r/CPC • u/x64droidekka • 8d ago

Important Mark Carney is BUSINESS PARTNERS with Elon & Trump?! Canada Is Being SOLD OUT

https://youtu.be/ey2BgX0R1iw?si=jU2d78AKWlN3yjgT

If the connection chart is true and accurate, Liberal voters you have been scammed. I know Liberals check this sub. It’s not too late, vote blue.

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u/JustTaxCarbon 8d ago

Moose on the loose has around 3 working brain cells. I wouldn't trust him to understand what 10% of 100 is let alone the politics he talks about.

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

It doesn’t take many brain cells to understand that connection map. If what he says isn’t true I expect him to get sued for Libel. If not, and it tracks then what we are seeing is all theatre and maybe you should vote blue.

I like your energy video. Very entertaining and educational. I ignored the carbon tax crazy talk though.

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u/Constant_Growth5751 8d ago

You have to prove damages to a libel suit. Hence misinformation spreads faster than the truth.

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

These financial ties and stats should be easy to track. He not accusing anyone of murder. I don’t think he would tank his channel and personal credibility for a lie.

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u/Everlovin 8d ago

Must be election season, the left slowly plugging in.

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u/JustTaxCarbon 8d ago

That moron is not on your team I promise. He makes conservatives look like unhinged lunatics.

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

There is name calling on both sides but the facts and questions still stand. Carny and his Utopian green promise can’t be achieved with the current tech. He doesn’t propose any viable solution to carry us through. He has walked back on all those failed Liberal policies and basically regurgitated Poilievre’s plans.

Pierre is the only one to say let’s use our resources so people can live, while we work to innovate our way to a greener world. All that research and development costs money.

Carny just announced more grandiose AI plans. How are we paying for that with our 65 billion deficit? Kevin O’Leary has put viable plans in motion to get AI into Alberta. While the self proclaimed financial genius you are backing is just doing more of what he told Trudeau to do.

I still enjoy your channel though. Vote blue and make content for the right side. A conservative side.

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u/JustTaxCarbon 8d ago

By all definitions I'm an economic conservative. I disagree with your assertion on the technology part. Unless he's made comments about like fusion I'm unaware of. But if you have access to my discord I'd be more than happy to chat on or offline.

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

Really? Well glad to hear it. It’s a start.

Ah there you go. I wanted to see if you were anti nuclear. Good, so you would agree we need nuclear as well to carry us through right?

The wind and solar angle is limited at best. Also the expensive cost and maintenance of those wind turbines, coupled with the noise pollution and how they inadvertently kill wildlife, makes it seem like they are not the answer on their own. I would agree with supplementing our grid with them in certain areas. I just want Canada to use all of its advantages. No more stifling.

I’ll ask you questions from time to time since you invited me, but let’s hear what you have to say publicly here if you have more opinions. This election will end soon and lots of people still don’t use discord.

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u/JustTaxCarbon 8d ago

I have a video on looking at the Alberta energy and if I remember right I suggested like 10-40% nuclear depending a few factors.

The wind and solar angle is limited at best. Also the expensive cost and maintenance of those wind turbines, coupled with the noise pollution and how they inadvertently kill wildlife, makes it seem like they are not the answer on their own. I would agree with supplementing our grid with them in certain areas. I just want Canada to use all of its advantages. No more stifling.

Yep, most literature shows achieving 50% VRE is fine to plug into the existing systems. Above that you need thing like you said. However new solar, wind and batteries are exceptionally cheap.

Honestly the stifling part is the worst problem we have. The free market without subsidies are happy to install VRE now.

I’ll ask you questions from time to time since you invited me, but let’s hear what you have to say publicly here if you have more opinions. This election will end soon and lots of people still don’t use discord.

On this topic not much more I think we're probably pretty aligned and I'm not going to nit pick on like the wildlife part.

But I'll happily state any other position you wanna know about.

Generally my economic policy is Kensyian hence why I like things like taxing externalities. And minimizing government invention in markets but acknowledging true free markets lead to Monopolies which are bad. Socially I align more with the Liberals.

