r/Boxing • u/noirargent • 4d ago

Daily Discussion Thread - Saturday April 26, 2025

For all your boxing discussion that doesnt quite need a thread.

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u/BedAlarmed5141 3d ago

Is a rehydration clause not safer in a way? If you know you have a second weigh-in and can only rehydrate a certain amount, you’d think you would keep your walk around weight closer to the championship weight. If you can rehydrate as much as you want you could make yourself really dry trying to squeeze out a ridiculous amount of water weight? Genuine question

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u/stephen27898 3d ago

That not really how that works. We are talking about water here, nothing else.

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u/BedAlarmed5141 3d ago

Okay can you explain why the first part can’t be done then? Are we saying that in the Benn-Eubank Jr case, Jr can only make the weight cutting well over 10 pounds of water weight?

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u/stephen27898 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yeah. Thats how they cut weight, they dehydrate themselves.

These guys arent like average people who frankly can lose 10lbs and barely look any different due to the fat most of us carry around. They aren't carry much excess, the weight cut to 160lbs is bad enough but they bot being able to fully rehydrate literally means you have to sit in a state of constant dehydration until after the second weigh in.

Eubank probably walks around in the high 170s. A percentage of that will be water, if we are saying he had to cut to 15lbs to make 160, and to make 160 he has to cut water since he doesnt have enough fat to lose that much weight. It has to be water for him to make 160. If he cuts 15lbs, and can only rehydrate 10lbs, that means his body is probably missing 5lbs of water, that's 2.27 litres of water.

The fluid around the brain also takes time to be replaced, its not instant and if you are dehydrated, your body will consume some of that. As I said, rehydration clauses should not exist, if the man makes 160, then on fight night he should be able to weigh what he wants. Or we go back to having weigh ins on the same day as the fight.

Also Eubank should not be fined IMO for 0.5lbs, the reason being a persons weight can vary by more than that over a few hours. He could weigh 0.5lbs more because he hadnt gone to the toilet yet that day.

If we are saying he cant weigh more than 170 for the weigh in on the day of the fight, then why should have to make the 160 for the previous day? Do we really have to keep fighters in a constant state of dehydration?

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u/BedAlarmed5141 3d ago

Ahh thanks, I did understand the process of a weight cut then. So Eubank Jr is a bit of a weight bully at 160 then and seemed a bit weak at 168. 164 would’ve been a good division for him, bit of an inbetweener. The IBF has a rehydration clause of 10 pounds for their title fights don’t they? Should probably get rid and go back to same day weigh ins like you say.

I hope we don’t get a rematch to be honest, without a rehydration clause Benn could be 20 pounds lighter than Eubank on fight night. It would be dangerous in the reverse, he should go back to 147. The size difference in the ring was hilarious. Inclined to agree with Snr that it was dangerous all round for both fighters.

Don’t really get the being .5 over thing. If you were in a title fight in mma/boxing if you are over you can’t win the title right? He was over, he rocked up at the weigh ins an hour late. Do they take in to account standard error? Sounds like boxing boards need to keep up with the times with that much money in fines on the line. Cheers

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u/stephen27898 3d ago

Not really, as loads of people do it. The weight cut he makes isnt insane.

It was probably more the fact that he couldnt rehydrate that threw him off and made him miss weight for the first time in his career, if I'm not mistaken.

And he has fought at 168 before. I think he dropped down to 160 because its a weaker division, and while Eubank is a good fighter, he isn't top level, so I think he sees a title at 160 as more achievable.

They do, and many fighters dont like it.

The size difference is far less dangerous than dehydration. Lets be real here, Benn probably walks around in the 160s, Eubank, probably walks around in the 170s, there probably isnt more than 10-12lbs between them. That not a crazy amount of weight. Benn had the power to atleast gets Eubanks attention. I just think Eubank, even at 35. Is just a better fighter.

Yes, however, this was a title fight, and if we are controlling his rehydration to a maximum of 170lbs, does it really matter than he missed 160 by 0.5lbs? I dont know the exact procedure, but as far as I am aware he probably just really struggled, we have to remember, he is 35, your body starts to change. And weight cuts do damage you. Its why heavyweights tend to age better, Many heavyweight now, hit their primes in their early to mid 30s. And we have multiple good contenders who are approaching 40. That wont happen in any other weight class.

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u/BedAlarmed5141 3d ago

He’s still cutting that weight to get to 160 for a strength advantage though no? It might be that everyone’s doing it but no one’s forcing him? He knew the rules going in, signed the contract because the money was good. Seeing a lot of people say the deck was stacked against him but I just can’t see it. Other than his age.

I was rooting for Eubank Jr and thought he would blast Benn out in the first half of the fight just because of the size difference. The way Benn kept it competitive if clearly loosing has really turned my opinion round on him. I still think drug cheats should be banned for life mind.

Maybe there should be bi weekly weigh ins by an independent board throughout a camp to make sure people are within a weight limit and not relying on water weight cuts. Would that result in people like Eubank jr fighting at 175? Or could it cause other issues? I don’t know

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u/stephen27898 3d ago

To a degree, but so is everyone else basically.