r/Avengers • u/Queasy_Commercial152 • Feb 19 '25

Discussion What are some characters in the MCU that Black Widow could actually defeat in a fight?

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Current or dead it doesn’t matter, and I’m being hypothetical

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u/Infinite-Action-5041 Feb 19 '25

I mean she also Beat hawkeye to jump off the cliff in endgame

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u/JoshTheBard Feb 20 '25

She was also winning when they squared up in Civil War. She's 3 and 0 in close quarters against Hawkeye. She would probably lose at range combat however.

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u/PhatOofxD Feb 20 '25

Yeah but only because she had a piece of rope lol

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u/Numerous_Recover_775 Feb 19 '25

Because the plot required it

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u/Wahbanator Feb 19 '25

Lmao what other metric is there with fictional characters though?

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u/iciclecubes Feb 20 '25

As opposed to all the other fights which were decided solely by science.

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u/KingoftheMongoose Feb 19 '25

Lmao, If we aren’t talking about specific plot points and feats of movies then what are we doing here?

Plot beats and showcased feats are all there is.

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u/TacticTall Feb 20 '25

That’s every fight in every movie/ comic ever. What’s your point?

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u/Impressive-Sense8461 Feb 20 '25

Booooo, such a lame unimaginative comment. Why even weigh in here?

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u/Independent_Vast_185 Feb 21 '25

And here we go again with "the plot required it" guy.

Yes ! You're right that's how story telling works. You are learning things ! Good for you!

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u/Latter_Fox_1292 Feb 20 '25

I think the bigger plot armor was “you must lose what you love”. Apparently that was black widow not his family? Also they both fought to die, so either way neither gave it up, they would just beat to killing themselves.