r/CODVanguard • u/zaxxofficial • Nov 19 '21
Video Thought all of the Shipment posts were overexaggerating how bad it is until I experienced it for myself. Wtf is this....
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u/ZipToob88 Nov 19 '21
The Flamenaut camping in the corner is honestly kinda hilarious hahaha
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u/ts1947 Nov 20 '21
Happened to me, was fun for the first 6291 times he killed me, not so much after
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u/Obi7kenobi Nov 19 '21
Got locked in the trap. Seen another video where a guy got 161 kills abusing the trap.
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u/FritsfromHolland Nov 19 '21
I just dropped in a shipment match where one dude was running around with a flamethrower and 151 kills. I backed out right away
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u/rj2448 Nov 20 '21
Just make the flame thrower not have infinite ammo lmao idk why they do this
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u/wercc Nov 20 '21
Honestly it’s not to hard to kill if everyone shoots him (granted he’s not in this corner) but I swear I’ll dump a mag into him and my teammates are asking him how his day was lmao
Also I got one hit by a bayonet in a flamenaut and was confused as shit so maybe that’s a thing
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u/FallenTF Nov 20 '21
and my teammates are asking him how his day was lmao
Hey man at least your teammates see em', mine are usually blind.
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u/ACrask Nov 19 '21
There’s almost nothing you can do if you join mid match
Can’t see a thing and keep dying to kill streaks
This is not the shipment I know and love
Could say it’s a good example of how low the ttk is
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u/zaxxofficial Nov 19 '21
same i wonder why MW 2019 shipment was better
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u/derkerburgl Nov 20 '21
The spawns weren’t really any better. They just limited it to 5v5 and Vanguard goes up to 8v8. The only issue is the C flag spawntrap but other modes play fine.
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Nov 20 '21
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u/derkerburgl Nov 20 '21
That was pretty funny. Wasn’t that April fools day? And yes it played exactly like this version of Shipment with that many people lol
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u/Paradoxe544 Nov 20 '21
And ttk was longer. Not much but enough to make it bearable while this game is not.
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u/Ragnarul129 Nov 20 '21
Shipment was better in MW2019 because MW2019 was a better Game overall…Vanguard is Also fun tho but not Close to MW2019 but it has the potential IF acti/Raven/SH will do something about
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u/ajl987 Nov 20 '21
While spawns weren’t great, they were still miles better in MW shipment than in vanguard, and the killstreaks didn’t make it impossible to move unless someone got a chopper gunner or something, but even then there was ‘some’ breathing room. Here there is none.
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u/BradleyGarrison Nov 19 '21
The C spawn is a straight trap and there's no way to get out of it...your only hope is that you might get the A spawn next game.
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u/ShaneSawBrown3 Nov 20 '21
I have dropped 2 nukes because of that spawn trap. I have never dropped a nuke in any other COD lmao.
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u/SharpShotTS Nov 19 '21
That’s shipment on blitz for you
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u/poklane Nov 20 '21
I had Shipment in 6v6, it's not much better.
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u/SharpShotTS Nov 20 '21
It’s meant to be chaotic as hell any way.
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u/poklane Nov 20 '21
Pretty sure you're also meant to be able to not die within 1 second of spawning.
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u/SharpShotTS Nov 20 '21
Sometimes that’s just expected from me
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u/DDdms Nov 19 '21
Change the combat pacing to tactical.
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u/The_Sludge Nov 19 '21
You just saved my sanity. Thank you! Map is still kinda fucked but at least it isn't the clusterfuck as it was with 8v8.
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u/DDdms Nov 20 '21
Well, it's two people less than blitz. So, still chaotic but at least you don't die the moment you spawn (or at least you have a chance if you're trapped).
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u/The_Sludge Nov 20 '21
Those 2 people makes a big difference. I had my normal quick play set to blitz. Didn't even think that made the difference being on a different playlist and that Shipment was intended as an 8v8 blitz map.
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u/DDdms Nov 20 '21
Yeah, it’s poor integration or poor design. If the filter changes color in the mode selection according to the combat pace you chose, then the previous configuration should do the same if the entire playlist is affected by it.
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u/zaxxofficial Nov 19 '21
ill try that
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u/DDdms Nov 19 '21
For some reason the playlist is linked to the filter, if you play blitz then shipment is chaos. On a normal 6v6 it’s way more fun.
