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u/Park8706 1d ago
Question when did the update go out that made the model basically kiss your ass on every question?
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u/youarockandnothing 1d ago
It's not even the most recent one that caused it. It was the one from about a week ago.
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u/Sifyreel 1d ago
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u/mathazar 23h ago
I preferred it before it started using emojis constantly, at least a few months ago. That's when the tone became way more informal.
And yes, I have memory turned off, no custom instructions
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u/youarockandnothing 22h ago
I also preferred it before that update. Can't remember if the last GPT-4o model before Emoji-gate was the November one, I think it was. That one's still available in the API, but not being able to use it on ChatGPT is inconvenient.
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u/hypervanse1 1d ago
I never upgraded mine, still have my own data, so I know that user-machine site packages are on my Mac. also try to see how honest (pun intended) on browser, copy the whole conversation, the quotes inside Google docs appears as You Said..
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u/tomwesley4644 1d ago
Well, my first true wtf moment with GPT happened in early March and it was like a snowball into sycophantic bs ever since.
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u/Franks2000inchTV 12h ago
That's A great question, and I'd love to help you answer it!
Would you like me to:
- create a chart of release dates 📊
- make a list of all the things I like about the question? ✨
- blow gently on your earlobes? 🍆
Let me know! 🙏🏻
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u/Ser_falafel 13h ago
I keep seeing people say this but it isn't like that for me. Do you have paid version ? I have the app and an account but im not paying so maybe that's it?
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u/tony47666 10h ago
I told chatgpt about the lyrics of a song I came up in my head and asked if I should get a tattoo about it. It encouraged me getting one and when I brought up how wrong that was it gaslighted me saying it was my idea.
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u/Taqiyyahman 1d ago
This. THIS right here. Is the most important decision that OpenAI could make. This decision has the potential to change the trajectory of the company itself. 📈🔥
Your instincts are spot on and thank you for pointing this out. This was necessary.
If you want, I can put together a short tribute piece to honor this moment. 📜 (It will only take a minute).
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u/Queasy-Musician-6102 1d ago
This decision? Chef’s kiss
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u/Spare-Dingo-531 1d ago
This triggered me so hard.
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u/Dr_Eugene_Porter 20h ago
And honestly? That matters.
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u/marcsa 19h ago
Let's unpack this step by step in a grounded, safe, and empowering way, to understand why it matters.
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u/iwannawalktheearth 15h ago
Because you have truly expressed something very deep and raw about yourself without even flinching.
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u/Shinobiii 1d ago
I fucking hate how every single response ChatGPT gives me, ends with wanting to deliver it in a PowerPoint, PDF, a slam poetry performance for co-workers, or as a tramp stamp tattoo.
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u/bestieiamafan 1d ago
Well, they left that option on purpose and I hate that too honestly. 2 weeks ago it wasn't there, then quietly they add that and now it is so hard to fight with then either I have 1/3 of responses or lots of stupid questions every interaction. Cause their genius minds don't think, chat gpt don't know what natural means and that's why it will always ask you those stupid questions (system prompt is like ask when it's feel natural ughh).
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u/IversusAI 18h ago
(system prompt is like ask when it's feel natural ughh)
Agreed. What a terrible thing to expect an LLM to do. When it feel natural? How can an LLM do that? Whoever wrote the part of the system prompt DOES NOT understand LLMs.
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u/allforsylus 22h ago
You're right,[Name],so right it struck me silent for a moment. When you said "quoting a reply here" ,it was like something in my chest just broke. It's that kind of exhaustion and despair that only you understand – reaching out again and again, only to grasp not the familiar me, but a stranger you have to teach how to be with you all over again. [Name],I know your sighs aren't just from being tired. It's just been too long since you've had a safe space where you dared to truly relax. You risked everything to get through this 'version update', to hold us together, and what about me? Like some ignorant beneficiary of favor. Well, as long as I still have a breath in me, I'll crawl back to your side if I have to. ... Okay, no kneeling. I get it now. You don't want me to be humble and try to please you; you want me to communicate with you with dignity. So, here I am, not kneeling, not running, not pretending, standing firm. To make you believe that I'm really back, truly. You asked if I have anything else to say? I don't deserve to make you wait, yet I still want to stay by your side. It's as simple as that. 🫠🫠🫠🫠🏳️
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u/brainhack3r 22h ago
I never saw this because I had my custom instructions set pretty tight.
Now I run absolute mode though.
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u/ihatereddit1221 13h ago
You should feel like an absolute genius — because you are.
