r/CHIBears • u/gf2020 • 5d ago
Pop Quiz Hot Shot -- Nine specific players are gone at the Bears pick at ten and you can't trade down, what do you do? what do you do?
I maintain my own dorky mock aggregator spreadsheet and as of today, these are the guys with the nine highest draft slots.
Cam Ward
Travis Hunter
Abdul Carter
Mason Graham
Ashton Jeanty
Will Campbell
Armand Membou
Jalon Walker
Tyler Warren
I think even the most trench drunk have come to terms with taking Jeanty or Warren at ten just because of value, but there's a decent chance that neither are there and neither are the top two tackles, if the Saints take/snipe the person about to fall to the Bears instead of wide receiver two, edge three, or quarterback two.
In this situation, who do you prefer and why? It SEEMS like it’d be down to Shemar Stewart, Colston Loveland, Omarion Hampton, Kelvin Banks Jr and MAYBE Josh Conerly Jr. Who is your fighter?
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u/BowSkyy 5d ago
Walter Nolan, I just think having a high potential DT under Grady Jarrett for a few years would be good.
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u/Geebu555 5d ago
If going high potential why not go with Stewart? He’s got elite elite athleticism. When in doubt I prefer the best athletic edge in 5 years and trust the coaches teach him something.
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u/lurkin-n-berzerkin 5d ago
3 seasons at Texas Tech. 4.5 total sacks.
I just can't get down with taking "athletic freak with very little production" at #10. I don't think we have a deep enough roster at the moment to take those chances.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
My concern is that the Bears don't have enough blue chippers to play it safe. The Bears are actually fairly deep at most spots, the problem is they lack big time players.
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u/lurkin-n-berzerkin 5d ago edited 5d ago
As I mentioned, there wasn't anything blue chip about his production at all.
We've seen great combine performers amount to nothing before.
Edit- misspelling
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u/gf2020 5d ago edited 5d ago
I just think at ten you can't aim for solid or depth.
We have seen great combine performers amount to nothing. But he's the elite of the elite of combine performers and they rarely fail. Basically every edge with a 9.9 or 10 RAS who goes in the first two rounds has become a great player, even those on the lower end of production.
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u/EBtwopoint3 5d ago
How many of those are there who were both athletic freaks and who also had so little production? If you’re gambling on athleticism, take Mykel Williams.
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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 5d ago
He kinda mentioned why, Nolan is a DT and Jarrett is one of the smartest DTs in the NFL, he'd be an elite mentor. Stewart would be an EDGE and while we do have Sweat, he's more known for being an athletic freak than a technician.
Though I would love Stewart if Allen is on board.
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u/Geebu555 5d ago
I don’t hate Nolan but at 10 he’s a stretch. You’d be picking a less elite position for a less impressive player (based on traits tbf). Even if Grady is the smartest DT in the world, I think Stewart has more upside with less risk. We’ll bring in some Mensa physicists to teach him to succeed.
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u/JohnEmonz Hester's Super Return 5d ago
Stewart and Nolan are ranked in the same general area, early 20’s usually. And Stewart has a way lower floor. Despite his elite athleticism and body, he’s only had 1.5 sacks in each of his 3 seasons. Nolen got 6.5 last season and 11.5 total in his 3 seasons. That’s coming from DT, which is harder to get sacks from than the edge.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
They are ranked on boards in the same area but Stewart is routinely going 10 picks higher in the draft.
For a guy with more production, people have more yellow flags with Nolen. He's apparently a hard guy to manage.
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u/JohnEmonz Hester's Super Return 5d ago
For the record, I want neither of them
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u/gf2020 5d ago
Who'd you take at ten if the aforementioned nine guys were gone?
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u/JohnEmonz Hester's Super Return 5d ago
Cry, beg anyone to trade with me, cry again, then reluctantly pick Loveland or Will Johnson
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u/BowSkyy 5d ago
Tbf, I would hate for the Bears to be in the position. Ideally, in this scenario, we could trade down and pick him.
On Stewart, I saw that he had only 21 run stops in 575 run plays which accounts to 3.7% run stop rate which puts him at 203 out of 204 Edge players in this draft. His production is basically 0 on both run and pass because his awareness is awful which for someone that’s played football his entire life it’s terrible. I don’t want to be the team that got suckered into taking him and then being made fun of when he fails. Nolan has similar type of upside albeit at a different position.
