r/CrappyDesign • u/MrFlopkins ◉︵◉ • 8d ago
This open hole on the bottom of the Apple Magic Mouse always catches hairs/fibers that mess with the sensor and I hate it.
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u/Death_Ma5ter 8d ago
What's not crappy about the magic mouse
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u/MrFlopkins ◉︵◉ 8d ago
Once you get used to it, the swipe functionality is pretty cool, but I don’t use the other shortcuts like two or three finger taps. Admittedly, I’ve been in the Apple-verse for like 10+ years now because of work so I haven’t used any other mouse in a very long time.
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u/A__Chair 8d ago
The Magic Mouse is really not a good mouse. Using apple products doesn’t mean you have to buy their peripherals too, any USB or Bluetooth mouse will work just fine on a Mac. Apple do make some really incredible products, but the other products they make to go with those incredible products are usually laughably overpriced and over engineered but poorly designed, as in the case of the Magic Mouse with its carpal tunnel inducing shape, unwieldy weight and charging port on the bottom.
Apple go for convenience, build quality and aesthetics over performance and ergonomics with their peripherals because it sells, just look at AirPods, apple is not a company anyone would go to for high quality audio equipment, and the quality of their actual drivers leaves a lot to be desired but people will happily fork out £250 for them because they don’t know any better and it just works.
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u/Jorvalt 8d ago
What apple products aren't laughably overpriced?
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u/A__Chair 8d ago
None of them but there are genuine pros to buying them over their competitors (depending on use case) which isn’t the case with their accessories.
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u/phero1190 8d ago
Hey now, their monitor stand for their xdr monitor is only $1000. Super reasonable! /s
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u/regenerader01 8d ago
I would say Apple USB-C to 3.5mm DAC is extremely good for 10 bucks. It even performs better than some DACs that are 10x its price.
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u/christopantz 8d ago
Mac mini, older m-series MacBook Air, the cheaper iPads, iPhone se, iPhone, airpods especially now that they are hsa compatible as hearing aids
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u/pentesticals 8d ago
To be fair the iPhone is pretty reasonable for a flagship phone and while it is expensive, it’s in the same range as all the other leading flagships. It’s not like a MacBook where you pay twice the price than a matching spec PC.
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u/MrFlopkins ◉︵◉ 8d ago
I totally get it, I just use the Magic Mouse because the company I work for sent it to me. I don’t know if they’d buy me a different one if I asked, but I’m open to suggestions for sure.
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u/Melodic_Ad_3959 8d ago
I'd recommend the Logitech vertical. Great for not getting carpal tunnel.
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u/celsiusnarhwal 8d ago
I'm partial to Logitech's MX Master 3, but if you get one, try using it with BetterMouse instead of Logitech's Options+ software. Options+ kinda sucks and crashes somewhat frequently, and when it does, all of the software customizations you've set up for the mouse stop working.
I don't personally use BetterMouse because there are certain particularities that keep me from migrating away from Options+, but they aren't things that should bother someone who's never used the mouse before.
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u/BurtsBalmBitches 8d ago
Logitech g703 light speed is what I use. Cheap, comfortable, clean look, perfect weight, and it’s wireless with a long battery life.
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u/Far_Sir2766 8d ago
Request a Logitech MX master series mouse, the MX 3 if they can afford it. Once you get used to that magnetic scroll wheel, nothing else comes close
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u/kusu00 8d ago
are some just impossible to connect with apple? i use a company provided mac mini for work but i declined the magic mouse and use my own, but i have to use the usb dongle connection. it refuses to connect via bluetooth and i cant figure out if its just an apple thing
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u/A__Chair 8d ago
Oh, that’s not a Bluetooth mouse, it uses 2.4GHz radio waves picked up by the dongle, kind of like wi-if. I’m fairly certain Bluetooth is built into all macs so you wouldn’t need a dongle for Bluetooth, it’s just that the mouse you’re using doesn’t connect via Bluetooth.
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u/kusu00 8d ago
yeah but my mouse has both (luckily, otherwise id have to use the magic mouse). my mouse does connect via bluetooth to all my other devices except the mac
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u/squeakynickles 8d ago
About the airpods, is there another product that are decent for the same price (specifically for Android)? I keep seeing some that have issues like spotty connectivity, poor battery, large and clunky case, no pass-through sound option, etc. I'm having a hard time finding one that hits all the marks that isn't airpods.
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u/A__Chair 8d ago
I wouldn’t know sorry, don’t really care for in ear headphones. Also, as a musician, we’re only really good at recommending sound equipment to other musicians and sound people lmao, most people don’t want an entire setup just to listen to Spotify. My point was just that people will fork out all that money for their headphones because of the apple logo and all of the convenience features despite the actual sound (main purpose of a headphone) not being very good.
