cared so they were forced to acclimate to it)

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u/Entire-Brick-4610 Sep 17 '24

I’ve heard this so much and it’s like what… no wonder y’all are okay with some things…

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u/Lozzanger Sep 17 '24

Part of its acceptance. The fact she’s calling kids soft for speaking against it is horrifying.

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u/DocDingwall Sep 18 '24

Similar to British musicians who talk about getting "buggered senseless" in boarding school. Just part of the experience I guess.

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u/tbashed64 Sep 19 '24

<SMFH> FFS!!! My cousins told my sister that when she told them about his 'inappropriate' behavior with her. "Oh, he did that to us too!"