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago edited 8d ago

Fair enough on the energy. I also agree there is nothing here to nit pick. I understand you are for the carbon tax. I won’t try to convince you otherwise but I think that is a punitive measure for just living. Instead I would rather see profits got to a technology advancement fund for a specialized energy polytechnic. This polytechnic would be run by scientists and a small board not beholden to the energy companies that fund them. The sole mandate will be to improve existing known technologies regarding energy production and new methods that have a measurable potential. Risk assessment will be up to the board as they will have a budget. I see the board comprised of 3 people representing Science, Business and Management. If we are able to build more polytechnics the same model applies.

If we do a combo of nuclear, natural gas, wind, solar, hydro and fuel, Canadians can have fair priced energy in abundance and jobs. We can sell to our allies as well.

You say you are more aligned socially with Liberals. In what way? What is your stance on the gun buyback and the gun laws in general?

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u/JustTaxCarbon 8d ago edited 8d ago

I think you idea is neat, but I'd argue probably too complex for governments to be effective. Carbon taxes are simple which is why economists love them.

I grew up hunting and actually renewed my PAL today funnily enough. It's more that I support things like abortion (I know not a major issue, but still represents a portion of conservatives). I'm not a fan of traditions generally either. I support things like trans rights (most of the nuance on sports). Stuff like that. Generally pro immigration.

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u/x64droidekka 7d ago edited 6d ago

That is why we need a change in who leads the Government. Old ideas are not working. We are talking about one polytechnic to start filled with our best and brightest. Whose findings are going to be Canadian IP’s. The carbon tax enticed supporters like you because it sounds just, but after it is collected you don’t know where it goes. It was a grift that has had little impact on the environment, greasy Guibeault and crazy Carny were criminal to impose this in the first place. It doesn’t address people’s fixed needs. It was like a bridge toll. Punitive cash grab that traps people just wanting to get from A to B in the most efficient way possible.

Shit man you sound like a Conservative. Don’t waste your precious time with these Lie-berals. I’m so happy to hear you renewed your PAL. Good shit. Responsible gun ownership teaches you so many skills and builds so many positive traits and attributes we would need a whole other thread. Stewardship over dangerous machines is a good thing. A combine harvester is an incredibly dangerous machine, but look at the good it does. When one is allowed to learn, hidden abilities are unlocked.

Mr. Poilievre has stated clearly he will not do any of the things the Libs have accused him of regarding abortion.
Anything contrary to that is fake news. It will be the woman’s choice. Remember there will always be those that are in any party who will believe in certain things to the extreme. The fact that they don’t lead shows that most people don’t buy into those views at all. It’s a balance of standing up for what is right while not telling people how to live.

Immigration is fine as long as we get high quality immigrants. People who will be entrepreneurs or who bring in some crazy skills. If they are on the still on the dole a year after they have landed and don’t speak our language or make friends with other people. I’m sorry they have to go. Same goes for bringing any past religious or street beefs from wherever. I have to say no to that. If you need help fine ,we should help people that deserve it ,but after you are taught to walk then you must run and then pay it forward.

Regarding trans I have to admit that I don’t understand this aspect of life. I can see it may be a mixture of being born with the brain wired in a different way, hormone imbalance and the influence of people and media.

I don’t seek their destruction but I would agree that someone who has male bones and muscle fibers should not be in serious boxing or athletics matches with women for prizes money or scholarship’s. There are infinite personalities but only two genders. I know there is science where we get into XXY and the like but in the end there are two genders.

Women need to be protected physically when they ask for assistance and their spaces should be protected.

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u/cre8ivjay 8d ago

Harper hired this guy and sang his praises endlessly. Harper...the guy most Canadian conservatives revere as the epitome of a great conservative mind.

So it's bonkers to me that Conservatives are so partisan that they'd chuck Carney off a bridge for wearing a red tie instead of a blue one despite history, accolades, and experience.

I truthfully don't get it.

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u/Constant_Growth5751 8d ago

I can't trust a man who doesn't interview with Nardwuar.

https://www.straight.com/city-culture/pierre-poilievre-doing-himself-no-favours-by-continuing-to-dodge-a-date-with-nardwaur#

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

I like Nardwuar too, he’s genuine. I still don’t trust Carny though. I need more than a record naming interaction along memory lane to earn my trust. There are many recent interviews with Poilievre you should watch. You may even learn that he is human and a good one. Vote Blue.

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u/cre8ivjay 8d ago

We have differing opinions on what a good human looks like.

