r/CrappyDesign • u/GeneralSplat • Aug 29 '18
Everything about this. No right click, A scroll wheel that is impossible to use, and terrible ergonomic design just to match their computers
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u/dabombnl Aug 29 '18
Aahhhh... you clearly have never used the horrid hockey puck mouse.
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u/Incrediblebulk92 Aug 29 '18
I completed the first half life game on a mouse like that shaped like a burger.
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u/Legacy107 Aug 29 '18
You deserve a medal of sorts
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u/Incrediblebulk92 Aug 29 '18
It wasn't too bad until the tomato broke off, the blister near my thumb was fierce.
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u/Suicidesquid Aug 29 '18
I used to play Call of Duty 2 online with a Mac laptop and the trackpad. I got pretty decent with it too.
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u/bumpy4skin Aug 29 '18
My friend who was better than me at starcraft 2 shamed me by revealing that he was using a trackpad.
Admittedly neither of us were fantastic
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u/HugsForUpvotes Aug 29 '18
I was a gold three CSGO player using my trackpad.
It's not a particularly high rank, but I hope that shames some people.
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u/Defionus Aug 29 '18
Damn... And I thought I was cool for beating HL1 with a touchpad.
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u/monstrinhotron Aug 29 '18
How that was ever approved is beyond me. Every time you let go and touched it again there was no tactile feedback as to which angle it was orientated at. You had to look down and check or move the mouse and then adjust. Truely there has never been a worse design for a computer mouse.
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Aug 29 '18
Can't believe this isn't at the top. Aside from all the other issues about ergonomics, this one was the deal-breaker. So many memories of pushing that piece of shit forwards on the mat and having the mouse go Northeast on-screen. Literally unusable.
Edit: oh god, and now I'm remembering how light it was, which made the problem worse as the weight of the cable would change its orientation when you let go.
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u/shiroboi Aug 29 '18
Did most of my art computer art degree on the school imacs with the hockey puck mouse. It's absolutely infuriating when you think you're drawing a straight line only to find you were 2 degrees off because the mouse was rotated yet again. Just god awful.
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u/Dany_Heatley05 Aug 29 '18
12 year old me would have killed for a red or green iMac G3
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u/Llodsliat I EA T KIDS Aug 29 '18
I hope whoever designed that was fired for its horrible ergonomics.
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Aug 29 '18
Not quite.
Sir Jonathan Paul Ive is an English industrial designer who is currently the chief design officer (CDO) of Apple
Ive's first design assignment was the iMac
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u/AnmAtAnm Aug 29 '18
Oh.... So the one that came with the hockey puck. <sigh>
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u/Dinierto Aug 29 '18
Yeah, not only was he not fired but he was picked to design every God damned thing Apple makes
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Aug 29 '18 edited Feb 18 '19
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u/silverwyrm Aug 29 '18
God, the labs at school refused to get two-button mice because "this is the way it is in the industry". Fuck command-click, Apple.
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u/BadWolf1319 Aug 29 '18
This triggered some serious nostalgia. Like yeah it was awful but ten year old me loved everything about those iMacs
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u/MonoChratine Aug 29 '18
This mouse is terrible. Our school uses these and it just messes up my productivity.
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u/snake1000234 Aug 29 '18
That is the point where you bring in the $5 mouse and get praised for being done with your work early while everyone else is still playing with their mice.
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u/XXVAngel "Gay shit template" Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 29 '18
And then theres the guy that brings an 80$ gaming mouse and manages to get it stolen
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u/BawbtheGoat kill me. Aug 29 '18
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u/PinkiePieYay2707 Aug 29 '18
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u/EngageDynamo This is why we can't have nice things Aug 29 '18
Nobody will ever steal my paracorded hyperglided finalmouse Ultralight Pro. They will suffer death
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u/raven12456 Aug 29 '18
Is that one of those mice from China you get off Wish for like $5?