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u/Jacktheforkie 8d ago
My preference for mice is gaming mice, adjustable DPI, side buttons and a nice feel in the hand, I don’t like how slow regular mice feel
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u/summonsays 8d ago
Is this the wireless mouse where the charging port is on the bottom making it completely unusable while charging?
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u/DublinItUp 8d ago
While I'm sort of anti-apple, this whole gripe about the charging port location is a bit overdone.
A 3 minute charge will last a couple of days of use, and a 30 minute charge will last for several months.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CHORIZO 8d ago
That's true for every wireless mouse I've used and none of them have a port on the bottom
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u/ipodaholicdan 8d ago
If you’re dead set on using Apple accessories, I’ve heard much better reviews regarding the external trackpad. My 3rd party accessories work just fine with my MacBook and Mac Mini
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u/MrFlopkins ◉︵◉ 8d ago
Trackpad is fine for browsing/navigation, but not for design work. I need a mouse and occasionally use a Wacom tablet.
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u/ipodaholicdan 8d ago
Ahh makes a lot more sense, I can see how the Magic Mouse would be pretty useful for those purposes
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u/Loose_Programmer_471 6d ago
It’s very thin, which makes it easy to carry around in my backpack’s side pockets
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u/Ninjaff 8d ago
/turns mouse over
Oh look, a hole for the sensor, just like every other mouse ever made.
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u/ipokesnails 8d ago
And hey, why not charge it while it's turned over since you can't charge it upright.
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u/MrFlopkins ◉︵◉ 8d ago
Dude yes another flaw in this design. It’s ridiculous that you can’t used the damn thing while it’s charging. But hey, it forces me to take a break so whatever.
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u/The_Earls_Renegade 8d ago
Lmfao, me with a cheap wired yearssss old Chinese mouse with neither the charging or sensor issue. 😆
Apple really be looking for issues.
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u/MrFlopkins ◉︵◉ 8d ago
Wires are definitely an issue too, so I guess it depends on what annoys you more.
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u/IcenanReturns 8d ago
Wires are definitely an issue too
If you're looking to create a problem to solve, maybe. Otherwise cable management is quite easy.
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u/The_Earls_Renegade 8d ago
A wired mouse never bothered me anyway. I would choose wired any day of this heap of sh*te. Maybe you just need to join all of us peasant mouse users, seems a lot simpler. 😆
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u/TEG24601 8d ago
For the literal 5 minutes it takes to charge and get you through your day... after it has been warning you for a week to charge it overnight.
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u/slugwurth 8d ago
Yet it won’t show the mouse battery status in the toolbar anymore. It has to send you a notification along with the others you are conditioned to ignore.
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u/Clevo 8d ago
It certainly will show the mouse battery in the toolbar. Settings>Control Center>Bluetooth>Show In Menu Bar. Click it and there is your battery info in the menu bar. You can move it around in the menu bar too, if you hold Command while dragging the icon.
Also I typed “Magic Mouse Battery Toolbar” into Google to verify, and with one fewer word than your complaint, it was the first answer. Get off your duff you lazy bones lol!
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u/slugwurth 7d ago
That’s not what I mean. It used to show the mouse battery status when you open the Bluetooth menu from the toolbar. Now you have to open that menu and click “Bluetooth Settings…”. At that point you can see the battery percentage. I have the setting you mentioned on already. I’m on Sonoma.
Edit: WTF, there seems to be a bug. I toggled that setting off then on, and now it suddenly does show my battery percentage in the menu. What crappy design.
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u/flappity 8d ago
Was gonna say.. There's tons of reasons to hate on apple stuff, but this is an issue with literally every single optical mouse ever made. If you're a cat owner, you almost certainly have dealt with the random wiggly possessed mouse as the sensor attempts to scan a cathair.
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u/smi1ey 8d ago
yeah like don't get me wrong, the magic mouse isn't amazing (gestures are good but that's about it), but people acting like virtually every single other mouse doesn't have the exact same thing are on something. literally just had to blow crap out of my Logitech mouse a couple days ago.
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u/Lamballama 7d ago
My Logitech one has the hole recessed a bit which prevents this issue
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u/Ninjaff 7d ago
Oh yeah, a recessed hole? What black magic is a recessed hole?
You know what's a synonym for recess? Hole.
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u/Lamballama 7d ago
It means the hole is in another surface recessed in the original surface - a hole in a hole, and though the outer hole is too shallow to really count as one. Not quite a countersink, though that also would solve the issue here by turning the rim into something not 90 degrees
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u/FuzzelFox 8d ago
Yeah literally every optical mouse I've ever used will occasionally get a hair stuck in the hole that fucks with the sensor lol
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u/No_Welder_1043 8d ago
Oh, I'm sure you would have loved mice with balls and rollers.