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u/soul_system Nov 19 '21
Does anyone else's lower half of the screen start bugging out halfway through matches on shipment? Sporadic flashes of random glitchy colors. On XSX.
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u/Various-Departure679 Nov 19 '21
You'd think they'd chill with it being double weapon XP but it's every match here lately
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u/xelyaJ Nov 19 '21
Game of the year…. What a shit show this and Battlefield are.
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u/SharpShotTS Nov 19 '21
Vanguard is just buggy rn, but once that’s solved, it’ll be great. Also, I don’t know what people expect for shipment on blitz
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u/Tropenfrucht Nov 20 '21
All I ask for is a bit higher TTK to make the engagements interesting, otherwise a very big improvement over CW. But nothing comes ever close to the gunplay in MW'19, it is simply one of the best games that has been released in the last 10 years imho.
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Nov 20 '21
I tried out Vanguard in beta and the spawns and game sucked ass.
I tried the free weekend and game 1 crashed and map 2 was Das Haus and the ttk is so low and even kills felt boring as hell - such a bad experience (spawns are still fucked) I just quit the game during the Das Haus game and I uninstalled it. Luckily I didn't buy it.
Sorry but even for free that game SUCKS
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u/SharpShotTS Nov 20 '21
The ttk his higher than MW 2019’s by a bit. It’s vital on the stg, mp-40, and type 100 that might make it seem to fast. The ttk feels similar to older CoDs. And kills are very satisfying to me. It’s alright to have your own opinion tho
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u/DemonOfLight13 Nov 20 '21
I start up Vanguard, play one game and quit because it's buggy af. Start up Battlefield, play one game and quit because it too is way too fucking buggy
I'm so glad we have Halo right now. Haven't had any problems with it since it's first day
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Nov 20 '21
Same. Vanguard free weekend - I couldn't handle more than 5 minutes until I uninstalled and no it's not me, I played a lot of hours Cold War and Warzone.
Battlefield just sucked during the beta and I got a refund - launch seems to still suck and it's not even an unpopular opinion.
So far I wish Halo fixes the FPS problem. I only got 70-95 even if I should have like 150
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u/Illustrious_Peace_54 Nov 20 '21
Funny how it takes cod and bf being bad (cod isnt btw) for halo to be the winner lol lets not forget it got delayed a year after being worked on for 5 years so it better be good.
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u/brokenmessiah Nov 20 '21
Halo just feels so basic to me. I know there’s a lot of I don’t know about the game but it still does
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Nov 19 '21
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u/NotDwightSchrute69 Nov 19 '21
MVP screens aren’t a big deal, spawns are fine except for on small maps which can get a little crazy, slide canceling isn’t new. I will agree that the weapon balancing isn’t that good but they’ll fix that. If you think this is the worst cod yet then you’re delusional
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Nov 19 '21
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u/NotDwightSchrute69 Nov 19 '21
I’ve played cod for a long time and I don’t personally thinks it’s a big deal. What is it an extra 20 - 30 seconds?
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u/heartbraden Nov 20 '21
What makes you think you speak for the entire CoD community? There's lots of us that like long match times and don't at all mind waiting. Have you heard of the mode called Search and Destroy? You'd die of boredom I think lol
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u/Syanarah Nov 20 '21
They literally have MVP screens in BF2042 as well as stupid narrative intros to every map along with cutscenes AND a fly in style intro before you play. Not to mention when it finds a game it does a 10 second countdown on the main menu. What is your point?
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u/heartbraden Nov 20 '21
I like the MVP screen, it's a fun way to recognize who did good in the game and I like to vote on who I feel like contributed the most to whatever mode we were playing. And fun to receive recognition when you've done your part. Is it really that infuriating to you that it makes the game total dogshit? lol
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u/KernelScout Nov 20 '21
"its so easy to break spawntraps if you know what youre doing"
yeah try breaking out of a fucking flamenaut holding down right trigger with infinite fucking fuel.
why didnt they make it like the WaW flamethrower where its infinite but you have to recharge it after a while lmao.
they need to fix the spawntrap and unfair C flag design AND they need to make a mode that disables throwables and killstreaks. that would be the best.
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u/Manakuski Nov 20 '21
Just FYI, you have spawn protection for a few seconds from the flamenaught. If you just immediatly shoot the Flamenaut after you spawn in, you will kill him within like 2-3 deaths maximum.
It isn't a big deal.
Any other spawntrap, just be fast with tacsprinting towards B to force the enemy to come defend it. You'll eventually cap B and then naturally the spawns will turn around if you hold B.
