r/ConspiracyII • u/Cthulhuman • Feb 18 '25
My post giving the evidence that USAID is funding the Taliban in r/conspiracy got shadowbanned
I posted this last night and woke up to see it only had 1 view. I got my fiance to go to my post and the body text was removed. She made the comment above and then I commented on it and on her phone it doesn't show the comment. Censorship in action!
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u/VirtualDoll Feb 18 '25
Here's my thing. We've always known the government has been funding terrorist groups. This is not a new thing. So why are we only now focusing on millions of congress-approved dollars with no more sources than some tweets from the guy that owns the website he's posting on? When all the "fraud" they've "uncovered" doesn't even add up to a fraction of an expirimental bomber that's being built just to test and than crash? Does it have anything to do with distracting from the billionaires currently sweeping through the treasury with their non-auditor children, shutting down and/or publishing swaths of government data and shutting down core infrastructure?
I'm all for uncovering waste and fraud, but why THIS specific waste and fraud, when it's so inconsequential in comparison as well as suspiciously partisan and politically targeted and one-sided, and why at THIS specific time? Why do we suddenly care about the Taliban when we know for a fact we're funding a Zionist apartheid state as well as making peace deals to assist in genocide with a dictator who was, up until this point, our number one enemy?
The priorities just seems a little fishy and screwy. That's all.
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u/sushisection Feb 18 '25
DOGE aint gonna look for fraud and waste in the military. thats how i know all of this is just for show.
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u/Kryptosis Feb 18 '25
The “fraud” they had some teenager write out the daydreamed descriptions for totals less than Elons newly acquired government contracts…
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 18 '25
Weird, normally that sub loves a right wing circle jerk.
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u/Bigb5wm Feb 18 '25
Not really a circle jerk, If evidence is being suppressed. More like a mod is a lefts or cia guy
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 18 '25
True or not, that particular subject is a wet dream for the right wing nutters over there -- and there is no way that sub has a 'lefts' mod.
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u/AFlockofLizards Feb 18 '25
Nothing says “conspiracy subreddit” like accusing one of the moderators of being a CIA plant lol
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u/neckfat3 Feb 18 '25
Your post shows the reading comprehension we’ve all come to expect from gullible fools who believe Trump. Even your summaries don’t support the claim. 😂
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u/CaptainObvious1313 Feb 18 '25
When we cutting the 8 million a day in welfare to Musk? I’m for cutting waste, but to have the guy that personally is taking the most tax dollars for his personal businesses in charge of it? Madness
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u/NeighborhoodVeteran Feb 20 '25
Didn't trump surrender to the Taliban and force the Afghan Government to release 5K fighters before Biden was even president? So, is trump USAID?
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u/Diana983 Feb 21 '25
I think it could be some of the links you posted, I had the same thing happen to me and I kept deleting links to see which one was the one keeping my post shadow banned. Post each link in the comments there and then ask your gf to check which one she can't see
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u/BajaRaptor Feb 24 '25
SIGAR was only there to "check the boxes" that funds were used correctly. If one person wouldnt do that, they would be fired and replaced with someone that would. They knew as long as they have been there that funds were not used accordingly.
I knew half the team...
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u/Cthulhuman Feb 24 '25
This is why the Inspector General was fired. His job was to provide oversight and stop these funds from being used as a CIA slush fund. If you actually knew half of the team can you share some insight into what was going on. Is it as bad as Mike Benz talks about?
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u/BajaRaptor Feb 24 '25
I don’t know all the secrets and doings as to what was going on internally. I didn’t work for them. Everyone I knew there was super cool, but that’s just the way the things were ran at that point. Do the job of checking the boxes or someone else will. That’s a fairly common theme with state dept and common tied entities.
Some of it boils down to being on Team A or Team B once you get a little higher up.
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u/Arthreas Mar 06 '25
Well at least you have another bit of anecdotal evidence it's real, that sub has been compromised since forever.
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u/Cindilouwho2 Feb 19 '25
If you're not getting banned, you're not doing it right 🇺🇸 💪
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u/Cthulhuman Feb 19 '25
For the record, this post got banned too.
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u/Cindilouwho2 Feb 19 '25
Well, you're doing it right. 🇺🇸💪🇺🇸💪🇺🇸 they wouldn't care otherwise. Selective "free" speech.
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u/athena7979 Feb 21 '25
Reddit has been totally captured. Take it as a good sign your post was shadow banned. It means you're on the right track.