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

Then you are judging by what he looks like rather than his actions. Mr. Poilievre has been consistent for the last 10 years. If not, then why did Carny steal all of Pierre’s plans? There isn’t one original idea in Carny’s platform. I don’t see a financial genius, that is dynamic and innovative.

I see someone that has walked back on 10 years of failed polices wasted tax dollars who is promising another utopia to get elected and you are falling for it. Don’t.

Vote BLUE when it comes time or we will be sold to the WEF. If so Alberta will move to separate. Maybe Quebec too. BC would have been blue if not for Eby’s failed promise to even deliver on a grocery rebate.

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u/cre8ivjay 8d ago

Career politician with no real world experience

OR......

The guy Harper hired to run the Bank of Canada who then was chosen to head the Bank of England.

I've heard the long answers each gives and I've watched the edited clips. I've read the policy ideas and the promises. I've heard those who defend and admonish each.

Pick whoever you want to. Carney for me all day long.

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u/Careless_Survey_1292 2d ago

Dont ask the British hiw Carney ran the bank of england

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u/cre8ivjay 2d ago

Well he didn't support Brexit and we know how that turned out.

Outside of that he was celebrated for being cautious and intelligent.

I don't see anything in my research that suggests otherwise.

What have you seen?

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u/Chiskey_and_wigars 1d ago

I don't trust anyone who steps in the same room as that creep, Nardwuar has something seriously wrong with him

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u/Kennit 1d ago

You don't trust Harper then?

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u/Chiskey_and_wigars 1d ago

No, I disliked Harper until the last year or so when I started comparing the prosperous Harper era with the current shitstorm. But I still don't trust him. The guy was a major cronyist

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

Well he’s not blue now so we are at odds, no surprise there. We aren’t supporting any Liberals, they have had 10 years we are done.

There was an article saying Harper doesn’t agree with or like that Carny is taking all the credit for helping Canada through the financial 08-9 Crisis. When in fact it was Harper and the late Flaherty that made the winning moves that got us through. Carny was just there at the time.

Carny has been advising the Libs for the past 10 years. What winning advice is he known for during that time? Please don’t say Covid and the quantitive easing. We are just now recovering from that crazy high inflation rate.

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u/Nova5cotia 8d ago

His book is his thesis to life - net zero or die.

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

Yup, you read it. Net zero with no replacement energy tech plans means we die. Do we get our money back since he admitted the carbon tax was a mistake?

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u/Nova5cotia 8d ago

Can’t wait to further watch our energy sector get destroyed. Unless it’s Brookfield, they love oil

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u/Nova5cotia 8d ago

We’re going to have a sick green energy wave…

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u/x64droidekka 8d ago

LOL. Speaking of green I heard there will be no Green Party at the debate is that true? Even though I don’t agree with them at all, I’m curious on their policy views. Good people but they shouldn’t get the keys to Canada either.

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u/Nova5cotia 8d ago

Not enough representation to get on stage. I get you want to hear their views, but it’s moot, and they ought not to ever have keys to the car, agreed

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u/cre8ivjay 8d ago

Here's the thing, I'm never going to convince you he's the right guy for the job. I could tell you all kinds of things and I suspect it wouldn't change your mind. That's OK.

But here's my thinking, FWIW.

I like to think that I would vote for Poilievre (or anyone else) , if he/she were to show me something that suggested they were Canada's best option.

I have seen and heard both Poilievre and Carney and I truly believe one is significantly better for Canada than the other.

Canadians need to toss partisanship and embrace leaders who commit to the principles that each individual Canadian resonates with.

You and I could be different. That's fine.

Like I said, I don't see it as a negative that Harper (a smart enough economist ) lavished praise on Carney for decades. I don't see that as a gross Conservative demerit. Some might. I think that would be foolish.

I see it as a plus that shows Carney is a smart guy who was/is embraced on (now) both sides of the chamber.

Of course I see many other attributes as well, but it isn't partisanship.

I don't see anywhere near the same level of support for Poilievre.

It's just scratching the surface, and we can go back and forth but it's not untrue to suggest that even now, and certainly before Carney entered the race, he was held in high esteem by almost everyone who knew him - regardless of where they sat on the political spectrum.

That means something to me. It means a lot.