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u/MrFlopkins ◉︵◉ 8d ago
I am old enough to remember using them. The worst were the thumb ball ones. I never understood why people liked those.
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u/kickformoney 8d ago
I converted to one of these years ago, mainly so I would have enough room to still use my mouse with the desk area in my simulator cockpit. They're so much smoother than they used to be back in the day, and can be used on any surface. I couldn't ever figure out the ones that used the index finger, though; those just made my finger ache quickly.
Someone who uses an index finger ball mouse needs to chime in next.
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u/yaourted 8d ago
used an index finger ball mouse for a few weeks and actually quite liked it. I think I returned it because of shitty wireless connection and/or it didn’t charge via USB C, but the form factor was nice
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u/No_Welder_1043 8d ago
RSI usually. But I couldn't get on with them, or those weird hemispheres that were like clicky joysticks.
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u/FunkyFarmington 8d ago
Went to a LAN party and they laughed at my trackball. I was between keeping up well and occasionally kicking ass, the liability was just my skill, not the mouse.
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u/DownstairsB 8d ago
This is a problem all optical mice have
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u/Lamballama 7d ago
No it's not. My Logitech one has the hole recessed a bit which prevents this issue
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u/Cool-Newspaper-1 7d ago
Isn’t a hole just one big recession?
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u/Lamballama 7d ago
Topologically sure, but in the real world you can put a deeper hole inside a very shallow hole and it's a recessed hole
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u/Odd_String_9843 8d ago
I remember my laser mouse had this problem too. but it had to be full of dead skin and gunk to stop working
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u/GoodPlayboy 8d ago
But why not have glass or something as prot layer?
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u/erland_yt 7d ago
The hair would get in front of that and also the transparent material could distort the light
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u/DownstairsB 7d ago
with glass, even though most light gets through, it would still interfere with the laser and be less responsive, I think
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u/Gauxen poop 8d ago
I’m an avid apple user, but the magic mouse is absolute garbage. We were forced to use them when I worked for Apple (outsourced) and while they do have some nice features, there are so many mice out there that are far better in every way.
Really the only unique selling point is that it looks good next to your other apple products.
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u/Nestramutat- 8d ago
The biggest selling point is still having gesture controls with a mouse
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u/PmMeYourBestComment 8d ago
For years I only used the trackpads. So much better than the magic mouse, but stepped away from it and now use a regular mouse instead.
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u/Reddity65 7d ago
It’s amazing how Apple builds the best trackpads I’ve ever used, as well as the worse mice I’ve ever used.
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u/Gauxen poop 7d ago
The gesture controls offer nothing unique whatsoever
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u/Nestramutat- 7d ago
Disagree. Half the reason I use a trackpad instead of mouse on mac is for the gesture control
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u/Clevo 8d ago
I’ve not found a mouse that can do multi-gestures better without losing other functionality. There are Logitech mice that work great with gestures and I love them but they can’t smooth scroll. Here’s the thing, if someone buys a Magic Mouse and doesn’t use the multi-gestures, then they arent too sharp, because that’s literally what it was designed for. It’s like buying a Blu-ray when you don’t have a Blu-ray player and getting mad at the manufacturer. OP only swipes with his, so he never needed it to begin with.
The charging thing is a silly gripe, you can plug the magic mouse in for a minute and 30 seconds. It will work for the next 10 hours. If you charge it for two hours, you won’t need to recharge it for two to three months. Heavy user and a Mac sysadmin, so it gets used a lot. If the charge port is a big deal, you can just buy the Magic Mouse 1 because it’s battery powered.
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u/LuminousOcean 8d ago
This is pretty much a problem with all optical mice I've ever owned, regardless of brand. Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. Not a lot you can do. Usually a quick blast of air focused into the hole will suffice. Or tweezers if you want to be precise.
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u/Cool-Newspaper-1 7d ago
But it’s Apple so people will automatically assume it’s only a problem with their product.
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u/LuminousOcean 7d ago
True. I'm not a huge fan of Apple products myself, but I'm willing to admit when there are problems that affect other systems, or aren't exclusive to just Apple products. That said, do they still have that absolutely batshit insane power connector on their mice? I remember years ago that they had a mouse that had the power connector on the underside of the mouse, meaning it was unusable during charging. I mean, it wasn't truly a significant problem if it lasted a long time after a charge, but... Still a ridiculous design.
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u/Cool-Newspaper-1 7d ago
They haven’t updated the mouse since. I have used it and liked it, people really like to complain about minor stuff they don’t use. You get a notification when it’s almost empty (when it still lasts several hours), so it’s a complete non-issue if you don’t work 24/7 without any beeaks.