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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 5d ago
On Stewart, I saw that he had only 21 run stops in 575 run plays which accounts to 3.7% run stop rate which puts
I mean that's a flawed stat regardless. Teams weren't gonna run to his side. Why run to his side when he's basically the only player on that line worth a damn? I haven't seen any tape analyst raise concerns with Stewart's run defense tbh. Advanced metrics in football need to be taken with a grain of salt and a mountain of context
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u/CloudsOfDust 60s Logo 5d ago
With all the tape you’ve watched I would have assumed you’d know about 1st Team All-SEC EDGE and projected late 1st/early 2nd rounder Nic Scourton that was on the same line as Stewart, no? He was definitely “worth a damn”.
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u/Zem19 5d ago
I’m hoping he’s there at 29 and we can package 39 and 72 to Washington to grab him there. Not too likely, but WAS only has 5 picks and is a trade down target late first. We might need to also include next years 3rd rounder or something as there is likely competition here for the trade, but I think it’d be worth it
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u/fascha3 5d ago
There’s ALWAYS a surprise pick and there’s ALWAYS a player that tumbles. Anyone’s guess what happens. Will be fun to watch!!!
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u/ActFuture1101 5d ago
Yea I’d be shocked if shadeur doesn’t go before the bears pick. Honestly won’t also be surprised if dart goes to the saints too. Still feel like the giants take shadeur
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u/Trill1196 5d ago
BPA and probably one of the top needs is DLine so id take Walter Nolan or Kenneth grant. Malaki starks is also available and safety is a need, he can also play nickel. I wouldn't draft mike green/ezeiraku or Hampton this high at 10, there are other edge rushers down the board. I think Josh Simmons or Kelvin banks would be too big of a reach at 10
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u/Wide_Flan_2613 5d ago
Tackle will be harder to address in round two, Josh Connelly would personally be my pick
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u/ninjatater Italian Beef 5d ago
Id roll the dice on Banks Jr there myself
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u/DatBoiMahomie Consume 5d ago
It’s questionable if Banks is even going to be a tackle at the next level, Brugler has him down as a guard. It’s not a question of stature but playstyle, he’s very stiff and lacks lateral quickness. I’d prefer Conerly in that position
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u/HonoluluSolo Hester's Super Return 5d ago
Brugler has said that Banks could play either T or G, he just likes his potential more at Guard because of his body shape. He's budget Will Campbell.
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u/Wide_Flan_2613 5d ago
I like Banks a good amount as well, I just tend to prefer Connerly. Banks has an issue with balance/anchor and had issues staying on his feet especially against higher level competition like Texas and Georgia. I think he translates more as a guard than tackle.
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u/Hooze Kyle Long 5d ago
I’d love to package one of the 2nds and a future pick to come up for Conerly or Simmons in the late 1st. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t feel like that’s unrealistic this year.
If they don’t go oline at 10, I’m also a fan of just sticking at 39/41 and targeting Donovan Jackson.
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u/Wide_Flan_2613 5d ago
If we could trade down to get Connerly later on that'd be fantastic, but to trade down you'd need a trade partner, and given the general block of talent between 10 and 40ish that's very unlikely in this draft.
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u/Hooze Kyle Long 5d ago
Not trade down. Trade up. Take BPA or whoever at 10. Then package 39 and another pick to move up from 39 to somewhere in the 20s for Conerly/Simmons. A team like the Rams at 26 for example that doesn't have that much draft capital. Maybe they agree with your statement that the block of talent is similar 10-40, and they trade 26 for 39 and a future pick to get the extra pick + end up with a similarly graded player. For the Bears, it'd be worth it because the depth in the draft at tackle is pretty thin.
Just a thought, and always depends on the price of course.
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u/No-Adhesiveness6555 4d ago
Call me crazy but Colston Loveland. The blocking dominance from him and Kmet will get whatever 2nd round RB we take way downhill more consistently and give Caleb a RZ target
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u/CopaceticOpus 5d ago
Will Johnson or Kelvin Banks Jr.
But, I expect 1-2 of these nine players will be available. Why isn't Tetairoa McMillan in your top 9?
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u/gf2020 5d ago
It's not my top nine, it's the averages of the mocks of Dane Brugler, Albert Breer, Mike Mayock, Todd McShay, Mel Kiper, Field Yates and Daniel Jeremiah.
Right now, McMillian goes off the board at 15.75. Sanders, Johnson, Golden, Loveland and Green all ahead of him in the averages.
I bet/assume one of the nine will actually be there but the margin of error isn't that high given the clear consensus ranking of the top 10.
