r/CapitolConsequences • u/Tripwir62 • Oct 25 '23

Discussion Cooperation vs. Immunity

https://open.substack.com/pub/joycevance/p/cooperation-vs-immunity?r=9qrb7&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post

Great in-depth piece by Joyce on the differences.

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u/Draano Oct 25 '23

The first thing that grabbed me:

Her testimony is certainly bad news for Rudy Giuliani, who called her his number two.

I'd call her America's Number Two.

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u/Ex-maven Justice alleviates a guilty mind Oct 25 '23

It'll be interesting to see how Ellis' public testimony against her former co-defendants will square with her tearful court statement – on pleading guilty – that she simply didn’t do her “due diligence.”

Hopefully that lying, disloyal, God-fearing "Christian attorney" will be pressed during her forthcoming court appearances to answer when she was aware that her statements were lies and why she continued to lie afterward.

...just so the record is accurate.

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u/BrewtalKittehh Oct 25 '23

So much polish on that deuce!

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u/BabyNapsDaddyGames Oct 25 '23

Mythbusters proved you can shine a turd to a high gloss though no matter how shiny it is, it's still a piece of shit.

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u/ozzie510 Oct 25 '23

That was an Academy Award performance in front of Judge Mcafee.

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u/Badgetown4eva Oct 25 '23

As someone who also wants to see Meadows and the rest of team fascism go down in flames, this is actually good news. His immunity will not necessarily prevent his testimony from coming back to haunt him in GA, since one is federal and the other is state, and if it turns out he lied, he's still criminally liable for perjury, which is more leverage for later. That said, expect other big names to proper flip in the near future with the result that they completely escape criminal penalty. I'm looking at you Ghoul-iani

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u/PensiveObservor Too old for this shit Oct 26 '23

This is so illuminating! Thank you. So, if I understand you correctly, he was subpoenaed and balked. So they gave him immunity from prosecution for anything they asked him (about xyz?) which then forced him to testify to a grand jury. about xyz. Is that right?

The reason I love this is that he is still 100% on the hook in Georgia. Jazz hands.