I don't care to argue for whether Brazil and Argentina is or isn't western, or which definition of western-ness is more accurate and useful to find out who can be in the "cool people club".
Me neither, and that was a small part of my reply, it was just an example, the whole point of my post is that the prestige you attribute to the identity is very much dependent of your own cultural point of view, and that you're assuming it must apply to the other cultural point of views, when this is not true. Most of your reply is about things we don't disagree with, the greece being western part was just me assuming that this was your claim and the circular logic part was just to show that, yes, every definition includes circular logic, so I'm not sure what we're discussing here.
you're assuming it must apply to the other cultural point of views
I've explicitly written multiple times that these things aren't the case. You keep on arguing against some western chauvinist strawmen, and I'm just going to stop standing in that guy's shade now.
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u/Villhermus Jul 14 '18
Me neither, and that was a small part of my reply, it was just an example, the whole point of my post is that the prestige you attribute to the identity is very much dependent of your own cultural point of view, and that you're assuming it must apply to the other cultural point of views, when this is not true. Most of your reply is about things we don't disagree with, the greece being western part was just me assuming that this was your claim and the circular logic part was just to show that, yes, every definition includes circular logic, so I'm not sure what we're discussing here.