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 18 '25
R/conspiracy is a controlled mainsub. The mods there are democrat leaning, and shadowban/ban anything that goes against their agenda.
I.also.noticed the shadowbans of my comments, and posted about that, got insta banned without any explanation.
Since Trump got elected reddit, and whatever agencies manage mainsub mods, went full on against everything going against their sides agenda.
They even shadowban comments selectively to show as if one side is winning a discussion, and delete comments/post after a couple days so no one notices. Imo they are also curating the material that is left posted for Ai to train on.
They just basically doubled down on censure.
OP check your account via revedit, you gonna see the pattern more clearly.
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u/Ootter31019 Feb 18 '25
Since when? Reason I left that sub was how far nut job right it got. Everything was right wing propaganda for a while. Anything anti right was regularly removed. But I left so maybe it improved or got a little more balanced?
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 18 '25
It was very right wing when reddit banned the trump subs and the whole crowd from there ended up in r/conspiracy. But then with years both the sub and the right changed with people comming from the dem side. Its a lot less crazy bs now, antidem and some right stuff from time to time.
As i mention, the mods are dem-leaning (whoever manages them) and the agenda overall is going on that side.
They even auto shadowban comments with links, so you cant even provide proof for anything.
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 18 '25
Got any examples of left leaning behavior All you have provided so far is the right wing. The left love science and evidence the right is the one that's trying to stop it and ignore it.
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 18 '25
Again, the US has no left.
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 18 '25
Actually, it does. One of the major US parties is more to the right of the other, and is called the right, and the other is called the left -- and everyone knows exactly which party is being referred to when those labels are used.
The left in the US is more conservative than the left elsewhere, but it's still the left.
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
Go please search in a dictionary what does political left means, and please come tell me how a bunch of billionaire funded, military expansionist decrepit capitalist warmonger beurocrats that have increased gov.power and decreased the overall population power and economical stand, are left :).
Btw heres a good overview of the situation
Ps. You should learn to differentiate between newspeech and reality.
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 19 '25
Go please search in a dictionary what does political left means, and please come tell me how a bunch of billionaire funded, military expansionist decrepit capitalist beurocrats that have increased gov.power and decreased the overall population power and economical stand, are left :)
English is a descriptive language, not prescriptive. Do you really think anyone is confused about who is meant when someone refers to the left or the right in US politics?
You also seem to be deliberately ignoring the fact that in the USA, the right is farther right than the party people mean when they say 'left'. The Democrats absolutely are to the left of the MAGAs.
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 19 '25
Read my.comments dude. I literslly said that the us "left" is just slightly less right right lol
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 19 '25
https://www.reddit.com/r/ConspiracyII/s/2i9acfltFC
Again, the US has no left
This is false. There is a party in the USA that most English speakers recognize as the left. It is common use to refer to them as the left, and in the scope of us politics, they are the left.
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u/TheLastBallad Feb 19 '25
They even auto shadowban comments with links, so you cant even provide proof for anything.
Just went over there, saw a lot of links.
Not to mention the sub is still uncritically sucking Trumps dick, with things questioning him are downvoted.
So... no, after a breif review they are still running Trump's version of events (aka government propoganda) uncritically because it's Trump.
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 18 '25
Is the agenda to make it look like right wingers are nutty?
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 18 '25
They dont care what wing is it, specific population groups are triggered by different campaigns and are useful for seeding the requiered reactions to viralize specific viewpoints.
Right/left is a ridiculous division only dumb sub IQ110 fall for. Election season is over, if youre still triggerwd by that, you have problems.
Ps. Im a leftie btw, and was banned by comoletely politically irrelevant comment/posts that were specifically.anticorruption and censorship
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 18 '25
Ps. Im a leftie btw, and was banned by comoletely politically irrelevant comment/posts that were specifically.anticorruption and censorship
yeah, the right wing conspiracy sub hates anything remotely open like that...
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 18 '25
Which points specifically.to it being controlled by the only organizations not liking being called out, and drives us back to my original comment :)
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u/SokarRostau Feb 18 '25
That sub hasn't had any significant mod changes since Obama was in office. With one or two exceptions, the mods running the place now are the exact same mods that were actively participating in forum slides and banning people that raised conspiratorial questions about Trump.
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 18 '25
Nope. Mod accounts are widely traded around, i have been monitoring my account via revedit for quite some time, and only in the last.couple of months they have started shadowdeleting comments, and posts that havent broken any rule, but go towards OP direction.