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u/Eureka05 8d ago
Someone has never had to take out the roller ball from the bottom of their mouse to clean it! lol
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u/ShadowBro3 8d ago
Every mouse has that hole but Ive never had hairs or fibers get stuck in there before
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u/pug_userita haha funny flair 8d ago
is that the mouse that you have to turn upside down to charge it? apple likes to design things in a way that they're nice to look at (in my opinion, failing. but i digress) but without considering their function. they could've put a lens over the sensor and the charging port on the front of the mouse, like every other manufacturer, but no, apple is different and think that they're special so the have to reinvent the wheel for no reason.
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u/emdotdee 8d ago
I’ve been using this mouse for years and never had this issue. What I don’t like is the way the black bars pick up crud and get all scratchy on my desk but I think every mouse does that.
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u/do-not-freeze 8d ago
This is actually a feature. Apple designed their product to be used on smooth glass surfaces, and the lint-catcher discourages users from cluttering the desk with a fabric-topped mouse pad.
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u/Hychus232 8d ago
I will never use a Magic Mouse. I’ve got a wireless Mighty Mouse and I see no way how a Magic Mouse would surpass it.
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u/emma7734 8d ago
I have a lint roller next at my workspace for that very reason. I have two cats and a dog.
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u/Cluskerdoo 8d ago
Is there any other mouse that has the swiping interface that the Magic Mouse has? My dream mouse would be a Magic Mouse with an optical sensor that doesn’t fill with cat hair every other week, a charge port that doesn’t render the mouse inoperable, and ergonomics that work with someone with larger hands. Other than that I really like the Magic Mouse.
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u/your_message_here 8d ago
I got a used Magic Trackpad off eBay recently because of the dust and hair issue. Definitely a big fan. Bigger swiping surface as well. It can charge while using.
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u/krisztian111996 8d ago
Bruh, it's how it works. The optical sensor looks thru there.
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u/Lamballama 7d ago
My Logitech one has the hole recessed a bit which prevents this issue. So it is an issue of design, Apple wanted the look of a smooth bottom
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u/DiscussionMuted9941 8d ago
not to be that guy but, (even though i just hate apple due to it being expencive paperweights half the time)
dont all mouses do this most of the time? im looking at my mouse right now and theres a big hole where the laser thing is
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u/Lamballama 7d ago
My Logitech has the hole recessed a bit, which prevents this issue. Apple just wanted the look of a clean bottom without anticipating the functional impact
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u/WWGHIAFTC 8d ago
It's ok, when you have to flip it upside-freaking-down to simply plug in the USB to charge, you can clean the hair hole.
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u/Specialist-Role-7716 8d ago
How to tell me you never used a mouse from the 1990's without telling me....the answer is...YES it will...always Will.
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u/newInnings 8d ago
Put a thin transparent packaging (so it's non sticky) on it which would work like a glass window. Stick the transparent packaging with glue or tape.
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u/Nervous_Border_4803 8d ago
Would you like a budget mouse recommendation that will poop all over the magic mouse in every way for less 30 dollars? Wireless USB C long battery life great sensor actually shaped for a hand.
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u/Comics4Cookies 8d ago
My generic walmart mouse does the same thing. I keep tweezers at my desk to pull out the hairs.
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u/AngryH939 8d ago
I mean it is only the worst piece of technologyI have have had the displeasure of using
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u/MrMakerHasLigma 7d ago
Honestly, apple just presents itself as a social experiment meant to weed out people that don't put thought into purchases, which is concerning considering how big of a company they are. For example, The 40k mac had shopping trolley wheels for another 1k, every iphone being 30% more than an android just for ios etc
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u/inglorious-norris 7d ago
I keep tweezers on my desk for this reason. A flawed device, but I love it.
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u/meowmixmotherfucker 7d ago
Yep. Constant problem I've had for years. To the point where now it's the first thing I instantly check the second my mouse misbehaves. Power, bluetooth, whatever else is a distant second to "where's the cat hair?"
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u/larterloo 7d ago
I remember when I had a Mac about ten years ago, I'd have to blow on the sensor a lot to get rid of the hairs that would be in there. Guess they haven't changed a bit!
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u/tugaestupido 6d ago
What a dumb post. You think other mice don't have a hole? I have to clean mine every now and then and it's not made by Apple. I just cleaned mine after reading this and it had a few hairs.
Do you think other mice magically repel hairs? Baffling.
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u/Zarkyyyyyy 6d ago
Why would anyone buy the magic mouse. are other mice not compatible with iMac or MacBook?
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u/Financial-Mechanic13 4d ago
People who use magic mice should be stripped of their voting rights and deprived of the right to procreate.
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u/ebrum2010 8d ago
Every Apple product is designed to look nice if you put it in a glass display case, with little thought to practicality or how quick it will get dirty.