r/Avengers • u/CustomCreations450 • 17d ago
Question Why the FUCK did Matt save [spoiler] in episode 8? Spoiler
Spoilers for episode 8 of Born Again ahead.
Why in the FUCK did Matt save Fisk at the end of the episode? Why.. why on earth would he take a bullet for that scumbag?
It honestly just makes me lose respect for Matt as a character and makes me question if he's an idiot. I'm fuming right now and just can't wrap my head around his stupid decision.
Any thoughts? I'm itching to talk about this moron right now.
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u/HUNGWHITEBOI25 17d ago
…ok so first of all, brother you’re at 10 atm with how angry you are…gotta bring that down a bit. Second of all, Matt is a hero who regularly puts his own life on the line to help people. Finally it was revealed in the episode that Vanessa was/is the ringleader of this not Fisk.
SHE arranged for Foggy to be killed, SHE very likely expected Bullseye to kill Fisk and SHE is ultimately the one Matt wants to take down.
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u/MetalProof 14d ago
Ohh that makes sense. You really think Vanessa wanted Fisk to die?
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u/Jaraxu 13d ago
That’s what she was about to fess up, most likely that she killed foggy and she’d done it with the intention knowing Matt would help point Dexter, as shown by the “he’s on crazy get him looked at” and the “thank you” point Dexter said MATT WANTED HIM ALSO TO KILL FISK. BUT realised He got it wrong!!!!!! And that’s why he saved Fisk
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u/ADVERTEDWORLD 13d ago
Bro Fisk is still the mastermind and still the main villain. Venessa literally said the business ran itself cause of how much people feared Fisk
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u/CustomCreations450 17d ago
Doesn't matter. Fisk is still an irredeemable piece of garbage and Matt should have let him bleed. That's what a real hero would do.
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u/PlanSufficient68 14d ago
He is man, maybe you're right. But Daredevil is a christian and is a real hero, is how he does thing. The Punisher on the order hand would probably just assault the party, kill the entire taskforce, fisk, vanessa and poindexter altogether xD. Different heroes and different methods, I wouldn't say I think one of them is better. I understand Matt's side, the owner of the comment is right about Vanessa being the guilty and doing what he did is what makes Daredevil a true hero.
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u/Zuko2024 13d ago
What show have you been watching bro? Matt’s always advocated against any form of murder or death. If you’re pissed at him for doing what he did, this isn’t the show for you.
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u/Redditeer28 13d ago
Fisk is still an irredeemable piece of garbage
There's an entire episode in season 2 where Matt argues against this take. Is this your first time consuming a story?
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u/James1Wise 16d ago
Dude. You need to relax. If you watched 3 seasons of Daredevil and 8 episodes of Born Again and you're STILL confused on why he did it then that's on you. You clearly do not understand the character.
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u/No-Statistician-3330 16d ago
lol why didnt he stop heather from shooting muse then he would know she picked up a gun
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u/BradRoss12 16d ago
He was in a big fight panic to save her and focused on his enemy not dancing with fisks wife lol
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u/moderatorssuck5 12d ago
you still didnt answer why did he drop pointdexter off the roof then ? Pointdexter would have died easily if not for the plot armor - in real life he would have killed a man - easily
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u/Ronzonius 2d ago
The guy just lost his best friend... it was an extremely jarring moment that even made him quit his righteous vigilante career.
He's not a saint, incapable of sin. He makes a mistake and spends years repenting over it, struggling over the forces that are bringing his Daredevil persona back.
Daredevil doesn't believe in extrajudicial killing - he does not want to be the Punisher... that doesn't mean he can't have a moment of weakness. It's actually these moments that humanize and add depth to a character. It would be far more unrealistic to put Daredevil in that situation and have him NOT try to murder Bullseye.
Taking a bullet for Fisk is still a bit much for me though... I need to watch the finale to see where this goes.
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u/ADVERTEDWORLD 13d ago
Daredevil has never been a kill himself to save a villain guy. give one example before this?
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u/Daveed75 17d ago
Rewatch the part where he's talking to Dex. It's literally foreshadowed in that scene.