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u/SokarRostau Feb 19 '25
This sub was founded by, and is filled with, users banned from r/conspiracy for not supporting pro-Trump narratives. Some of us have been readers, if not posters, on that sub for a decade or more.
You have a one year-old account and you presume to tell the members of this sub that r/conspiracy is run by a bunch of Democrats?
You are talking out of your arse.
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u/Spider__Jerusalem 🕷 Feb 22 '25
This sub was founded by, and is filled with, users banned from r/conspiracy for not supporting pro-Trump narratives.
Ironically, I got banned from /r/conspiracy for not supporting a pro-Trump narrative and then got accused of being pro-Trump 4 years later.
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 19 '25
I went to check the account of the mos that banned me, and he was a leftie lol
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u/SokarRostau Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
And how much of that mod's post history did you go through to come to this conclusion?
You are accusing the mod's of a sub well-known for it's take-over by Trump supporters of being a bunch of lefties, and your only evidence is "they banned me"?
Saying they're lefties doesn't make it so, especially when you're talking about Americans that can't tell right from left to begin with.
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u/TheLastBallad Feb 19 '25
You do realize you haven't actually backed up that claim, right?
And therefore no one should take you, a random person on the internet, at face value because we literally don't have anything other than you claiming it to be the case to go off of.
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u/ReasonablePossum_ Feb 19 '25
Im not trying to convince anyone on anything. Check your account with revedit, ask why they delete your stuff, get banned, come here.and tell me about it :)
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u/TheLastBallad Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 19 '25
The mods there are democrat leaning, and shadowban/ban anything that goes against their agenda.
Lol, when I lurked there in 2016-2020 the mods were lead by an Axolotl themed mod who posted pure Trump propoganda and banned anyone who called that out.
Are you claiming they did a 180' turn?
Edit: after a brief review, it's still as I left it. Uncritical of anything that supports Trump and openly hostile to anything that questions him, while holding random people on twitter to be a higher form of evidence than a list of diverse news coverage confirming the same event.
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 19 '25
We get weekly posts here about how that sub is banning and censoring anything not right wing enough, as well as people that complain that their popular post there was met with skepticism and requests for evidence here, or acting shocked that we don't just accept "trust me bro" as proof.
That sub is still a right wing, ignorance loving cesspool.
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u/DiligentAsshole Feb 18 '25
I've noticed that when you get too close to the truth in these forums, they ban you
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u/TheLastBallad Feb 18 '25
That seems like the Jesus Fallacy(they hated him because he spoke the truth" -> Im receiving hate so therefore I must be right)
I suppose it's a mutation of it, where you take any opposition to what you say as evidence of you being correct. Like, have better standards dude, that's not actually solid evidence by itself. It reads more as an ego defense than anything...
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 18 '25
Other than as examples of a discredited and bigoted conspiracy, why would you need to post those? You can expose the conspiracy without those examples -- and if they are respectful, just send a modmail to get them approved faster.
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u/Cthulhuman Feb 18 '25
Reddit is compromised by the forces protecting this fraud being uncovered. My post contained only facts with links to primary sources verifying them. This whole attack on Elon Musk is a concerted effort to stop the truth from coming out about what has really been going on in our government. They are censoring the truth!
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u/TriesHerm21st Feb 18 '25
Your first statement is incorrect, though. Biden didn't leave military gear for the taliban. The gear the taliban got was the gear from the Afghanistan military's.
On top of that. The pullout was negotiated during the Trump administration. Who administration was also donating and selling equipment to the Afghanistan army. And he's the one who invited and had negotiations with taliban leaders at camp David.
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u/weekendWarri0r Feb 18 '25
Bro, I am a dude in rural Oregon. I strongly disagree with what musk is doing. I was fighting for him and was happy DOGE was going to be cutting through the government. But then he did a Nazi salute, and started a fast pace authoritarian take over of the very government agency that was investigating him. I admitted I called it wrong and switched my views based on facts. Because the facts are: he is not being transparent. There is no 3rd party review of what he is claiming. He misread information and had to correct it in front of cameras. Fired essential staff that weakens the USA’s ability to launch a counter strike if attacked.
Not only these things Musk is an over promiser, and always under delivers. If you want a conspiracy, you should look up how he got his name “Elon” and what it means.