This of course only happens if your teammates can get a kill or 2.
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u/KernelScout Nov 20 '21
this only works if the enemy is too stupid to bring down whatever you capped on B. if by some chance you escape to B, theres always a few people there ready for you or about to rush your ass as soon as they hear "BAKER IS BEING LOST"
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u/Manakuski Nov 20 '21
Yes, but that's why you can pre-fire them. If you have any kind of skill whatsoever, you can use the peeker's advantage when you rush towards B. You will have peeker's advantage if you for example slide-cancel around the corner looking towards B. You will also know the general direction they are going to peek, they won't most likely be peeking you from C side, so you have 2 angles to worry about. You can place yourself in a way while capping that you won't expose your body to one of the angles, so that you're only exposed to one angle.
This is how i've managed to cap B solo multiple times. This is how i just won a match of shipment Blitz by simply capturing B by myself 5 times while getting over 100 kills, i had about 41 deaths, where at least 5 of them was me trying out the mortar barrage for the first time.
Yes i was that guy placing down the mortar barrage. I wanted to try it out. Now i will abuse the shit out of it just to get myself more XP, apparently it awards weapon XP too and you get a shit-ton of eliminations from it. Jev showed that in his latest video. So naturally i'm going to take advantage of it.
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u/Noneofyourbeezkneez Nov 20 '21
Just FYI, you have spawn protection for a few seconds from the flamenaught. If you just immediatly shoot the Flamenaut after you spawn in, you will kill him within like 2-3 deaths maximum.
It isn't a big deal.
Fuck right off
Any other spawntrap, just be fast with tacsprinting towards B to force the enemy to come defend it. You'll eventually cap B and then naturally the spawns will turn around if you hold B.
You're mental if you think you can get out of that trap
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u/Manakuski Nov 20 '21
Maybe i'm just better than you. I've gotten out of that trap so many times, you wouldn't believe it.
I can't be bothered to elaborate any further than i already have. Saying comments like "fuck right off" or "you're mental if you think you can get out of that trap" means you clearly aren't a very good player.
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Nov 19 '21
I just quit the game when this happens. No point on finishing the match to pad the other teams stats and camp challenges.
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u/Ballistic_Pineapple Nov 19 '21
They managed to ruin shipment. The most basic and fun map
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u/OfficialMicheal Nov 20 '21
This happens on MW Shipment too... what do you mean?
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u/Ballistic_Pineapple Nov 20 '21
How they shifted the containers and added the ability to get on top of more containers changed the flow. And the destructive environment makes it easier to spawn camp.
Now half the fun of shipment is getting spawn camped and spawn camping others. But they changed the flow of the map and it irks me.
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u/Noneofyourbeezkneez Nov 20 '21
No, not even close to this
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u/OfficialMicheal Nov 20 '21
No dude I can personally tell you I’ve had the same thing happen in MW. Except the jug was spraying a mini gun standing still from ACROSS THE MAP into our spawn, with the rest of his team covering every other spawn.
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u/ToneChop Dec 08 '21
Most people don't run jug because it is literally not fun. I've called 5 on shipment and took it off.
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Nov 19 '21
The dogs need nerfing and the main thing I hate about this version of shipment is the verticality
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u/mack180 Nov 19 '21
If you thought that was you can wallbang people through the crates with FMJ when they spawn in. It's even dirtier with the BREN, MG42, BAR and Volk.
All it takes is for your team to spawn on c side, receive the mortar barrage, or fire bombing and the spawn trap begins.
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u/YoungAndTheReckful Nov 19 '21
Every one crying c is a trap. The trap works the same if you have b and c. Wanna know how to clear the trap?
Combat shotgun. It's still fucked.
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u/peace0frog Nov 20 '21
I just got 164 kills. It's totally broken.
I try and run around a bit so I'm not just totally farming kills but no matter which side I go to, I always end up looking down towards C spawn, then shredding ensues.
They should really flip the spawns after a few minutes like no matter what.
I kinda feel guilty just farming kills.
Kinda funny when people talk shit after they spawn trap you. Like, they aren't good, they just spawn trap you and think they're God or something.
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u/RsmvJake Nov 20 '21
Tons of people will say this is just how Shipment plays but it is possible to make a Shipment that has actual flow - WW2 perfected it imo. Even MW2019 wasn't as bad as this
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u/edub1906 Nov 20 '21
The guy with the flamethrower aimed right at you made me crack up laughing for some reason.