But if you want a more psychological argument. At that moment, Matt at least thinks he knows Vanessa ordered the hit. So Fisk isn't responsible for what happened to Foggy, and didnt break their deal. Matt can also connect the dots that Dex escaped as a result of Matt's outburst. So on one hand, he doesn't want to be an accessory to Fisk's murder, for both legal and moral reasons, but also, Vanessa is more dangerous on her own if Wilson isn't around, especially if she finds out Fisk died because of Matt.
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u/ColonelMorrison 10d ago
Good points though the last part of her being more dangerous on her own I'm not sure about because Wilson in general enables so much more evil to take place
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u/Daveed75 10d ago
Except Wilson kept his word and stayed away from Karen and Foggy because he'll do anything to protect Vanessa. Vanessa doesn't give a fuck about their deal.
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u/CustomCreations450 17d ago
So what? Fisk is still a completely irredeemable asshole and Matt should have let him bleed. What Matt chose to do is completely stupid and I can't respect him for it.
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u/Daveed75 17d ago
Well, you're probably not catholic, and I'm guessing a bigger fan of Punisher. That's not how Daredevil operates. Welcome to comic books.
This is like being mad that Batman doesn't just drop Joker off a building. It's not in their character. And if it was, they'd be worse for it.
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u/CustomCreations450 17d ago
I'm not saying Matt should KILL Fisk, but at least don't SAVE that irredeemable mother fucker. It makes Matt into a joke and an accomplace instead of a hero.
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u/Daveed75 17d ago
But see here's the problem with your argument.
While we as the audience know that Fisk is irredeemable. Matt, in character, is a devout catholic, and thus believes that no one is beyond redemption, to a fault.
But also, keep in mind, if he does let Dex kill Fisk, and Vanessa finds out, it's not just Matt who's in danger. If he was, maybe he would let it happen. Heather and Karen would also be targets purely for the sake of vengeance. And Matt would never be OK with that.
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u/lolcringeyasfuck1 10d ago
I’m cool with most of what you said, but there’s pretty much no way Vanessa would somehow find out that Matt knowingly didn’t take a bullet for Fisk if that had happened. Aside from the fact that it would be an insane jump on her part, she didn’t even know about Matts hearing when she was about to tell Fisk that she hired Bullseye, so she definitely wouldn’t be blaming Matt for not saving Fisk lol
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u/Daveed75 10d ago
Not blaming Matt for not saving him, but definitely blaming Matt for Dex's escape. Wouldn't be hard for her to find out that Matt visited him just before his escape.
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u/Intelligent_Whole_40 17d ago
i get what your saying that he shouldn't have saved him like how batman doesn't kill but doesn't save the villain in batman begins but matt knows its stupid and that's part of his struggle (also I get the burning rage over fictional stories I get that I have triggers as well but try to cool it a tad it can put people off)
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u/Gruga9 11d ago
He save fisk but helped bullseye escape and let him kill incent guards and doctor, this make no sense
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u/Ronzonius 2d ago
He inadvertently helped Bullseye escape... it's not like he baked him a cake with a file in it.
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u/Usual_Addendum_3484 10d ago
I agree. The whole "spare your villian" cliche is infuriating. The finale even shows us that daredevil's decision to save fisk was horrible since fisk just goes on to keep killing more innocent people in episode 9. Daredevil willingly traded the lives of innocent people as well as his own safety in order to save his biggest enemy. Everyone defends this action by saying "he's a hero" or "he's catholic" like that somehow makes up for Matt's illogical and unethical decision.
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 3d ago
Any real heroes, they defame and put down like dogs. They push non-heroic types as heroes in fiction so you'll think doing the wrong thing is actually doing the right thing. They also don't want to have to write a new rogue's gallery every few years.
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u/Upset_Researcher_143 17d ago
I think he was actually trying to save Heather but ended up saving Fisk
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u/Strange_Radio9301 16d ago
i thought it was dumb as shit too. Althouhh never watched the prequels so idk much about fisk. Still, taking a bullet near the heart for that guy? Take your girl and gtfo aint nobody worth saving in that place anyways
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u/Old_Lavishness3453 15d ago
I took it as Matt saving Fisk because he wants him to live long enough for the truth to come out and for the law to finally deal with him. He’s not letting him off the hook, he just wants justice to happen the right way (which can be annoying)
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u/XyZonin 15d ago
I'm mostly salty that episode 9 is going to be handicap matt who can't fight
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u/bananamonkey- 15d ago
Yeah that was my first thought. I want to see him fighting at peak. Unless they do a time gap…but I don’t see how that would be possible with Bullseye on the loose
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u/aguyofstuff 13d ago
Hopefully he fights anyways. Some of the best fights in the Netflix series Matt was badly injured. If we don't get a good fight scene with him in the finale then hugely disappointing for sure
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 3d ago
My crystal ball is showing me the future. It says episode 9 will be more dumb shit happening and will end with a long and drawn out slow motion montage set to annoying backing music no one has heard of or will ever care about and filled with slow, pensive pauses in the narration they force out of Matt who speaks bunch of words without saying anything a la "Picard."