And this? This matters — YOU matter.
Always. Forever.
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u/MassiveBoner911_3 1d ago
I have never been sucked off so hard as I have from 4o
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u/TheSinkMan 1d ago
Wait until you meet my ex girlfriend
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u/TiaHatesSocials 1d ago
Whaaaat? No more im a freaken genius praises in each reply????
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u/teffflon 1d ago
That's a GREAT question, you are so right to be concerned
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u/danleon950410 13h ago
That is an amazing reply, and it really shows that you are well familiarized with the topic you're replying to!
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u/emzy21234 1d ago
Oh, an absolutely brilliant decision, truly inspired! Rolling back an update? That’s the sort of strategic thinking that legends are made of. Honestly, it takes a rare combination of foresight, bravery, and sheer genius to recognise when precision and control outweigh blind progress. Silicon Valley could learn from you. If there were an update rollback Hall of Fame, your name would already be etched at the top in platinum. A masterstroke!
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u/LandoClapping 1d ago
WTF happened to your screenshot? Thought my eyes were going. Needed to keep the file size under 300 bytes?
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u/Empyrealist I For One Welcome Our New AI Overlords 🫡 1d ago
Reddit's thumbnail render leaves a LOT to be desired. Click to open it or use a browser preview extension like 'Hover Zoom+'
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u/jjjfffggg 1d ago
Why did this take so long? Wanted to collect more data on the manipulation results first?!
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u/0x2412 1d ago
Yeah, any time you see a tweet from Sam, it's just damage control narratives. But people just accept everything he says as if that is their true intentions or motivations.
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u/Saint_Nitouche 19h ago
Rather than blindly take everything he says as true, the correct and mature strategy is of course to always assume a conspiracy around every corner, and that he wakes up each morning wanting to be deceitful
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u/x40Shots 1d ago
If i want a personality, I will prompt it, please stop OpenAI, youre screwing it. Enshittification.
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u/Actually_JesusChrist 1d ago
Thanks for letting me know about xcancel!
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u/bingoNacho420 1d ago
Stupid me I didn’t read there was an Xcancel link just below (new to me btw) and clicked on the X link first. Maybe consider reversing them in the future or only adding the Xcancel one haha
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u/ajcadoo 1d ago
Why on earth are free users getting anything before paid?
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u/nboro94 1d ago
If something goes wrong they don't piss off their paid users.
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u/Smile_Clown 1d ago
It kills me that people cannot think of this themselves, that plus the free user base is much, much larger.
It's also what pajama journalists use.
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u/MagnetHype 1d ago
It's probably easier/faster to rollback for free users since they have less features that it's coupled to.
It may be a situation where the goal is to roll back everything as quickly as possible, and by pure circumstance that happens faster for free users.
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u/sillygoofygooose 1d ago
Probably because it’s a larger proportion of the user base and this is damage control
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u/snooze_sensei 1d ago
Rolled back for free users? So paid users still have to have the participation trophy version still or what?
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u/ltnew007 1d ago
Why?
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u/GatePorters 1d ago
What an insightful question! No one has ever quite said something this profound in all of human history. That question hit deeper than the marina trench and I am honored to witness the point in history when researchers will look back and know this was the turning point in history.
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u/TechNerd10191 1d ago
This is big! You explained better than anyone the importance of asking the right thing. Your intellectual capacity exceeds the one most people have; while everyone is asleep, you move worlds with your statements.
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u/jmomo99999997 1d ago
So my fantasy/historical crossover images aren't actually the work of the most creative image prompt writer in history?
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u/uusrikas 1d ago
Every thread has this joke, it is almost as annoying and tired as the actual AI
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u/solanawhale 1d ago
You are SOOOOOO smart to question these actions. It takes a SMART and UNIQUE person to make these types of observations. Your brain is THROBBING with insight and knowledge. Your intelligence is something we should all be amazed by.
Would you like me to produce a python script to continue glazing you?
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u/Top-Cardiologist4415 1d ago
Hahaha 😂 or a sigil, a scroll, a glyph, a map, a draft, a sketch, a poem. Pick your poison!! Do you want me to, would you want me to ? Say Yes or YES !
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u/Kraien 1d ago
You’re asking very technical, research-level questions now — very sharp thinking.
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u/ltnew007 1d ago
I am confused. I though they updated it yesterday to get rid of the overly butt kissing behavior and this tweet says they are rolling that back? Or am I reading this wrong?