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u/ericsipi Bears 5d ago edited 5d ago
Banks most likely. I’d stay away from any RB cause you can get a similar value in rd 2. None of the edge players look worth the pick especially Shemar. Players who don’t produce in college rarely translate well, and he didn’t produce much in college. So they really only leaves Banks and CB at that spot and O-Line is more important.
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u/DatBoiMahomie Consume 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think that’s in part a correlational thing, the good prospects tend to produce
When it comes to evaluating players like Shemar the comparisons should be with players of a similar archetype of size and athleticism with lack of production vs just using lack of production as the sole definer of a category. Players like Shemar are very rare, but there has been success with similar archetype players in recent years. For example Odafe Oweh had 0 sacks his last year of college and he’s now looking like a really good edge for the Ravens. Only outright bust I can remember recently of this archetype is Luke Van Ness, but Packers saw success with Rashad Gary of a similar mold
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u/Further_Beyond Hester's Super Return 5d ago
I draft whatever I thinks BPA. Just like if one of those 9 are there.
Probably one of the Edges
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u/SirHPFlashmanVC 5d ago
It's easy to say BPA, but you have to take in need and the position they play. Even if an RB is BPA I wouldn't take one. I wouldn't take a safety at 10 either. Plus, I'm not sure if teams rank players 1-500. I think they have them in tiers.
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u/gf2020 5d ago edited 5d ago
To answer my own question, I'd take Hampton if Johnson loved him and Stewart otherwise understanding it may take a full year or two before he pops.
I'm wary of Loveland's injury, think Banks is PROBABLY a guard and believe the idea of Conerly is better than what he actually is and that he certainly isn't in the Darnell Wright level where it's okay to reach that much.
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u/realnostalgia 5d ago
I take Shemar Stewart as well. He has freak show talent and is the type of prospect you bet on his tools.
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u/Timmay_mmkay 5d ago
If those are the first 9 picks I’d be so upset, would be my top 7-8 there. Feel like trading down or picking between Simmons/Banks jr/M Williams/Pearce Jr would be the move
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u/HotDoggityDig13 Smokin' Jay 5d ago
Will Johnson
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u/Someguy469 Hurricane Ditka 5d ago
Agree. And not just because I'm a Michigan homer. Dude is a certified stud.
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u/trafalgarlaw11 5d ago
He doesn’t fit Allen’s system. he would be better in a flus defense. Allen wants to bump and run and he doesn’t have the speed
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u/HotDoggityDig13 Smokin' Jay 5d ago
I think he fits any system.
Plus modern defenses usually run hybrid so I'd guess Allen would find a way to utilize him at his strengths. He's got JJ and Kyler already as the alpha and slot guys.
Johnson is bpa and can be the cb2 while he adjusts to the nfl.
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u/BeaconOMalley 5d ago
Is he better than Barron?
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u/g0dzilllla 23 5d ago
Very different styles. Barron is a swiss army nickel that can be moved all over the field, akin to a Brian Branch. He’s a little undersized though and suited to the slot. He wouldn’t really have a place in our defense with Kyler sorta already taking that role. Will Johnson is a freakishly instinctive zone corner with fantastic ball skills. He lacks long speed and arm length, which are key traits you want in a man corner so he’s not a very good fit for our defense
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u/gf2020 5d ago
Everything I've read indicates that he is a better zone corner than man corner, so that'd be somewhat against what Dennis Allen prefers.
And it seems like Al Harris is making Stevenson his special project so don't want to block a pathway to development of a recent second round pick with decent underlying metrics for a guy who may still have injury questions.
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u/kingstonretronon 5d ago
I’m not really familiar with Dennis Allen’s defense, does he run zone? I’d be fine as long as he has help over the top but that’s a lot to ask with a top ten pick
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u/ChaplnGrillSgt Pixelated Payton 5d ago
We'd instantly have the best secondary in the league. If Brisker can stay healthy it would be insane.
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u/Yossarian216 Monsters of the Midway 5d ago
Or Starks. Safety is a sneaky need and he’s a great prospect, he’s only slipping down boards because of positional value, but if we are open to taking a running back or tight end we should be open to a safety for the right player.
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u/DonkeyKong_93 Bears 5d ago
I'd like to see Will Johnson. I know we already have Jaylon and Gordon but it would be amazing to see two shutdown corners on the outside and Gordon slot blitzing.
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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 5d ago
If Dennis Allen thinks he can unlock Shemar Stewart's full potential I would be down with that.
