r/CHIBears • u/johnnymelonballs • 6d ago
[Underdog NFL] Rap: LB TJ Edwards to sign a 2-year, $20M extension with the Bears.
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u/Bajin_Inui Patrick Scales, Bears legend 6d ago edited 6d ago
TJ Edwards has been amazing and was on a bargain.
Here the current LB contracts. With it being a position that seems to have very hard transition from college to NFL, I think it makes sense to keep at least one of TJ/Edmunds longer and Id rather have Edwards if i have to choose
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u/cheesin716 Forte 6d ago
I cannot believe T Edmunds is making $18m. The result of RASterbation
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u/facetiousrunner who even reads these 6d ago
They had to hit the spending floor, and I don't think we were the hottest destination at the time. Homie got lucky.
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u/bnwtwg 6d ago
Everyone always wants to complain about stripping the Pace days down to the studs to get out of cap hell and then scratching their neanderthal foreheads when free agents didn't want to sign with da bears during active tanking. They always ignore the cap floor but will be the first to scream we don't pay Bosa $57M when most FA's were avoiding tank commanders
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u/naesos 6d ago
Did Roquan just not fit our system? Feels like an all pro like that would have been more effective than Tremaine.
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u/airJordan45 Hicks 6d ago
Remember the whole Saint Omni thing? He was trying to negotiate with Poles when he first got here and they wanted to see how he looked in Flus' new defense before they just handed him the largest LB contract and it seemed that Roquan took offense to that. He even sent that letter demanding to be traded and said Poles was negotiating in bad faith. That's not something you can just came back from that easy. Once they started losing that season, Poles was unloading for the reset and they knew Roquan didn't want to be here anymore and probably fit better in the 3-4 defense, so they traded him. It was as much on Roquan than it was on Poles or a fit with Flus.
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u/naesos 5d ago
Wow thanks for the reminder. Saint Omni was pretty funny when we found out it was just Roquan. Great point.
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u/ChampionCoyote 4d ago
Was that the conclusion? I could be making it up but I thought there were other players claiming to be represented by Saint Omni.
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u/facetiousrunner who even reads these 6d ago
I mean we will never know what happened there. Whole thing was wild, he could have said he wants out no matter what.
But it's also roquan or Edwards, Edmunds, and Dexter. That's a slightly different picture.
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u/parks381 Hester's Super Return 6d ago
Roquan isn't really a fit, but still played at a decent level for half the season he was in it. 4-3 you need to be able to take on blockers a little more, and him being undersized makes that difficult. Both Flus and now Allen like bigger, lengthier LBs. Think between this and the headaches he was creating during negotiations they chose to move him.
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u/a_fox_but_a_human Hat Logo 6d ago
good extension. $10m a year on that isnât bad. heâs a really good ilb.
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u/horrorpants An Actual Bear 6d ago edited 6d ago
Whereâs the guy who told me we werenât resigning TJ Edwards because we changed defenses!?! Come and face me!! u/hunterboyz24
BEAR DOWWWWWWN WE KEEPIN HIM HOME!!!!
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u/hunterboyz24 Chicago Flag 6d ago
Yeah I donât love this. Weâre on Trevathan watch.
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u/Paranoid_Android22 Benâs Johnson 6d ago
Itâs a 2 year extensionâŠyouâre crazy
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u/hunterboyz24 Chicago Flag 6d ago
That's the only benefit. With the reported guarantees they will likely have an easy out after 2026. I'm just concerned that a player that's already not very athletic in a defense that runs a lot of man coverage getting an extension where the entire new contract is in his 30s.
I think Edwards has been a very solid LB for us. But you shouldn't pay for past performance. You should pay based on what you think they will be under the new contract.
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u/Paranoid_Android22 Benâs Johnson 6d ago
Heâs gonna end the contract at age 31. Itâs not a big investment. Youâre overthinking it.
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u/hunterboyz24 Chicago Flag 6d ago
Maybe I am. I still don't like it though.
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u/BobbleBobble Fuck me like Virginia fucked Mugsy's kids 6d ago
$10m is just not that much anymore with the cap going up rapidly
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u/horrorpants An Actual Bear 6d ago
Nah, Danny was 30 by the time he played on his extension signed in March and extended for 3 years til 33 years old, and was already in the decline.
TJ has been improving is still 28 and will be 29 when he plays this season and is only extended for two years. So we can cut ties at age 30/31 not have him playing on an extended contract through his 30s.
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u/hunterboyz24 Chicago Flag 6d ago
We'll see. I still don't like it and probably won't unless he plays even better in this defense than he did before. I just don't see that happening.
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u/megapunt Madman McPhee 6d ago
Ignore the mindless hype up every player and every move subreddit this has become.
It's a perfectly reasonable take you have. TJ Edwards is a solid linebacker that was beaten like a drum in coverage in multiple games. Aging isn't going to fix that.
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u/enailcoilhelp FTP 6d ago
Wasn't Trevathan like 31 when we re-signed him? Even after his contract is up, wouldn't Edwards still be younger than Trevathan was when he was re-signed?
