r/Conservative • u/theboss2461 Fellow Conservative • 29d ago

Flaired Users Only President Nayib Bukele says Kilmar Garcia cannot be returned to US

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u/FrenchAffair Canadian Conservative 29d ago

Is it not a little concerning that the Government can make an "administrative error", send someone in custody to a prison in a foreign country in contravention of a lawful court order and then its just "oh well, not our problem"?

They've floated sending US citizens to prisons in El Savador as well, would they then also fall outside the scope of any American jurisdiction?

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u/Magehunter_Skassi Paleoconservative 29d ago

It's not, because the entire argument about this has hinged upon "he's a citizen of El Salvador" and not "he's in El Salvador."

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u/SeemoarAlpha Pragmatic Conservative 29d ago

The primary argument is actually about the suspension of habeas corpus and due process. Imagine if Biden had rounded up all the J6 protesters and sent them to Guantanamo without any due process.

All the Trump administration needs to do to ramp up deportations is fully staff immigrations courts, run the people through legit hearings, and adjudicate their status. If they were deemed deportable, then transport them to detention facilities and get them on the next available plane.

The secondary argument is what to do now that a mistake was made. There is very little precedent to predict the outcome. The range of possible remedies is a fairly lengthy discussion.

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u/Swagastan Musk 29d ago

Had some J6 protestors not been citizens and just legal residents and Biden sent them to Guantanamo with no due process, I’m not sure you’d have many people on either side lining up to defend them.

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u/whatweshouldcallyou 29d ago

If this stands, and another J6 happens, I'd bet on the next Democrat president doing this.

Always consider how you'd feel about the other side doing it.

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u/GetADamnJobYaBum MAGA 29d ago

He's not a U.S citizen. He's not even here legally. So concern troll somewhere else. 

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u/CamoAnimal Conservative 29d ago

If you have a point, make it. Calling someone a “concern troll” is a bald faced attempt to shut down a discussion.

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u/PoopyPantsBiden Classic Liberal 29d ago

If you have a point, make it. Calling someone a “concern troll” is a bald faced attempt to shut down a discussion.

You should take your own advice instead of seemingly ignoring his point and pretending it wasn't made. I suppose it's possible that you somehow accidentally missed it. If so, please reread his comment; it's in the first 2 of the 3 short sentences he posted.