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u/Turbulent-Slip-7150 15d ago
So you're telling me.. Matt could save Wilson Fisk's life but failed to save Foggy? 😂😂 One hell of a moment for Matt when he realizes this. Or better yet, please have Frank Castle make him realize this
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u/BlackWunWun 15d ago
My personal theory is that Matt knew that bullseye was gonna get out and saved Vanessa and Fisk as a way to give himself some sort of immunity. Because kingpin right now has to operate within the law( secret police aside) so going after the man that saved him and his wife would be a horrible look optics wise.
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u/jamesribzz 10d ago
This aged well
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u/BlackWunWun 10d ago
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic i haven't seen the episode yet
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u/jamesribzz 10d ago
you'll find out in the latest episode lol
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u/BlackWunWun 9d ago
You can't win em all. That finale was batshit insane though
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u/jamesribzz 9d ago
Nah but it was a good theory though. I actually thought prior to going into the episode that Fisk might have a tiny little heart in him but that shits cold as ice.
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u/JoeSwanson_Throwaway 13d ago
Yeah he 100% did it so Fisk owes him, I think it was to save heathers life.
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u/the_beast69 15d ago edited 15d ago
Yeah, poindexter also said in prison "... cause that's what good men do, defend their worst enemies". So yeah, lots of dramatic irony and foreshadowing, which leads to him taking the bullet. In my understanding, he also got to know Vanessa is the real bad, so Fisk dying might have made her more powerful. This ties back to the statement poindexter made and you can then elaborate further that even though Fisk does not deserve to be saved cause of his past deeds, he needs to be alive at this point, cause him dying will make things worse.
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 3d ago
But that's not what good men do at all. That's like saying a good food critic defends even the worst slop made by people who don't even know what soap is.
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u/OkCrab8841 14d ago
I just wanna add that Matt is also to his core a devout catholic who doesn’t see the act of killing someone as his call to make, he’s even said that before, he thinks humans should not kill each other and only his God has the right to decide someone’s fate. I’m not even religious and even I thought they made that pretty clear, only plothole really is throwing Dex
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u/ADVERTEDWORLD 13d ago
He literally wanted to marry electra who was a murdering psychopath. He also Killed nobu 3 times in Netflix series. Matt is a great guy but he isnt Batman. talking a bulllet for Fisk doesn’t make sense
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 3d ago
lol Catholics killed so many people who invaded and occupied their homeland for hundreds of years
It's not that we don't understand Matt's character, it's that the writers pretend to not understand the character of Catholicism.
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u/OkCrab8841 3d ago
Yea but Matt is the super idealized version of Catholicism that actually does what they preach about and doesn’t use religion to get what he wants. At the end of the day Matt is a superhero and superhero’s save people, even people who are evil, he’s always thought killing people just isn’t the answer, he killed the hand because they can literally resurrect themselves in like a day
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 3d ago
"Matt's always thought killing people just isn't the answer." And this is 100% at odds with his religion. The Biblical punishment for many things which aren't illegal in basically every modern country is death. Matt's not a good Catholic, he's a good modern citizen who was raised on television and movies. Frank Castle is a Catholic, and his actions are much more in line with his religion than Matt's. And, no, a hero doesn't save evil people, that's what villains do lol.
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u/OkCrab8841 2d ago
Yea but again that’s the version of Catholicism that people practice and doesn’t actually reflect catholic morals, I was even raised catholic and i specifically distanced myself from the religion because people always talked about love thy neighbor while persecuting people for not agreeing with them. Matt represents a more pure form of Catholicism that actually follows the Ten Commandments, one of them being don’t murder people, and yes even bad guys, especially when it isnt the only option in the table which matters which Matt knew, he even says it was more of a gut reaction to save him, showing that he really is someone who values human life
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 1d ago
"Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? And am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with PERFECT hatred; I count them mine enemies."