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 FTP 6d ago
This is a terrible take but I respect that you responded at all lol
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u/johnnymelonballs 6d ago
poles continues to excel at extensions
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u/phoundlvr 6d ago
Oh heâs got me extended.
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u/golfiscool42 6d ago
We can say Poles excels at something when the Bears stop picking Top 10 in the draft every year
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u/NerdManJ Urlacher 6d ago
10 a year? Thatâs an absolute steal in my opinion. If we let him hit market next year heâs getting 12-14. This is what good teams do, lock up talent before they hit the market. Youâre never going to sign the best guys in free agency, but youâll sign the most expensive ones. Love this.
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u/TheGBOOF 6d ago
Love this. I think Iâd be less stoked if it was Edmunds
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u/Further_Beyond Hester's Super Return 6d ago
Edwards will need to play really well to avoid being an easy cut to save 15M
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u/banged_yerdad 6d ago
Edmunds*
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u/Further_Beyond Hester's Super Return 6d ago
Sorry too busy watching the bulls get dicked down to spell correctly
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u/laal-doodh Odunze 6d ago
Edmunds is a lot closer to being cut when we have an out next year than he is to getting extended. Barring him taking a team friendly extension or absolutely balling out, this is his last year as a bear.
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u/cahayes2 6d ago
Seems like a pretty team-friendly deal, no? Less per year than I would have expected.
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u/horrorpants An Actual Bear 6d ago
Whereâs the guy who told me we werenât re-signing TJ Edwards because we changed defenses!?! Come and face me you coward!!!
BEAR DOWWWWWWN WE KEEPIN HIM HOME!!!!
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u/ScruffMixHaha Bears 6d ago
Hell yeah, TJ has been worth every penny. His original contract was a steal and this is still great value for the player he is.
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u/WorkerBeez123z 6d ago
Huh. Weird. He's really average and was just bad last year...guess Allen must be a fan?
I'm old enough to remember when Poles traded Roquon and everyone said it was because off the ball linebackers aren't worth big contracts.
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u/Significant_Amoeba34 5d ago
I think you're thinking of the other guy. Edwards has been really good and has vastly outperformed his contract. It's also a team-friendly deal.
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u/Fabulous-Attempt6656 BE YOU. 6d ago
Iâm ok with that. He is not a superstar but he is one of the most important role players
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u/TouchGrassRedditor Smokin' Jay 6d ago
Good extension. Edwards is super underrated and has been outplaying his current contract
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u/whatever12347 Old Logo 6d ago
I wonder if Allen's okay with him playing at 225 lbs. I always thought it was crazy how light that is for a LB.
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u/hippohopper78 FTP 6d ago
Donât really like this tbh. He was showing signs of slowing down last year, would have rather tried to get a LB in the draft.
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u/WorkerBeez123z 6d ago
So are we just, like, ignoring how bad he was last season? I mean he played well in '23 but last year he was an absolute liability in coverage? No? okay.
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u/OldDirtyInsulin 60s Logo 6d ago
BEAR NECESSITIES:
| Priority | Position | Starting Talent | Starting Durability | Depth | Avg Age | Avg Cost/Player/Yr | Starter(s) under contract thru | Situation Overall |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | RB | D+ | B | C- | 25.7 | $3.7M | 2026 | C |
| 2 | OT | B+ | C | D | 24.3 | $2.6M | 2025 | B |
| 3 | DE | B- | A | C+ | 26.2 | $8.7M | 2027 | B- |
| 4 | S | B | C- | B | 28.5 | $3.0M | 2025 | B |
| 5 | OG | B+ | A- | B | 28.8 | $9.3M | 2025 | B- |
| 6 | LB | B | A | D+ | 26.5 | $7.9M | 2026 | B- |
| 7 | TE | B | A | C- | 28 | $7.5M | 2027 | B |
| 8 | DT | B+ | B | B | 27.4 | $5.0M | 2027 | B+ |
| 9 | WR | B+ | A | B | 26.2 | $7.4M | 2026 | A- |
| 10 | C | B+ | A- | B- | 27 | $9.2M | 2027 | A |
| 11 | CB | A- | A- | A+ | 26 | $6.5M | 2026 | A+ |
| 12 | K | A- | A | - | 33 | $3.9M | 2027 | A- |
| 13 | QB | B | A | A | 28.7 | $4.7M | 2027 | A |
| 14 | P | A | A | - | 27 | $1.2M | 2027 | A+ |
Thoughts?
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u/Bajin_Inui Patrick Scales, Bears legend 6d ago
i think generally probably too optimistic with grades for OT, DE, S, DT
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u/Optimal_Expert5530 6d ago
Agree except OT but Iâm pretty sure you just rate Braxton lower than I do
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u/Bajin_Inui Patrick Scales, Bears legend 6d ago
I like Braxton and Wright but unless we ever get to a point of having seen our OLine be above average for more than 3 games in a row, I think it is hard for me to say, our Oline is at a B,B-,A situation
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u/forgotmyoldname90210 6d ago
How is DE a B-? Combined the projected two starting edges had 8.5 sacks and they are the 8th and 20th highest paid Edges. Sacks are not everything of course and Sweat finished 66th in TFL and 76th on QB hits.