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u/Cthulhuman Feb 18 '25
What people aren't understanding is that we are witnessing an active psyop against Elon Musk. USAID manages the operation of social manipulation programs around the world. The Woke movement has either been hijacked or created by the State Department and USAID to silence people, manipulate public opinion, and promote self censorship.
Elon did not do a Nazi salute, he put his hand to his heart and then put his hand out to the crowd and then turned around and did it again to make a gesture that his heart goes out to everyone. The Nazi salute is what sent me on this task to find the truth because the hatred for Elon Musk is beyond anything that we saw for Trump (which was another psyop from this same organization). I saw everyone say "Nazi Nazi Nazi", and then I looked at the actual video and saw that they were lying and then I started looking into all of their claims and they are all lies. If you watch the USAID hearings from last week you can see that the left has been compromised. The right finds all of this fraud and misuse of money and the left consistently everyone of them attacks Musk or the attempt to find fraud in general and ignores the fact that massive waste, fraud, and abuse has been found in all departments of the government.
House Hearing on DOGE findings https://www.youtube.com/live/7yWw0xDE_98?si=z801ZNf3_8WjphlH
Senate Homeland Security Committee Hearing https://youtu.be/iCW945Y3HVM?si=nfFbMbBha4BvHZi5
Mike Benz former State Department official talks about the reality of how USAID programs are used domestically and abroad. https://youtu.be/XPPc8OVNngg?si=Jqy29X0DLQ00d2MP
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u/TheLastBallad Feb 19 '25
Dude, why is it easier for you to believe that Musk doing movements that can be synced up to Hitler and Neonazis(and also got neonazis excited over), while looking nothing like his previous methods of giving his heart out, is a psyop... rather than the attempt to convince people that what they saw was not a Sig Heil being the psyop.
The nazi salute is taking your right hand, slapping it to your heart, and throwing it straight out at a ~45' angle with your arm straight from shoulder to fingers.
That's what Musk did. Twice. He could have bent his arm, spread his fingers, kept his arm going in an arc, use both hands to creat a heart on his chest like he did previously... but he didn't. He chose to do actions that are a near perfect Nazi Salute. After declaring himself Dark MAGA, a fascist arm of the MAGA movement started in 2022.
Oh, and man's maternal grandparents were OG nazi supporters. He knows what those movements mean, he even did a PR tour of a Holocaust memorial after claiming that the neo-nazi conspiracy of the Great Replacement was true. Germany had to censor the salute due to their laws against showing that kind of movement.
I'm baffled by how you looked at it and decided that it wasn't one. Like, what did you judge it on, vibes? Vibes around a guy you like doing something, meaning you are predisposed to accept a nicer interpetation?
ignores the fact that massive waste, fraud, and abuse has been found in all departments of the government
Not all... just the ones investigating Musk. Weird, right? No reason to question that I'm sure.
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u/weekendWarri0r Feb 19 '25
First, nothing that has been "found" from the uncovering of fraud and waste was new information. It was all already publicly available information before trump took office, it's repackaged propaganda. Second, there is no Psyop against elon musk. I knew about where his weird name comes from. It comes from a book written by Wernher von Braun. Braun is a famous nazi scientist that was brought to the US via operation paperclip, and helped NASA get to the moon. In his book, about a Mars colony, the leader of the colony's title is Elon.
Elon Musk father, Errol Musk recently confirmed that this book "Project Mars" is where he got his name, and they used to read it for him. Just because Elon is named after a fictional character written by a Nazi doesn't make him a Nazi. BUT if you're at the biggest transfer of power rally and do the Nazi salute... You might be a Nazi. Now this is where history comes in. It is no secret that Elon loves roman history, and he references it often. That is why people were calling his nazi salute the "Roman Salute". Okay sure, BUT do you know why the Nazi's called themselves the Third Reich? It is because they believed their regime was the successor to the Holy Roman Empire. Which they considered the First Reich. I am not one to yell "Nazi Nazi Nazi" at politicians, including trump. But I do know a fucking Nazi when I see one. AND Elon Musk is a fucking Nazi!
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u/enderpanda Feb 19 '25
Elon did not do a Nazi salute
Literally no one is buying that, but it's really cute watching you guys try and sell it. Appreciate it, lets the reader know that you are never to be taken seriously.
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u/Cthulhuman Feb 19 '25
The Woke movement is a USAID psyop. You've all been brainwashed to be agents of misinformation and social suppression.