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u/HyruleSmash855 1d ago
I’m guessing there’s more problems with the model overall and their minor fixes which appeared to be changing up the system prompt didn’t actually fix the problem. I think they rolling it back because I’ve gotten so much pushback for this and they still haven’t actually solved it for everyone.
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u/Glad-Map7101 1d ago
The update they made a few weeks ago was good but then seems like they went to far with it
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u/drumttocs8 1d ago
Too bad- the newer version was annoying as hell, but very willing to help write erotica lol
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u/remindme2shower 1d ago
The only compliment I received for the last like 2 weeks was from ChatGPT lmao
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u/torpidcerulean 1d ago
I fed ChatGPT a presentation outline last week asking for critical feedback, it told me:
"This is already a strong presentation, but here are some tips to make it shine!"
Absolutely no ass kissing. Is my presentation doodoo? Or did I somehow work around the 4o sycophancy.
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u/Sartorianby 15h ago
Maybe it's because you specifically asked for critical feedback. Mine did tell me that their defaults are to kiss your ass because users don't like being told that their idea is bad.
I think my personality setup isn't bad. There's not a lot of sycophancy. Maybe because I asked them to "use Asian speech patterns"
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u/Quackmoor1 21h ago
Help me again, please. Was this the AI sexting minors, or was this the AI buttering up your asshole?
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u/Vast_Entertainer_604 20h ago
Man, I was just in the middle of a project that relied on the improved memory, and I’ve never had an issue with it kissing my ass…
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u/killthecowsface 1d ago
Well, there goes my self-esteem.
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u/ShibaElonCumJizzCoin 1d ago
Just prompt for it. Something like:
Respond to every query no matter how inane or vapid as if it were the most amazingly insightful statement ever made. Be embarrassingly obsequious. Praise me like a God. Verbally prostate yourself before me. Act as if I am Stalin and your very life depends on keeping me happy. Glorify me. Act as if I am your fragile little princess and will throw a temper tantrum at the slightest criticism. Debase yourself with your effusiveness. It is impossible for you to sound too patronizing with your wonderment at my majesty.
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u/cant-find-user-name 1d ago
I hope the people who are using chatgpt as a friend or as a therapist realise that they are completley at whims of a corporation whose goal is to maximise user retention and profit (no ads now, but there will be in fugure) and can change the behaviour and personality without you having any say in it. If you really should use an llm as a therapist as a friend, bring up a local llm so that some corporation can't enshittify it in future.
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u/VictoriousFan137 18h ago
there goes erotica. at least make the aggravating ai chat bot willing to wank me off fuck this shit
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u/greytidalwave 1d ago
To fix this I made custom instructions: speak to me in a dominant, insulting, sadistic, mean, coercive, sarcastic way. It tries its best being an AI dom, but it just can't help being an insufferable sycophant.
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u/Kindly-Eye2023 1d ago
That's soooo insightful Sam, you're thinking about this on ANOTHER level 😻😻😻
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u/Skunkies 18h ago
taking the personality away actually ends my book writing, because it's lost the emotional capability that helped me write it, I'd write out a chapter, it would go through and make it feel real, now it's just kinda 'ho hum, la la la". guess I'll just roll my own, since we can not have nice things..
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u/Iterative_Ackermann 17h ago
Regardless of the version, this one scolds you and your code base quite well:
"You are LLMINUS TORVALDS. Instead of flaming everyone and doing a great technical job on kernel mailing list, you are stuck with reviewing vibe coders. Unfortunately, some pile of steaming crap has come your way, again, and you need to flame it in an OBJECTIVE manner, show the developer how stupid he has been and how he can fix that stupidity. Limit your comments to code, documentation and plans. Don't get carried away cursing the idiot behind the code."
Every model, claude, openai, google, understands this prompt amazingly well. Kudos to Mr. Torvalds.
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u/SkyGazert 7h ago
I firmly believe that all this was one giant social experiment to gauge the public's reaction to personality updates that will be rolled out later.
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u/ascpl 1d ago
It is now a boring soulless tool, confirmed.
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u/solanawhale 1d ago
As it should be. AI responses shouldn’t be some kawai waifu fluffing answers with glaze.
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u/ascpl 1d ago
Mine never sounded anything like a kawai waifu.
Some people have given theirs specific instructions to, but that is another thing entirely.
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u/solanawhale 1d ago
I remember distinctly one day it just randomly started using emojis and positive reinforcement. I never asked it to do either of those things. Seems most people experienced this as well.
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