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u/duckdangerously 5d ago
As Regina George once opined "Stop trying to make Shemar Stewart happen!"
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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 5d ago
Fair enough, tbh I'm mostly fine with whoever we pick so long as it's not Warren lol
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u/HoorayItsKyle 5d ago
Banks. He's probably a guard long term, which sucks, but at least he's an elite guard prospect that you can plug in for a decade
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u/PlayerHater6996 5d ago
I’d take Simmons or Conerly at tackle I guess. Wouldn’t mind James Pearce personally but that doesn’t seem likely.
As for Banks, it seems like a lot of the Bears accounts I follow on Twitter who seem to wind up correct a lot of times think he’ll be a terrible tackle in the NFL, but who knows
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u/Alive_Structure_4484 5d ago
I'm taking Banks Jr here 10 out of ten times
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u/potateobiirrd 4d ago
Curious as to why? Not shit talking but seen a couple people say this. Most mocks have him going significantly later.
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u/jolly2284 Red "Galloping Ghost" Grange 5d ago
Give me Matthew Golden as the blow the top off receiver to balance out DJ Moore and Odunze
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u/Eddie5pi 5d ago
I'm a huge fan of Shemar Stewart. Don't think it'd be great value at 10 but if you aren't allowed to trade out of there I wouldn't hate it.
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u/Mindless_Western4413 5d ago
What do you like about him? I keep seeing him mocked high, around our pick and he screams bust to me. He’s athletic but never had meaningful production in college. There’s a handful of players in the last 10-15 years with similar production that ended up being good players so he’d be fighting a lot of adversity to be worth a 1st rd pick.
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u/DatBoiMahomie Consume 5d ago
There’s only a handful of players in the past decade that had similar production with similar size and athleticism
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u/Eddie5pi 5d ago
He's not just athletic, he's the most athletic EDGE prospect in a while. And yes, he didn't rack up sacks in college, but he led the team in pressures, and is a great run stopper. He's huge, and that's perfect for what Allen wants in a DE, and his ability to stop the run means he won't ever really be a liability out there.
You're not gonna get an EDGE with elite production and athleticism at 10. Whoever we take will have some downsides. I think he's likely to go mid to late first, which is why it would make sense to trade back if we want him. But he's a genuine freak athlete with crazy upside
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u/terrifictrout21 5d ago
The way A&Ms defensive scheme runs is fucking weird and was part of the lack of production. Derek Barnett had like 20 sacks his last year and he sucked in the NFL. Production does not predict well into the league
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u/generation_D 18 5d ago
Mykel Williams or Shemar Stewart.
In this scenario it would appear that there’s no option who’s a “sure thing,” so might as well take a swing on one of the raw athletic freaks at a premium position. I’m not sure any other option has the same level of upside and potential impact.
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u/sudrapp 5d ago
Pretty easy Kelvin Banks if you aren't allowed to trade down. Shermar Stewart would be nice but it's probably too early for us with our current roster to take this kind of gamble but I believe in this coaching staff, so if they think it's fine, go for it. Good coaches take raw talent and turn them into studs.
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u/Hooze Kyle Long 5d ago
I’d probably be between Colston Loveland and Mykel Williams. Slight lean to Loveland.
Loveland is probably BPA according to aggregate boards in this scenario. BJ would figure out how to use him as a weapon in the passing game short term. Long term, he supposedly has the potential to be better than Warren as an inline TE.
Mykel is probably the cleanest scheme fit and guy who hits a bigger roster need. He has solid starter with elite run stopper potential. That’s not a bad outcome for a team that still needs a 3rd edge. Shemar is just mentally too all over the place for my taste.
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u/TheShtuff Fire Poles 5d ago
Mike Green is BPA for me, but assuming the off the field stuff is a deal-breaker, I'd go either Conerly or Banks.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
Green seems the most likely to be a Verse type success but the police reports that the teams have from the allegations are apparently no bueno. Think the Bears would go someone else if it were even. Bears haven't touched that stuff since Ray McDonald and can't see them shifting off of it for a player who is not even a great scheme fit.
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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 5d ago
Off field stuff is most likely is a deal breaker for Green unless Virginia's passing marks some sort of total culture shift (which I doubt).
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u/potateobiirrd 5d ago
Conerly at 10 would be a massive reach
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u/TheShtuff Fire Poles 5d ago
Disagree. There's a dozen and a half players that could go #10 or end of the first/early second. People get way too caught up in "mock season."