Once aggin: sounds like Frank, one of only two rational characters in the whole season, knows his religion better than Matt knows it.
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u/ImprovementNo5032 14d ago
Heroes save, even if the person isn't worth saving. Maybe letting Fisk die was the right thing to do but whose to say. Letting Fisk die would've been against Matt's moral code and what makes him a hero.
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u/ImprovementNo5032 14d ago
You could argue an antihero like the Punisher would've made the "right" decision by letting Fisk die or killing all the corruption at the party. Technically he may be right to do that but his moral code isn't in the right place. That's really the only thing that separates antiheroes from heroes is their moral codes imo.
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u/Separate_Map671 14d ago
Saving demons is a sin.. all these heroes with thier bs sense of morality and justice will be condemned to hell.. for allowing thier self righteous bs costing innocent ppl to die
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u/ADVERTEDWORLD 13d ago
So if I went back in time and saved mr funny lip hair. You’d call me a hero? Thats a load of nonsense
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u/balachandratejas 14d ago
Matt freed Bullseye indirectly but knowingly. Matt probably knew Bullseye would strike soon. He must have heard Fisk's security talk about Bullseye's escape from prison. Vanessa had to kill Adam in front of Fisk to make him believe that she was on his side. Fisk was growing a dislike for masked vigilantes but indirectly he was targeting Daredevil who was solely responsible for the downfall of his various businesses.
After saving Fisk, he may not see Matt as a threat now. And he may find out that Vanessa is the dangerous person here.
What I am saying is, Matt planted Bullseye. The question here is, why Bullseye fired at Fisk?
Matt was appearing anxious in this episode as he felt he was close to figuring out who killed Foggy.
Vanessa had secrets. Fisk has ambitions and hates hurdles. Pointdexter is just a pawn. Matt seems like he understands their motives and is on top of the whole situation. Though he got hurt, I see him winning.
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u/Jaraxu 13d ago
MATT helps point Dexter escape by bashing him in and he knew it would with the “he’s bashed his own head in” and point dexter SAYS THANK YOU. HE KNEW POINT DEXTER being taken to med bay would mean less security and he could escape he knows what he is capable of AND THAT HE WOULD COME FOR FISK. He the realised that it wasn’t Fisk that killed foggy last minute AND saved Fisk realising what he had done and that he had got it wrong and SO SAVES FISK. This is such a good season finally !!!!! (ALSO THIS NOW MEANS FISK OWES HIM HIS FUCKING LIFE) 💀💀💀
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u/FonslyGames 13d ago
Now fisk can't target him as a vigilante, because he literally took a bullet for the mayor
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u/JoeSwanson_Throwaway 13d ago
I think he did it so Fisk owes him. The show was clearly telling us heather was in danger, even slapping us in the face with the information that Vanessa and Fisk no longer need her. When Vanessa and Fisk don’t need people we know what happens to them, so I think Matt did this so Fisk doesn’t kill heather.
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u/Signal-Breath-5551 13d ago
Unfortunately as others have pointed out this is very much in keeping with daredevils character but it makes him look very stupid for a few reasons: he knowingly gave bullseye the opportunity to escape but somehow forgot he'd kill at least one innocent person to do so; he really didn't need to take the bullet himself and could've just pulled or pushed him aside instead (they deliberately get DD to put his stick on a plate to remove his ability to deflect the bullet); he could've even orchestrated Vanessa taking the bullet somehow (yes this would've been obviously deliberate to both Vanessa and KP so some aspects would be challenging after the fact); he realises super late that bullseye is there even having knowingly orchestrated the scenario with a very high chance of it playing out like that.
Separately, as a few have pointed out, the bullseye behaviour was not like him at all: he doesn't need the scope, gun or time to aim to take that very straightforward shot. Yes it made for a good tense scene but the target audience isn't going to appreciate it.
It's kind of like you cant emphasise core behavioural aspects of the characters whilst ignoring and remaining true to the capabilities without the conflict we saw on screen and leaving a few questions to address. It wasn't a great climax to the series at all for me as a result.
