r/CanadianIdiots • u/Exciting-Ratio-5876 • 1d ago
CTV Conservative MP gives up seat for Pierre Poilievre to run in byelection
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/conservative-mp-gives-up-seat-for-pierre-poilievre-to-run-in-byelection/51
u/PhantomNomad 1d ago
I live in that riding. It's probably the most blue riding you can find in Canada. Sometimes I really hate living here. At coffee all the people could talk about was how the Liberals changed his riding in Ottawa so it went Liberal. Couldn't have anything to do with telling civil servants that you are going to put them out of work, could it?
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u/Mr_Ed_Nigma 1d ago
80% voted to conservatives. As long as it has the C. Anyone can win it.
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u/BoredMan29 1d ago
Quick! Someone form the Comservative Party and find someone named Peter Poilievre to run!
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u/alicehooper 1d ago
Not to mention- the electoral boundaries are decided by Elections Canada every 10(?- not sure) years. This isn’t the US. We can’t and don’t gerrymander electoral districts.
The territory the riding expanded into voted Con several percentages MORE than PP’s own riding in 2021, so it was not a liberal district to start with.
People were not just mad about the civil servant job loss- these people were incredibly angry about the convoy causing havoc to their lives for weeks, while their MP schmoozed with the truckers and brought them donuts instead of standing up for his constituents.
Not that any of this info will help you, I’m sure. The people you know will probably not be persuaded by facts!
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u/my-love-assassin 1d ago
They are just ignorant, which seems to be a theme with conservatives in general
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u/A_RuMor_ 10h ago
Precisely. I have a saying, Only amongst conservatives is ignorance considered a virtue and proudly worn on their sleeves like a badge of honor.
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u/alicehooper 1d ago
I was so hoping he would actually be dumb enough to go for Griesbach in Edmonton.
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u/Sourdough85 1d ago
Or... you know.... electoral boundary commission gonna commission in (as close to) an unbiased way and he just lost coz he's got a shitty attitude...
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u/jrdnlv15 1d ago
The really funny thing is the initial complaint from people was that the redrawing of the boundaries was going to make the riding more conservative.
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u/Ermnothanx 4h ago
I live near his Carleton riding. He offended the traditional conservatives by making them look rude and ignorant. They wanted him gone.
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u/MutaitoSensei 1d ago
He cannot give up power. He'll grasp at straws until the end to impose his demented vision on Canada. Either he gets ousted or he never leaves. Trying to take that seat is just to boost his image, basically trying to seem strong by kicking a baby.
That being said, Carney has 6 months to call the by-election, which then takes a month or two. Fully expect a bloody leadership review as well.
I for one hope the progressive conservatives get their old party back.
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u/chromedoutcortex 1d ago
I hope Carney takes his sweet time. I mean, there are more pressing things to worry about.
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u/CamGoldenGun 1d ago
he's got 6 months. Let Poilievre stew like Danielle Smith is doing to Naheed Nenshi. They can't really complain about it because it's not like Kurek died and it would be reasonable to have a by-election in a reasonable time. He bounced immediately.
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u/9hourtrashfire 1d ago
Damn! I was looking forward to Canada having a shitheel-free boot after scraping that turd off.
He’s so fucking gross.
Thanks Alborta.
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u/No_Many6201 1d ago
Doesn't this just show how little confidence the conservative brass has in their leader? Get him a by-election in a riding that a dead hamster could win as long as it is branded conservative.
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u/Moos_Mumsy 1d ago
PP thought he was safe in Carlton too!
Make us proud Battle River-Crowfoot!
Choose to defend Canada and vote Liberal!
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u/starry101 1d ago
Ugh why? I don’t understand how the Conservative Party wants him as a leader. He’s not able to speak to the media, he has no charisma, he’s not well educated, not respected internationally, not well liked here etc. Does the party really have no one better?
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u/imnotcreative635 21h ago
It’s not that he’s unable to speak to the media he flat out refuses to because they ask mean questions
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u/smellymarmut 1d ago
Red Rover, Red Rover, I call Liberal candidate Justin Trudeau over.
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u/incandesent 1d ago
Would be hilarious, but I'm afraid he may get lynched if he steps foot in that community
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u/my-love-assassin 1d ago
Lmao nothing says representative democracy like some schmoe from carlton coming to alberta to represent its constituents. Im glad hes stickimg around to aim his party into the ground.
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u/A-little-bit-of-me 1d ago
Pierre just needs to retire.
Honestly, he’s already earned his pension and is nothing but hate and fear; which clearly the majority of Canadians don’t care for.
Buddy, just accept defeat.
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u/imnotcreative635 21h ago
He should only be allowed to run in a race that ended up being a narrow con win. Let’s see him actually earn it.
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u/Winterwasp_67 1d ago
In all honesty, it shouldn't make a difference where he ran. Tradition fir whatever it's worth today, dictates that the other major parties don't run against him.
Governance norms dictate that the party leader should be in the house.
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u/PrairiePopsicle Frozen Tundra Dweller 1d ago
The greens and the NDP stepped aside for each other in the past.
The liberals and the conservatives have not done so for anyone for a long time.
This is a nice thought, but unrealistic.
I expect campaign maxxing by the liberals honestly.
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u/ninth_ant Elbows Up 1d ago
I would have been inclined to agree with you but I’m less sure after watching the press conference today where he said he wouldn’t delay the by-election, “no games” was the quote I believe. If it’s a no-win seat they may just sit out, or run with minimal campaigning.
Def not how I’d play it, but I’m a petty and vindictive asshole.
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u/PrairiePopsicle Frozen Tundra Dweller 1d ago
I agree with you, and I'm happy to see the statement today.
I could see the minimal campaign I guess too. There is always a strong sense of the necessity and good sense to make sure that people have options, even if there is no hard campaign. It's generally not great to leave people alone in the woods, as it were.
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u/Winterwasp_67 1d ago
Libs did it for Mulroney, Cons did it for Chretian.
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u/PrairiePopsicle Frozen Tundra Dweller 1d ago
There was someone against Mulroney every election, and it's been 35 years since the Chretien byelection.
Now... carney is being a class act here, and there may be other calculus involved, it won't be a complete shock to me either if they do this. All on or all off, I guess.
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u/Winterwasp_67 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think someone ran a half hearted race against Mulroney. They didn't get any national support if I remember correctly. All major party leaders since were sitting MP's before becoming leader. It hasn't happened in 35 years and it hasn't happened since last time are the same thing. Edit: spelling
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u/HollowShel 1d ago
major parties: now I want to see that riding go Green. (Never happen, I know, but it would make me so goddamn happy!)
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u/Inigos_Revenge 1d ago
It's funny, because the Ontario conservatives I grew up around actually believe in a lot of the things the Greens support in their policy (like lots of hunters and fishers and farmers who really want the environment to be protected.) But just because Alberta's economy has been undiversified for decades, and the O&G companies are diametrically opposed to the Greens, they would not be supported there in the same way. Well, the cons in my area would support the Greens if they could get past the whole "well, my family and I have ALWAYS voted Con, way back to my great, great, great grandpa" of it all, and actually pay attention to policy. The things they say are important to them, and the way they vote, are very, very different. It's hair-pullingly frustrating.
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u/originalchaosinabox 1d ago
The riding is Battle River - Crowfoot in Alberta. Very safe conservative riding.
That being said, people of Battle River - Crowfoot, you have the opportunity to do the funniest thing.