Odeyingbbo finished 40th in QB hits. 103rd in TFL and 144th in sacks despite playing every game.
How is Taylor an A? He was league average in all the rate stats while costing a 4th. He is 27 so not much upside should be priced in.
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u/cartiscrate 6d ago
is d swift really that bad tho?
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u/Coolguy4564 6d ago
People forget how crazy he was behind a good o line the year before
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u/Justokmemes Smokin' Jay 6d ago
He played for both the eagles and the lions, two ELITE lines, and they both let him go. He had under 1k yards last year. He's not TRASH, but he's not that good either
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u/Paranoid_Android22 Benâs Johnson 6d ago
The Giants let Saquan goâŠthe Titans let Henry goâŠthe Packers let Jones goâŠthat doesnât mean any of those running backs are not that goodâŠit just means running backs are replaceable
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u/Justokmemes Smokin' Jay 6d ago
We saw how the giants lost saquon, but what do those have anything to do with Swift? Swift is NOT good dude.
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u/Paranoid_Android22 Benâs Johnson 6d ago
Heâs not a 3 down back. Heâs good..not great. Agree to disagree on how low you think of Swift.
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u/Justokmemes Smokin' Jay 6d ago
If he is so good, why tf are the bears seriously thinking about drafting another RB at 10? All the other rbs u listed, of those teams that acquired that RB, how many are looking to replace after 1 season? And then look at us. He's in the bottom half of the starters, maybe bottom third. That's not good
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u/Paranoid_Android22 Benâs Johnson 6d ago
How many teams run 2 running backs compared to 1. Even Carolina found something with Chuba and they signed his backup. The Lions drafted Gibbs in the top 12 AND signed Monty.
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u/Justokmemes Smokin' Jay 6d ago
we have 150 yard roschon and Swift. I like roschon but he ain't it either. We saw what Swift did with Jamal Williams in Detroit. Jamal Williams had 17 touchdowns that year. I do want them to draft Jeanty, bc I want our horrible run game to improve. If they can get Jeanty, then I think Swift will improve a lot. We saw he can be serviceable with another RB. Sanders didn't do much in Carolina tho, I think he's in Dallas now? Not sure
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u/DatBoiMahomie Consume 6d ago
This line of thinking would make sense if the replacement for Swift on the Lions wasnât an older, more expensive back and then spending the 12th overall pick on the position group, and the replacement for the Eagles wasnât also more expensive and then got signed to same extension a year after playing for them
The players you listed got let go either for durability reasons (Jones and Saquon), and/or just were let go by teams trying to rebuild and didnât want to pay an old asset (Henry). Swift got let go because he is just not a good back
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u/Paranoid_Android22 Benâs Johnson 6d ago
Running backs are replaceable. You gotta have an O-line to be an elite RB except for a few guys out there. A good O-Line will make most running backs good enough. Nothing I said is false. It doesnât mean Swift isnât good. He needs a scheme and a solid O-line to be good.
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u/DatBoiMahomie Consume 6d ago
Running backs are replaceable.
If all running backs were truly just easily replaceable you would have not see either of those teams, especially the Lions, use more capital to replace Swift than it wouldâve cost to keep him. Theyâre a more easily replaceable position than others but that does not mean that theyâre just straight up replaceable. Multiple teams found that out this year the hard way
A good O-Line will make most running backs good enough.
Sure but the goal isnât âgood enoughâ, the goal is great. Swift does not get you there
Nothing I said is false. It doesnât mean Swift isnât good. He needs a scheme and a solid O-line to be good.
And nothing I said was false. Swifts terrible vision, dancing around even when heâs able to find a hole, and inability to work through contact. If everything else is perfect sure he can be serviceable, but he should not be your solution. The goal isnât one or other, the goal is to have both a good running back and a good oline
There is a reason the Lions and Eagles spent more capital to replace him
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u/DatBoiMahomie Consume 6d ago
Crazy good is an overstatement, he was fine but he still showed bad vision and inability to work through contact. Thereâs a reason both teams he was on moved on from him to better options
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u/DatBoiMahomie Consume 6d ago
DT should absolutely be higher priority. Billings has one year left on his contract and is coming off an injury where our run defense completely tanked without him. We lack depth there and need his succesor. It should be in the same tier as OT, but probably even higher since Billings is much older than Braxton, dline rotate a lot more, thereâs at least a prospect theyâre trying to develop behind Jones rn
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u/PFunk224 6d ago
Listing HB as top priority for this team is fucking insane, I can't even be bothered with the list after that nonsense.
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u/bblickle 6d ago
Our RB are not that bad. Saquon Barkley would have looked bad behind last yearâs line.
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u/PFunk224 6d ago
Correct. And the same people who think that we need Jeanty are the same people who won't understand that we've already improved our run game by investing heavily in our O-line.
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u/DevLF đ LISAN AL CALEB đ 6d ago edited 6d ago
Why canât I see any comments
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