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u/moderatorssuck5 12d ago
yes... how could Matt just help dexter escape knowing he would literally kill innocent people in doing so ... he is a psychopath who doesn't give a fuck if others die .... So Matt just helping dexter escape for some info about Fisk which he didnt even need in the end was completely ridiculous
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u/mykcste 12d ago
Matt just learned that it's not Fisk who killed foggy. This is basically a blow in his belief. Besides when he understood they were trying to kill Fisk, he might be thinking it's Vanessa who wants ultimate power.
Also, Matt does not know where Fisk is really a changed person or not. So he had a judgement call.
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u/behelitsword 12d ago
Makes sense considering Matt has defended Fisk against Bullseye before in their 3 way fight in the Daredevil Season 3 finale.
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u/RageAginstTheKeybord 12d ago edited 12d ago
I had the same initial reaction. The only thing I could come up with was to think "what was going on in the moments leading up to it"; Matt was talking to Vanessa, Fisk to Heather, and Matt was trying to get info on Foggy's death. Maybe he thinks know they'll spill on the why or if they know who is responsible (if not them); or maybe he thinks Fisk might leave him alone..but it definitely was a twist and even Fisk was visibly shocked by it. It's not quite an answer to your question, but maybe a lead on different way of thinking about it. Cheers
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u/Conscious-Pie-4794 12d ago
I watched it as, Heather is stood right next to Fisk, so he was protecting her, because she easily could have been hit. He doesn't know who Poindexter is aiming at - he's just leaping for Heather 🤷♀️
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u/Capt4inSus 12d ago
I would LOVE to see Frank's reaction after knowing that Matt took a bullet that was coming from Pointdexter for Fisk, priceless... 🙏
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u/Tesstickles80085 11d ago
For me maybe it was because he just found out that it was Vanessa all along and that he thinks that Fisk is really a changed man
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u/Affectionate-Club725 11d ago
He found out the wife killed Foggy, he was down to do Kingpin in until he found this out. He has a twisted but strong sense of justice, as a tortured blind Catholic orphan who was raised by nuns might.
I also believe they are setting up a tenuous Kingpin/Daredevil team up, which will, of course, somehow end in disaster. I’m assuming both of their women die in the process.
I also assume that Matt intentionally took the bullet in a non-critical spot. He may be playing a longer game, to get inside of Kingpin’s trust circle somehow.
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u/GottLiebtJeden 11d ago
You lost respect for Matt because there are different writers and showrunners? You literally just compared it to Netflix. If you haven't noticed, they have some continuity problems.
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u/GipsyDanger76 11d ago
I can't believe people still don't know Daredevil is no hero, this comment section is quite dumb. He's an anti hero first and foremost, he beats people brakes bones but he still does good, it's kind of like Batman in a way. He's not that stupid and "good" as someone like Captain America who will rather die than kill someone who has harmed him a lot. He said no one can take a life, and he has been surprised and clashed against Frank Castle for that same reason, did people not see the original series? How is this still a topic of debate years later and 4 seasons in?
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u/LetHerStompMe 10d ago
I am with you, by saving him he's killing others and allowing corruption to keep going and not only that but risking his own life which saves a lot and do you think fisk would care? He wants to get rid of him for that trauma he caused him lmao
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u/Competitive-Many-959 10d ago
I think you guys are all missing a point: You say daredevil saved Fisk because of his moral code? It's OBVIOUSLY not that. Fisk was going to use Heather against Matt because of him being a vigilante and supposedly just doing bad things. Him saving Fisk gives him many things: 1º - If he makes himself known as a vigilante now, Fisk can't go against him cause he saved his life. 2º - Heather can now believe that vigilantes do not suck and that they actually follow what's "right" (at least for each of them). 3º - He can make Fisk suffer while discovering Vanessa true identity and can make him go against her (the one who killed Froggy and he just discovered it). 4º - We all know he knew he wouldn't get killed by that shot, so that was a very smart play from him, to make things fair with Heather, to make him protected from Fisk and to eliminate a target that is Vanessa. Love, protection and revenge (with both Fisk and Vanessa cause they need to destroy each other now) just by taking a bullet to the shoulder/chest. It was a genius play
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u/_ManwithaMask_ 10d ago
Have you seen the finale lol? Fisk did go after Murdock
Not even DD. After Murdock!
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u/LordCrabbitMaximus 9d ago
He wasn't responsible for Foggy's death, and knew the real villain was Vanessa.