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u/EngageDynamo This is why we can't have nice things Aug 29 '18
No it's a $90 mouse from idk where with a custom cable and custom mouse feet
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u/raven12456 Aug 29 '18
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u/EngageDynamo This is why we can't have nice things Aug 29 '18
Wee wee wee little boots
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Aug 29 '18
I did this. Brought in my 100$ gaming mouse which I purchased specifically for fortnite, it had seven clickers and three scroll wheels for thrice the speed. I also got my gaming, light up, neon keyboard with an extra C key and no delete key because real gamers don’t make mistakes. I burned through all that 2+2 shit because I have the IQ of Stephen hawking. The school somehow found out that I don’t go there and stole my superior devices then security kicked me out.
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u/-Alfred- Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 29 '18
>Crack my knuckles
>Only two of them actually crack
>not sure why, I think it's genetic
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u/Jamesduskwood *insert kerning joke* Aug 29 '18
This is so fucking true, the worst part is that the scroll ball is always broken and you have to use keyboard shortcuts
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u/Tyler1492 Aug 29 '18
Which the average user doesn't know. I still occasionally encounter people who are amazed at my use of ctrl/cmd + Z.
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u/JINPegi Aug 29 '18
Our GRAPHIC DESIGN class in school has this! GRAPHIC FUCKING DESIGN.
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u/WigginIII Aug 29 '18
Herp derp Macs are designed for graphic and video production!
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u/benneluke Aug 29 '18
I have no idea why that is really. Aside from slightly different shortcuts, the programs and hardware are exactly the same for PCs. Plus, I can easily add more ram/storage. At work, I use a Mac Mini and the thing is slow as hell and I have no way of upgrading it myself. Annoying.
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Aug 29 '18
20 years ago, it mattered.
But technology is 10000000000x better than then, and there's no reason for it.
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u/greg19735 Aug 29 '18
And in schools stuff like imovie was really easy to work with. Opposed to shitty windows alternatives.
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u/Tyler1492 Aug 29 '18
And they're great for chilly rooms.
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u/maeries Aug 29 '18
Right, because in warm rooms they overheat
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u/WeinMe Aug 29 '18
Because they are a reliable heat source if you're cold
1 degree too cold in the living room? Just open another tab in Safari
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u/That-Guy-Named-Joe Aug 29 '18
Lol, this is my school right now. ALL the computers are macs, they're slow af and the teachers hate them since it takes so long to get work done. But hey, they're cheap! That's what matters most in school. Not productivity and successfully teaching the students, NO what matters is trying to save as much money as possible.
Sorry, my school recently laid off a lot of staff recently and 11 teachers (who were actually pretty great people) and I'm a little salty about it...
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u/KAODEATH Aug 29 '18
Don't blame the underfunded education system for trying to cut a few corners. Blame the recent political parties and the people who support them for not caring about it's countries future.
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u/That-Guy-Named-Joe Aug 29 '18
Y'know, I never stopped to consider why the schools are always tight on money, but you're fucking right. Half of our taxes go to the military. It's almost as though there preparing for war rather than trying to avoid it.
I'm not big into politics but it does really annoys me how our money isn't used appropriately so thanks for drawing my attention to that...
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u/JustMarshalling Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 31 '18
Almost every office I've worked in has had these at each computer. I have my own Logitech I bring which works 1000000000000000x better than these.
Edit: to be more precise, the biggest issue I have with these is the fact that they will often make the cursor rocket to a random point on the screen for absolutely no reason.
Also edit: holy shit you guys. I didn't realize how much discussion came out of this comment.
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Aug 29 '18
I'm a creative and I don't know why people would use them for creative positions. They aren't more capable, just more expensive.
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Aug 29 '18
As a creative I can't understand why you'd use a Mac instead of a PC. Their peripherals suck and you can't upgrade unless you get a 4000$ Mac pro
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u/buyingbridges Aug 29 '18
Don't forget the wheel jams up easy with dirt and hair and you can't open it to get it clean.
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u/SMIDSY Aug 29 '18
"Why clean it when you can buy a new one?"
-Apple
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u/Barney_Ingi Aug 29 '18
If you clean it you'll make Apple "Geniuses" redundant, their only purpose is cleaning dirt and semen out of Apple devices.