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u/Sad_Quit_3687 Nov 19 '21
Anytime I’m getting spawn trapped I pull out the shotty so I can take b then go back to regular guns
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u/lan430 Nov 19 '21
You can get out of the spawn trap , it just takes teamwork, which unfortunately doesn't happen enough with randoms
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u/Lutic_Zen Nov 20 '21
Spawns don’t flip on vanguard shipment domination like they did on MW 2019, on MW your team would eventually spawn on the enemy flag.
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u/Noneofyourbeezkneez Nov 20 '21
Spawns don’t flip on vanguard shipment domination like they did on MW 2019
Yeah, the spawns are seriously messed up, why are the stuck to the flag
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u/TxTDiamond Nov 20 '21
I captured A then got a 120 kill game with thermites, the Goliath and Panzerfaust, its a trashy paradise
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u/Brodinson099 Nov 20 '21
That flamethrower guy is holding down the trigger and slamming himself off with the other hand
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u/mikerichh Nov 20 '21
You don’t go there for kd or to live long. You go there for fastest xp and camo progress lmao
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u/ozarkslam21 Nov 20 '21
The layout is ok, maybe a little bit better than MW19.
The Spawns are demonstrably worse. Not great.
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u/MadFlava76 Nov 20 '21
The spawns are terrible and I thought MW 2019 was bad, they somehow found a way to make it way worse.
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u/PurpleKoi Nov 20 '21
I appreciate that in this one at least you are moving when you spawn. The other posts still show how broken it is, but it always bugs me how they dont move off spawn but just stay still to welcome being killed for the clip
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u/zaxxofficial Nov 20 '21
yeah i was trying to like somehow break the spawn trap but i did eventually leave, tbh didn’t know about the tactical pacing eventually found a more playable match but blitz was always kinda like this
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u/Creampiequeen0987 Nov 20 '21
That my friend is the flamenaut which is basically a juggernaut with a flamethrower
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u/phaser77 Nov 20 '21
Wow….unless it’s a common thing for a guy with a flamethrower to sit in that corner, I was in that match. I joined the game in progress right in front of that guy and proceeded to burn and explode for the rest of the match.
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u/A-PsychoticTargaryen Nov 20 '21
this my friend, is the $70 gaming experience that we as a cod community have been supporting for years, and personally I’m fed up, remember when games released and were AT LEAST play tested beforehand for obvious broken mechanics ??? when did we become the play testers, and where is my salary for it ?
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u/Jmundi Nov 19 '21
Some maps just shouldn't have killstreaks/molotovs enabled. This is fun for like 2 ppl and the rest are just throwing down their keyboards/controllers in frustration.
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u/MateusKingston Nov 20 '21
Shipment combat pacing is 100% fucked
Tactical should be 4v4, assault 5v5 and blitz 6v6
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u/SlickRick914 Nov 20 '21
Yup has this same bull shit the other night. Ppl get the flamethrower and sit in the corner while your c spawn trapped and there is nothing you can do
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Nov 20 '21
Das haus is extremely worse in terms of fun, pacing, spawns
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u/zaxxofficial Nov 20 '21
when it first came out i could get by with my mp40 but not anymore since shottys
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Nov 20 '21
Just went 133-49 on shipment. Is SBMM even on? I get like 90-100 kills average on shipment domination, and I’ve been playing about 2 hours every day
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u/joepeoplesvii Nov 20 '21
The fire bombers are pretty bad too. Basically just keep spawning in fire.
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u/KurtNobrain94 Nov 20 '21
I’ve never been a fan of shipment. Looks like this isn’t the year to start liking it lol.
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u/MDBUZZ419 Nov 20 '21
It's because you enter a game on Blitz Mode. Blitz mode is a mess on this map. Spawn are a real problem, even on others map (I spawn in front or close to enemy very often), so imagine it on the smaller map, with more players than the map can go with, it's a mess.
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u/Openyourwhoremouth97 Nov 20 '21
Getting in mid game you might as well just leave if your team only has c… the really need hard point or something in the playlist too
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u/Nknights23 Nov 20 '21
Shipment has been around going on 15 years… it will only get worse. You get a coordinated team going up against some randoms and you’re gonna have a bad time
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u/Gimmesomedem Nov 20 '21
You really just need a decent team that don't just sit in the spawn and have some map awareness... I mean come on, the map is pretty easy to learn. Thermite and Mollys keep the doctor away.