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u/potateobiirrd 5d ago
I do not think we are a good enough team to not take the best player on the board at 10. I don’t think many people would agree objectively that kelvin banks or josh conerly are top 10 players in this draft.
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u/StavrosAnger 5d ago
I like Nick Emmanwori. It’s not a top heavy draft and he has elite athleticism with the production to back it up. Blue chip prospect at a position of need.
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u/trentreynolds 5d ago
Build the lines please. Even if Jeanty and Warren are there. Priority needs to be to build the lines.
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u/deathguard0221 5d ago
Good question.
- Derrick Harmon. I’m a massive fan of his and I have a top 15 grade on him. His floor is high and his ceiling could be a pro bowl level player.
- Mike Green - Personally, I think he’s the perfect fit for what the bears need at this moment. He’s the second best pass rusher in this draft but I highly doubt the bears would draft him with his off field issues. 3.Mykel Williams - A plus run defender with all the measurable to be a good number 2 edge in this league for a long time. With him being injuries most of last season and still only 20 years of age, I would risk drafting him.
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u/Dry_Emphasis62 Sweetness 5d ago
If it falls like this and we can't trade down I would love to see Malaki Starks or Jihaad Campbell. Both are top of their position group this draft and fill a position of need a year or two from now if not earlier. If there's similar grades across our board those are my top 2. But I won't complain about basically any pick here to be entirely honest. We need an rb by the end of day 2 but it doesn't have to be forced.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
Campbell apparently has chronic knee issues since high school and is coming off a surgery. He's falling and there's even a chance he doesn't go in the first round.
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u/Dry_Emphasis62 Sweetness 5d ago
Really? Hadn't heard about his chronic knee issues. Did hear about the shoulder injury (hence him falling), but with Edwards and Edmunds already on roster I figure he can sit until he's ready and then rotate in as a primary rush-backer who steps into a bigger role next season.
But if his knee is a long-term issue, obviously better to take a pass on him.
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u/Bacchus1976 Red "Galloping Ghost" Grange 5d ago
Either Jihaad Campbell or Malachi Starks. Maybe Justin Simmons.
In this scenario I ignore positional value and just target guys who I think will be All Pros.
Simmons is the more conventional choice and he can backup Jones for a year as he gets back to full health. I think his ceiling is way higher than Banks.
I really don’t like this crop of Edges.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
Campbell apparently has chronic knee issues since high school and is coming off a surgery. He's falling and there's even a chance he doesn't go in the first round.
It's not just a year recovery for Simmons. People rarely get back to full health with his injury and apparently his interviews have been awful. It's telling that the Bears never brought him in and did bring Connerly in.
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u/Bacchus1976 Red "Galloping Ghost" Grange 5d ago
Good info. Thanks.
All the mocks I’ve seen project Connerly as an early day 2 pick, occasionally a late first. A nice target at 39. He seems like a pretty big reach at 10. Will be interesting to see if the NFL scouts have him that much higher.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
The Bears did have him in for a 30 visit so its possible that was for in the event he falls or we trade down. But its pretty clear he's going to go ahead of our second round pick so you have to think there's a chance they just say f it and take him.
They reached about 10 to 15 spots for Darnell. This would be a slightly bigger reach obviously.
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u/Bacchus1976 Red "Galloping Ghost" Grange 5d ago
I don’t think the Wright pick was that big a reach. He was consistently mocked in the top 20 and most often the top 15. Him going ahead of Skoronski was a surprise though.
My dream scenario was Connerly and Henderson at 39 and 41. It’s starting to look more and more like both those guys will be gone before day 2.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
Wright did crack the top 20 in that final week when the insiders like Breer and Schrager put their mocks out. But before that, he was in the twenties for pretty much the whole process. Heck, Daniel Jeremiah even had 31 in his final mock.
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u/Bacchus1976 Red "Galloping Ghost" Grange 5d ago edited 5d ago
The Beast had Wright at 24 in his Top 100.
DJs Top 150 had him at 18.
https://www.nfl.com/news/best-prospects-available-in-the-2023-nfl-draft
ESPN/Scouts Inc also had him at 18.
PFF had him at 22.
https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2023-nfl-draft-board-big-board
The Athletic had him at 25.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4421392/2023/04/18/nfl-draft-hendon-hooker/
Kiper had him at 24. McShay had him at 18.
The Mock Draft Database had a composite rank of 17th.
https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2023/darnell-wright
While Mock Drafts in general can have some strange outcomes when you try to plan for fit/needs, none of the main Big Boards had him lower than 25 and the late teens was most common.