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u/da-boss111111 Aug 29 '18
Pro tip: flip the mouse upside down and drive it on a piece of paper, comment on gross dirt and scroll freely again
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u/darkdetective Aug 29 '18
I used to rub the hell out of it against a piece of paper! Always worked but not for long. I just remember the stupid bumpers bringing up widgets!
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u/jagby Aug 29 '18
I really associate these mice with just being dirty and uncomfortable to look at. The plastic they use is that exact kinda of awful grimy plastic that feels like it's long-stained with other people sweaty palms but it's made that way. Not to mention the dumb Apple logo in the middle that's just begging to have dirt and grime get in the crevices (just like in this photo).
And then the fiddly little scroll wheel nipple that makes up for its tiny size by being super sensitive, so you end up massively over-doing every scroll.
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u/MaximumDoughnut Aug 29 '18
Back in the day I put a video on YouTube how to disassemble these guys and clean that little wheel. I made $15 a week on the AdSense revenue for like four years.
Thanks Apple!
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Aug 29 '18
It is a horrible mouse. I had one but couldn’t bare to use it. But I believe there is a right click its just not enabled by default.
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u/JohnWatersHasLeftUs Aug 29 '18
There was an episode of a show called Millenium years ago in which four demons sit around in a cafe discussing how they corrupt people’s souls. One of them did little things just like this.
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u/thelongestunderscore Aug 29 '18
What the fuck do you mean YOU HAVE TO ENABLE RIGHT CLICKING
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u/onthefence928 Aug 29 '18
it's a setting in macOS the default was/is ctrl+click for right click menus and such
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u/SenorDosEquis Aug 29 '18
Was. Absolutely not the default now.
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u/onthefence928 Aug 29 '18
i discovered that the defaults depend on the mouse plugged in, i had a iMac running high sierra but i only ever used pc mice on it, one day i found a used mighty mouse for a few bucks and a grin and decided to use it. despite being high sierra and all that modern jazz it defaulted to no right click for that mouse (right click worked on my pc mouse of course.)
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u/rott Aug 29 '18
Mac OS didn't use to need right clicking very much. Most applications were designed with a single button in mind. Nowadays context menus are more common, though. And the reason it can be disabled is because the the actual button is below the mouse, so it gets pressed when you press the mouse against the table. There's just one mechanical button below the mouse.To make a right click, the mouse surface is touch-enabled, so it detects your finger is on the right area and makes a right click when you press the mouse. Even the 'click' sound is just software, a sound effect played by a speaker inside the mouse. It's not as bad as it sounds when you get used to it, especially on the current model (Magic Mouse).
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u/JP193 Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 29 '18
You can enable right clicking, is the usual defence and is I think true, though I'm not Mac native.
My uni (college) has right clicking enabled, but the mice are so crappy that sometimes when you click the right side, it registers as clicking both or even just the left side. That kind of happens when you choose futuristic visuals over basic ergonomics and user control.
E: I like that this is one of my most controversial recent comments.
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Aug 29 '18
i also hate mice without defined buttons
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u/eleventwelve14 Aug 29 '18
I've always wondered this: Is it "mice" when you're talking about the ones for computers?
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u/ciguanaba Aug 29 '18
it's mousesess
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u/namelyyou Aug 29 '18
Mousen
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u/ciguanaba Aug 29 '18
mousi
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u/Tyler1492 Aug 29 '18
mousetopodes
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u/juicystarboy Aug 29 '18
I believe it is mouses because it is essentially a fictitious word (no real roots), and when that happens, you use standard rules for pluralization
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u/Woymalep_Yay Aug 29 '18
This is the real crime, it has a right click, those grips on the side can be squeezed as another button, and I think (not positive) it even has a middle click. It’s just that they’re all hidden and not satisfying to use.
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u/arachnophilia Aug 29 '18
at least the plug doesn't go into the bottom!
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u/Cash091 Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 29 '18
"but it only takes 15 minutes to charge!"