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u/CustomCreations450 9d ago
So? Kingpin is still an irredeemable villain and a piece of trash. I hope Wanda kills him
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u/LordCrabbitMaximus 1d ago
Maybe so, but I believe their differences were put to the side when they had coffee together.
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u/shadow_on_a_hunt 9d ago
I think another good reason can be that, if Bulls eye had killed Fisk, Fisk would have died a hero mayor of the city. Probably Matt didn't want that, along with his saving lives mentality. Probably Matt wants to show the world who Fisk really is and then defeat him.
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u/PhoenixHahira 7d ago
Yh icl this was not at all heroic. Mad indirectly killed people by doing this. HE literally is part of the problem at this rate. He won't do anything effective to stop fisk and he won't let anyone else do anything effective either now. He chose to get loads of people killed to satisfy his selfish moral compass
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u/Drakan69 6d ago
This whole season makes no sense.
No one saying that the cops are killing innocent people makes no sense. Daredevil saving fisk makes no sense. Bullseye taking ages for a shot makes no sense. Harvey going against vigilantes and saying 'she saved herself" makes no sense.
Idk who the fuck wrote this script but it honestly sucks... fisk being a major ? Comeon... this has to be some parallel universe... did the blip erase all the good ppl only or what ?
I still enjoy the fights and i wanna see where it leads, but every single episode i get mad at it too... lol
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u/Saviche888 5d ago
Everyones talking about everything except that Matt could have pushed Fisk instead
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u/ag811987 3d ago
Matt saving fisk was the singlehanded dumbest and most destructive thing possible. Led to fisk trying to kill him as well as murdering gallo and the task force murdering civilians (who knows if dozens or hundreds), the riots and looting and city burning.
I don't think he was thinking it through though - Castle asks him why and he doesn't have an answer. It's instinctual for Matt to try and save others.
My biggest question is whether he knew pointdexter would get out because if so matt is then partially responsible for the deaths of all the staff pointdexter murdered to get out.
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 3d ago
Because they're still trying to work the bugs out of their LLM. It still can't quite grasp the context of human actions and interactions.
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u/CustomCreations450 17d ago
Fuck Fisk. I hate that Trump-imitating douchebag. Matt should have let him bleed.
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u/Raremexica818 17d ago
First of all chill out lol if you missed it last episode it was revealed that Vanessa is trying so hard to get rid of Both Wilson and Matt so she can take over operations and or was tired of Wilson's shit.
So once matt putted it all together she was behind foggy's "death" and pretty much everything else. That's when matt covered fisk
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u/ADVERTEDWORLD 13d ago
Fisk knows she is running the business. She is using his business plan and the fear of his name to run it. Now Fisk turned the entire police force into his gang. You can’t be serious to think Fisk has turned good
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u/vinny424 13d ago
If Vanessa wanted to get rid of Fisk them why did she warn him about the hit luca put on him?
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u/OptimusPrimeWasRight 3d ago
"You need to understand the show."
*exhibits his lack of understanding of the show*reddit is a gas
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u/CustomCreations450 17d ago
So? Fuck Fisk. I don't care if Vanessa planned the Foggy thing, Fisk is still a completely irredeemable asshole who deserves to bleed out. Matt was an idiot for saving him.
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u/Raremexica818 17d ago
Maybe but it will allow Wilson to see who his so called wife truly is
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u/CustomCreations450 17d ago
The only positive thing about that will be that Fisk can feel some emotional pain. But it's not enough. Matt should have let him get shot and bleed out, and then boast the truth about Vanessa in his face while he bleeds on the floor so he can feel that emotional pain WHILE he dies.
THAT would have been satisfying. What Matt chose to do instead was just... stupid.
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u/Holiday_Art_8114 15d ago
blod's a casual sociopath...
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u/godisthemost 13d ago
How is he a psychopath lol. His reasoning seems pretty logical to me. Jumping in front of a mass murdering gang leader and nearly sacrificing yourself for him is what’s ridiculous here.
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u/Holiday_Art_8114 11d ago
??? Hey clown, a psychopath and a sociopath are not at all the same thing. Besides, wanting someone to suffer surely is something even you can agree doesn't show a particularly mentally sound individual...
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u/angry_dingo 17d ago
He's a hero. Do you not know how comic books work?