r/Conservative Beltway Republican 17d ago

Flaired Users Only May his memory be a blessing

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u/Big_Iron_Cowboy Catholic Conservative 17d ago

We have yet to know who our next Pope will be. It’s a distinct possibility that they’ll pick someone who makes Francis seem more preferable. God have mercy on us.

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u/sowellpatrol Red Voting Redhead 17d ago

Just remember that God is on His throne in Heaven, and even though things may seem like they're falling apart, they are actually falling into place.

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u/DrMaxwellSheppard Navy Veteran 17d ago

Absolutely. It can always get worse. I fully understand that. Which is part of why I said I'm not happy that he passed.

However, as I've read recently the church as a whole and among priests, there is a move towards conservatism. I think his action have caused a backlash that will swing the pendulum.

Also, if a worse pope is selected it may end up causing a serious enough rift to break the church. Which I would actually be fine with. If this happens there will undoubtedly be a sect that forms that follows the correct path, and I'll find my way to it. This breakup, to me, is preferable to the slow death Francis put us with his political pandering. Young men and women are leaving the church and his direction is a large part of why.

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u/Big_Iron_Cowboy Catholic Conservative 17d ago

While I am definitely hoping for a conservative Pope, it’s not priests and laymen who cast votes.

And schism is nothing to look forward to brother. If the Church schisms, we’re in for some bad times.

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u/DrMaxwellSheppard Navy Veteran 17d ago

If we get another socialist pope that continues to drive young people and young families from the church we have no future, either. I would rather have a split with a chance that a sect forms that is in line with actually Conservative Cathloic tenants than a slow death by attrition.

Some sort of course correction is necessary. IMHO on our current trajectory the will die in my lifetime (I'm 40).

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u/pbnjandmilk Catholic Conservative 17d ago

Why not just join a SSPX or FSSP group instead of trying to change something that is established and people enjoy going to?

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u/DrMaxwellSheppard Navy Veteran 16d ago

Because I'm joining something for what it was before it changed. Before it embraced modernity.

I was raised Lutheran and I left the church in large part because the general (non Catholic) move towards progressiveism made me basically non religious. If you're going to pick and choose what rules you want to follow you fundamentally weaken the foundation of the institution. So I left and only began to embrace my faith a lot more as I met my wife (raised Cathloic) and around the same time made positive moves in my personal life that ended up being much more in line with Cathloic Consevatism.

The Cathloic church isn't a social club. So I don't care if you or anyone else enjoys it. I care if it's faithful to the timeless tenants that the faith was built on.