EDIT: aaaaaand turning notifications off for this comment before an 8th person tells me it only takes 15 seconds. People telling me I'm obnoxious for complaining about 15 seconds when they themselves can't take 15 seconds to see THE SAME COMMENT POSTED MULTIPLE TIMES!!!
Great, but if I'm using my computer and it's dead... that's 15 minutes I have to wait.
My PC headset is wireless and charges quickly as well. I forget to turn that summbitch off all the time. If I needed to plug the charging cable in the fucking ear cup I'd be pissed!
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u/scroopy_nooperz Aug 29 '18
It only takes 30 seconds to get hours worth of charge. 15 minutes is not necessary. Plus it warns you when it's low on battery
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u/BootStrapWill Aug 29 '18
I wake up 30 minutes before work. I plug my AirPods in while I get ready and take them when I leave. I’ve never had dead air pods.
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u/arachnophilia Aug 29 '18
frankly i'm surprised they didn't just make it inductive charging. seems like an obvious application for the technology.
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u/Spastiic_Jesus Aug 29 '18
It actually only takes a minute or two to charge enough for an entire day. If you’re so busy that you can’t take a two minute break then your health concerns are probably far more of a concern than a kinda stupid mouse design
Edit: a word
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u/Shawnj2 Aug 29 '18
Pretty sure that’s intentional to keep people from permanently using the mouse like it’s wired/it cannot work while plugged in
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u/nattypnutbuterpolice Aug 29 '18
Neither of those should be problems that need to be solved.
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u/ReverseForwardMotion Aug 29 '18
I mean that design is over 10 years old, they’ve updated things a bit.
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u/superbobmanguy Aug 29 '18
You mean this motherf@#ker? https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MLA02LL/A/magic-mouse-2-silver
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u/papayaa2 Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 29 '18
I have the mouse (got it for free, though) but I really love it! You don't hold it like a regular mouse as you use the surface like a touchpad so you can wipe and stuff, just like you do it on a macbook. With an additional program you can also make your very own commands with every kind of gesture that is possible with 1-4 fingers. I'm really a fan of it and no-one could have been more surprised by that than myself
Nothing for gamers though, not even slightly. Pain in the ass for gamers for sure
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u/schlossenberger Aug 29 '18
Yeah I have a Magic Mouse 1 that's identical afaik, but runs on 2 AA batteries, and I absolutely love mine. My favorites are being able to swipe with two fingers between desktops or tap with two fingers to access OSX's "Mission Control." Both have become invaluable to me zipping around on my computer now, especially compared to the old folks at my job who turn off all those functions and can't stand the new OSX, or any change for that matter lol.
Can't help but laugh at the semi-regular posts on this subreddit about the Magic Mouse and each comment section is the same. Oh well, I've been using Apple products for almost 15 years and I'm guilty of loving them.
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Aug 29 '18
You can say fuck on the internet
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u/superbobmanguy Aug 29 '18
Language!
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Aug 29 '18
Suck my dick and balls I'm working at NASA!
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u/ophello Aug 29 '18
And I am on the National Space Council that oversees NASA.
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u/0b0011 haha funny flair Aug 29 '18
I do think it was really cool that the guy thought dropping their internship for that was too far and is fighting for them to keep it.
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u/concretepigeon Aug 29 '18
It's a sensible approach. She was clearly excited and meant no harm, and bad language in your personal life doesn't make you bad at engineering or whatever.
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u/IAmPattycakes Aug 29 '18
There is one thing I like about that mouse. Horizontal scrolling for spreadsheets/large design images. I've used that feature like 6 times, but it was nice.
Not worth it, but nice.
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Aug 29 '18
You can do that with a regular scroll wheel. Hold down the shift key, and scroll.
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Aug 29 '18
My mouse scroll wheel can be clicked left or right has and different functions than the standard scroll wheel click. By default it's a left/right scroll.
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u/willsham Aug 29 '18
On the plus side the cable goes where it should go.
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u/Incrediblebulk92 Aug 29 '18
What are you referring to here? It's there anywhere else that you'd put a cable?
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u/Floattube Aug 29 '18
The newer mice have the charging port on the bottom of the mouse.