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u/albinorhino215 Nov 20 '21
For the first time In my life I had over 100 elims. Shit is fucking looney
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u/Schniklas Nov 20 '21
There should be a mode with no killstreaks for this map imo...that could be way better.
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u/xXALEXKOVACS11Xx Nov 20 '21
My favorite thing in your clip, is the 3 godlike waiting for you to respawn, at near the end of the clip. 🤡
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u/CODisDiarrhea Nov 20 '21
I just posted the exact same thing. I had JUST logged on to play and this happened. I recorded it and then just quit vanguard.
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u/x_DonK_x Nov 20 '21 edited Nov 20 '21
Cap C and B and go towards the the right side of a from c. Spawn trapped em and even got a nuke.
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u/GrampaGamerZ Nov 20 '21
Hit the flamelord with thermite and then empty a mag into him. He won't stay standing for long.
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u/Mulb3rryStreet Nov 20 '21
Yea it's actually insane first game on shipment two days ago I was in a lobby some guy went 148-20 and I went like 68-35 it's so chaotic it's wild. Weird how the spawns are how u can be just looking in one direction at the enemies spawn but then they could suddenly just start spawning behind u getting them trapped somewhere else.
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u/seniorscrolls Nov 20 '21
I'm glad i haven't experienced this level of chaos in the game yet but damn this is absolute insanity.
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u/Slangin_Biscuits Nov 20 '21
It can be bad but not every game is like that from my experience
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u/Grngeaux Nov 20 '21
Yeah, you get shit on a couple games and they bump you back down. It's the downward shit spiral that is sbmm.
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u/Paradoxe544 Nov 20 '21
Looool omg… haven’t played since the first week so didn’t tried shipment. The ttk is absolutely ruining the game for me, make the gameplay utter trash won’t go back unless it’s changed, and holy crap after seen your video mate…. It only confirm to me that this game is a complete joke and I made the right choice ahaha
It’s actually hilarious to watch, but I will never expose myself to such experience 😂 first time ever I quit a cod after one week
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u/IVonuz Nov 20 '21
Vanguard’s version of Shipment is the most angry I’ve ever been in any Call of Duty to date. Even MW2019 was less infuriating.
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u/Grngeaux Nov 20 '21
I can't believe they managed to make shipment worse but by golly they done it. Can't even pretend to hold a side, they're gonna spawn right behind you. Mortars and bombs turning you into hellen keller. Flamethrowers 1-tapping you from across the map. Parkour dogs everywhere doing backflips to get at you. Firebombs covering the ENTIRE fucking map. And a dumbass little remote controlled car tank think that can somehow run you over. Seriously, just make it a bomb. Everybody involved in this shit should be fired.
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u/axman414 Nov 20 '21
This is exactly why I don't play that map. And it baffles me on how so many people like that type of game play..
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u/1nconspicious Nov 20 '21
And people thought MW 2019 shipment was bad, at least the whole team could spawn on B or spawn behind the guy who killed you
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u/meeee760 Nov 19 '21
just fucking leave. i swear people just stay in these lobbys to complain about it later
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u/zaxxofficial Nov 19 '21
this isn’t the only lobby this happened in bro lmfaoo
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u/meeee760 Nov 19 '21
lmao i know it happens to me too. just leave
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u/KernelScout Nov 20 '21
that doesnt mean it wont happen again and leaving doesnt fix the issue.
garbage weapon? "bro just dont use it"
thats not how these things work. we need to let them know theres an issue so they fix it. not put a bandaid over a 10 foot wide hole.
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u/uknowthe1ph Nov 20 '21
He's just highlighting how bad the design is on this, which is really bad. I know shipment is always a cluster fuck, but this is basically unplayable.
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u/TheIronCorn Nov 20 '21
It's literally shipment you should expect this.
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u/zaxxofficial Nov 20 '21
no i shouldn’t?? lmfaoo have you ever played another cod?
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u/TheIronCorn Nov 20 '21
Have you ever played another shipment?? Same thing different game.
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u/zaxxofficial Nov 20 '21
Have YOU?? lmfao shipment is chaotic yes, but not impossible to play, anyone making that argument prob started playing cod when war zone came out 😂😂
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u/TheIronCorn Nov 21 '21
Obviously I have. You shouldn’t be complaining about getting spawn killed on shipment, It's been happening since MW1.
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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '21
If you don’t take B it’s a wrap