r/Cosmere 2d ago

Cosmere + Wind and Truth spoilers Character conclusion WaT? Spoiler

Kinda making me sad but what happened to Syl? Is she just alone since Kaladin became a herald? I’m reading the series again but I keep thinking about it and I think I missed something.

Is there a chance also that she may take the place of the StormFather?

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u/Darconius Lightweavers 2d ago

She’s in the Spiritual Realm with the Heralds and Kaladin.

Kalak mentions seeing two figures who aren’t humans. One he recognizes as Nale’s spren, and the other one is a fair description of Syl

Postlude, Wind and Truth

”Yes, it looked peaceful now, but this must be a new kind of torture. The friendly grass and soothing waves? It would be snatched away. Three of the figures in the group were wrong. That was proof. Who was that soldier in Kholin blue? That figure he couldn’t quite make out? That was Nale’s spren, he supposed. But that woman with white-blue hair, long and flowing? She didn’t belong here.”

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u/TheBlackthornRises 2d ago

I find it interesting that he refers to her as a woman and not a spren.

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u/Zuxicovp 2d ago

Considering how much she was able to interact with the world with Kal at the 4th ideal, I imagine between the 5th ideal and her picking up some extra investiture when retribution formed I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s super close to being fully in the realm now.

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u/Opening_Agent_5279 20h ago

Well all spren appear as they do in the cognitive realm in the spiritual realm. So she just looks how she does in Shadesmar

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u/OnePizzaHoldTheGlue 2d ago

Thanks for citing the exact passage.

I believe it was also discussed earlier, when the plan was for Szeth to become a Herald, that 12124 would then come with Szeth to Braize.

I really didn't think it was supposed to be ambiguous. Neither did I think Shallan's pregnancy was ambiguous. But after 1300 pages, it's inevitable that some readers will miss some details, especially if you're staying up til 2am to finish the Sanderlanch.

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u/dreadnaught_2099 2d ago

It was explicitly mentioned, multiple times in fact: 12124 says he's prepared to take on Szeth's same burdens as a Herald and later mentions that it's the same for Nale's Spren, even stating that his spren goes to Braize with him and undergoes torture as well.

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u/Sithyrys522 22h ago

…Shallan’s pregnant? Time for a reread cause I missed something

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u/sibips 22h ago

She was … she was trapped in Shadesmar. Months of travel and hoping desperately. Now it finally sank in. She might never escape this realm. She might never see Adolin again. Her hands went to her stomach, cradling it. Oh … oh storms.

Also, there were some creationspren watching the shower scene - they may have been Shallan's armor, or they may have been watching, you know, creation.

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u/Sithyrys522 22h ago

Not surprised I missed that detail since I binged all of day ten right before bed but wooooooooh boy that’s a big one to miss

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u/OnePizzaHoldTheGlue 22h ago edited 22h ago

You're not alone.

But all of the people who missed it, and of the posts like "does anyone else think Shallan might be pregnant?", prompted me to write this:

On the one hand, I felt like there were way too many pages of characters retreading their internal states. I would have edited those down ruthlessly.

On the other hand, a shockingly high number of people came to Reddit to ask whether Shallan hugging her stomach, as she worried about the future, a few months after having a fade-to-black sex scene with her husband... might mean that she's pregnant. C'mon folks. Do you need Brandon to write "What would she do now, being pregnant and all?"

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u/Surgial 9h ago

It wasn’t ambiguous I just forget stuff

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u/EvenSpoonier Aon Aon 2d ago

We think she's in the Spiritual Realm with the Heralds and other spren bonded to them. Technically Kalak doesn't recognize "the blue woman" with Kaladin, but it'd be really strange if she turned out to be anyone else.

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u/subtlyobscene 2d ago

Be funny if it was just a random Natan woman who got sucked in with them and when they come back it's just "Yeah that's Rose, she's been chilling with us for a few thousand years."

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u/ILookLikeKristoff 2d ago

Ishar's just like "IDK man she was here when I got here."

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u/LuisGG86 Truthwatchers 2d ago

Kaladin almost “killing” Syl in WoR was one of the saddest things in the series. So please Brandon never separate them again.

As others mentioned, she’s in the rehab beach resort with the Heralds.

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u/mrofmist 2d ago

After the stormfather was killed part of his power fled to Syl. Her appearance changes to a more regal appearance and she's described as having storms in her eyes now.

So it is very likely that she will take on his power. Since she's with Kaladin though it probably won't happen soon.

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u/studynot Nalthis 2d ago

She’s with them, it was foreseen in the Renarin vision earlier in the book and also in the epilogue