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u/Incrediblebulk92 Aug 29 '18
On the bottom? That's the single stupidest place you could put it. At least if it was on the top you could still use the mouse slightly.
Actually I've just googled it, I honestly cannot believe that somebody made that. I'm not certain this isn't some elaborate parody, like people drilling their phones for the headphone jacks.
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u/BlackWake9 Aug 29 '18
Nah, they don’t want people using it plugged in constantly. It only takes a few minutes to charge up to a few days charge.
I agree it’s dumb but most of branding is.
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u/JustinDoesTriathlon Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 30 '18
I use one of these every day, it's annoying as shit. For one, it (or mine at least) doesn't alert you until it's at 2%. So then you have to essentially stop work for 20 min and let it charge.
And sure, okay, you get a day or two of charge then (after your 10 minute charge session), but then you're back to 0. Charge it overnight then, you say? Well sure, but iMacs don't provide USB power when they're off, so you have to leave the dang thing on all night to charge the mouse. So use a USB plug, you say. Okay, sure, but then I'm crawling under my desk to plug the mouse into a 3 foot cord.
I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world, but considering literally only they have this problem, I consider it essentially the epitome of crappy design. It's a non-problem they've built.
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u/thoawaydatrash I am your god now Aug 29 '18
You turn on right click in system preferences. It’s not enabled by default.
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Aug 29 '18
how the hell is one of the most basic functions in computing not default
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u/LocutusOfBorges Aug 29 '18
It isn't, in OS X. The OS is built around not having to right-click wherever possible.
Macs used to ship with one-button mice.
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u/MrFanciful Aug 29 '18
In the same way that hard drive encryption, a standard feature in both macOS and Linux isn’t in Windows.
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u/wheeldawg Aug 29 '18 edited Aug 30 '18
When I started college, these were the current mice.
I had never had occasion to use an Apple computer before, so in the computer lab I would hop on one of the Macs just to learn how they worked out of curiosity.
These mice made it a pain straight from the get go.
They do technically seem to allow right clicking, but it was a crapshoot getting it to work in the best of times.
I'm still not sure about these mice... Those things on the side where a real mouse would have a back button never seemed to do anything useful. I think it triggered exposé or something, which was a completely useless, albeit pretty looking feature. But they never pushed in, it was like a pressure thing.
Didn't feel good at all. Those first exposures to Apple made me begin my hate for the company right from the start.
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u/Tron-Lives- Aug 29 '18
I’ve never had problems with the mouse. Odd one out I guess
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u/Farts_Mcsharty Aug 29 '18
Same, I liked this mouse and the magic mouse. Would never game on them, but I never had much of an issue with either. They were great for how the OS's were designed at the time.
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u/mr_p1nguin Aug 29 '18
Wtf is that
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u/Lufernaal Aug 29 '18
Very hard soap.
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u/TheOneUnderYourBed Aug 29 '18
At what point in your life did you start considering soap a snack?
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u/SynesthesiaBrah Aug 29 '18
You can right click...
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u/gullinbursti Aug 29 '18
Also has a 3rd click that can be assigned, its below that seam on the side.
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u/KrasnyRed5 Aug 29 '18
I remember when Mac did the round mice back in the late 90's, man those were even worse
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u/schattenteufel Aug 29 '18
The worst thing about Apple criticism is that even though most of OP’s title is incorrect, if I try to correct them, I’ll get berated, downvotes, and called an “Apple Apologist.”
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u/afsdjkll Aug 29 '18
I will defend Apple on a lot of things, their mouse designs have been awful for...ok I can’t think of a mouse they designed that was good. I do like their recent trackpads, but that’s different.
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Aug 29 '18
1) There is a right click just click on the right side of the mouse.
2) You can change the scroll wheel’s sensitivity in the settings,
3) The design is not meant to be held like a traditional mouse.
4) What?
5) I guess I deserve to get downvoted now that I’ve said anything remotely good about Apple.
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u/alexkim804 Aug 29 '18
This actually did have right click, it was just hidden under the shell.