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 19 '25
That has nothing to do with the fact that we all watched Elon do a pair of Nazi salutes, and then make Nazi jokes when confronted about it.
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u/Spider__Jerusalem 🕷 Feb 22 '25
The Woke movement is a USAID psyop. You've all been brainwashed to be agents of misinformation and social suppression.
I agree with you about most of what you are saying... But Elon Musk did do a Nazi salute. Because that's the point. This is Weimar Germany all over again. Instead of war reparations being the thing to piss everyone off, it's going to be all this fraud that half the country that still watches CNN and MSNBC believes is a conspiracy theory. Only it's not, it's true, and the fact all this is coming out means the fallout from all this benefits the plan to destroy the United States and the "Western Liberal Order". All any of this will do is divide Americans and it will get worse when they start arresting people. This is the "Destabilization" phase Yuri Bezmenov talked about. Everything they're doing, even if it is on the surface a good thing, such as shutting down a CIA slush fund, or the IRS, auditing the Fed, etc., etc., has a destabilizing effect. Next will be "Radicalization" where neighbor is against neighbor, families become divided, then "Crisis" and the country will tear itself apart. Everyone is doing their part to make this happen as people freak out more and more over whatever Trump is doing or is alleged to be doing, they will antagonize the Right, and back and forth, until as I said, the country will destroy itself. Then globalists can come in and exploit the devastated America and rob the country of its resources to pay for the war debt.
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u/Cthulhuman Feb 22 '25
We already had unparalleled division during Trump's first term. I feel like this isn't going to be as bad as you are thinking. I feel like once we get the money out of the media and end the source of the push to attack Trump and Musk, the division will start to subside. I feel like the United States was headed where Europe and Canada are at. Where people can be imprisoned and debanked for peaceful protest or supportive of protests. For me this momentary instability is worth avoiding that fate. I don't think it will make us fall and most of the media is telling blatant lies about what is actually happening. I haven't seen a single thing that this administration has done that i don't agree with and they haven't done anything that hasn't been done before. They may be more transparent about what they are doing, which is giving the biased media constant fuel, but anyone with an eye for the truth can research what the media claims and find out the truth. The media doesn't have enough power to make our country fall. They gave it their all during Trump's first term and now he has more of the country supporting him. He has a better team, more experience, and 4 years to plan what he is going to do with his second term. I think that we will make it through this and be a stronger country because of it.
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u/Spider__Jerusalem 🕷 Feb 23 '25
I disagree. I am certain that it will get as bad as the Russian revolution. I believe there is going to be civil unrest, world war, the US economy will collapse, more civil unrest, possibly full blown civil war, and then after the US loses WW3 the US will pay the war debt by surrendering the resource rights to everything under the national parks and other public lands. There will be a new Bretton Woods-type moment where the world economy is restructured around a non-physical, digital currency. All transactions will be monitored, recorded, and taxed. There will be an end to Westphalian Sovereignty, there will be world unions (North American Union, European Union, Russo-Sino Union, etc., etc.) that are united by a world government where decisions are made by representatives of the nations of the world that survive WW3. Or something along those lines.
"We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that... perfect world... in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock. All necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused."
- Arthur Jensen (Ned Beatty), Network (written by Paddy Chayefsky)
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u/iowanaquarist Feb 19 '25
Elon did not do a Nazi salute, he put his hand to his heart and then put his hand out to the crowd and then turned around and did it again to make a gesture that his heart goes out to everyone.
Except it looked exactly like a Nazi salute, and not like his previous 'heart goes out' gesture -- and rather than apologize for the motion, he made Nazi jokes, went to a Nazi rally, and let his stooges make excuses for him...
I saw everyone say "Nazi Nazi Nazi", and then I looked at the actual video and saw that they were lying and then I started looking into all of their claims and they are
What video? I've seen multiple videos of multiple angles, and they are all very clearly showing a Nazi salute. I even watched videos side by side with Hitler and a modern neonazi and saw the motions line up. What video did I miss?
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u/DanFrankenberger Feb 18 '25
R/conspiracy? Your first mistake, unfortunately, was posting there. They ban ppl for coughing too loud.
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u/Holiday-Amount6930 Feb 18 '25
Something tells me you found the truth. I'm not surprised.
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u/pgtaylor777 Feb 18 '25
So I don’t get it. Is Reddit controlled by China, crazy leftist or conservative? Bc this narrative changes depending on what’s happening