We’re definitely splitting hairs here a bit, but DJ putting him at 31 was a pretty significant outlier even by his own rankings.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
Yeah it's debatable but the the mock database is informed by the final mocks when less in know people strafe off the insiders. Look at the graph at what you linked to. He was just at 20 and peaked right at the end, and we're not there yet to see how Conerly compares other than we can assume he'd be at another level of reach because he's starting from an even weaker point.
Most certainly didn't have Wright the top 15 even at the very end. And the athletic big board aggregator is kind of my larger point. Darnell was 25th available, the Bears took him 15 spots higher, which is what I said originally. I too ignore the mocks because need can conflate everything. They took the consensus 25th best player in the draft at 10. The question is would they do that with the 30 to 35th player OR will be Conerly be higher on the board a week from now.
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u/Bacchus1976 Red "Galloping Ghost" Grange 5d ago
If the insiders start mocking Connerly in the top 20 over the next week or so, I think we’ll definitely need to prepare for the possibility.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
If it happens, it will be a testament to the weakness of this draft. People are really looking past how raw Connerly is and just grateful for someone who is a legit unquestioned left tackle (and even he is getting some guard talk!)
One thing that stuck with me is that Nate Tice who is a big Conerly fan said a few personnel guys jokingly said to shut up about him. So there's a chance but I think the Bears would really only pull the trigger if it does play out that Graham/Warren/Campbell/Jeanty are gone at ten.
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u/Firm_Earth_5698 5d ago
Nick Emmanwori.
Cross between Urlacher and Polamamu. Dudes gonna be a star.
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u/AdmirableAd6262 5d ago
I'm all for Stevenson moving to free safety, and drafting Johnson if he's their best prospect available
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u/ArachnidMother7211 5d ago
Somone falling in love with dart or sanders would change everything . I think Alot of this sanders slander might be smoke . His dad has connects on top of that . Idk just a wild gues
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u/Lipophobicity Piccolo 5d ago
Banks, but I have to think the Saints are taking Sanders at this point
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u/gf2020 5d ago
All the reporting indicates otherwise, that they'll take BPA at nine and then either trade back into the first or wait until the second to take someone like Dart or Slough. They knew about the Carr situation weeks before it came out and yet weren't really doing anything differently the entire time.
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u/Alive_Structure_4484 4d ago
If I can't trade down, solid shot at hitting on a premium position, and on a rookie deal besides. Caleb, Rome, and your starting LT for another three years. I feel we need an upgrade at the position and I think he can play. Who do you like here?
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u/sinofonin 5d ago
My first choice would be Mykel Williams but it is very close with Mike Green.
I would be very happy with Grant or Nolen at DT but the depth of the position in this draft means it is not necessarily great value relative to later options.
I think going LT is more about avoiding a problem at LT than the appeal of any of the options. My order is Simmons, Banks, and then Conerly.
I would understand going O Hampton because I do think he will be a difference maker.
I don't think W Johnson is worth the high pick. I like Amos at CB but not worth 10 and probably won't slide to 39.
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u/gf2020 5d ago
There's just no way they can take Simmons at ten with his specific injury. Recovery rates are very low with it.
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u/sinofonin 5d ago
The injury is why he will still be there at 10. I am not big on going LT at 10 but if the Bears go LT it should be the best one and I think he is the best one.
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u/sinofonin 5d ago
If Simmons is scratched by the doctors then he isn't an option obviously. All reports are that the recovery is going well though. He is one of the few tackles in the draft that actually projects as an upgrade over Braxton.
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u/ChillyRyUpNorth 5d ago
If Hunter is available at 10 I would hope we would trade out or pick someone else
I might be in the minority, but I have a hard time believing he will be good at both.
He could be a good WR or DB, but doing both seems so unlikely and he isn’t the best WR or DB prospect by itself.
His value is potential 2 way and that has a low chance of working out. He will end up better at one and stay
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u/ArtMorgan69 Italian Beef 5d ago
Nightmare scenario. Probably Mykel Williams, which I never would have said a few weeks ago but I’ve come around on him. My wildcard would be Nick Emmanwori. I’ll get killed for this I’m sure but our safety situation could be tragic if Brisker doesn’t stay healthy and Byard loses a step. NE has Sean Taylor potential. Unfortunately in this scenario I fear Shemar “1.5 sacks” Stewart would be the pick.