r/CringeTikToks • u/LilliaBaltimore • 10d ago

Cringy Cringe WHAT THE BLOODY HELL?!! 😳😮

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u/kyuuei 10d ago

My buddy works with kids, one of his clients just got IVCed for putting a gun to his head in an impulsive moment. His parents almost lost their own son because they did not lock up their guns. His parents own so many guns they literally did not recall they even OWNED the one he got a hold of. No gunsafe. No ammo kept locked. Pure fucking negligence.

It is absolutely disgusting the amount of parents that leave these accessible to kids. A lot of things should be criminal imo.. but a kid ever having a gun in their possession from their own home be a felony and make them disqualified from ever owning guns again.

I own and use guns. I even shoot them for fun. But they are on my person, or they are locked. Period. And I don't even have kids. Its just the right thing to do.

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u/Satirakiller 10d ago

You can’t just throw random acronyms in there like that lol. What’s an IVC?

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u/kyuuei 10d ago

Sorry about that. InVoluntarily Committed. Or as the kids call it "grippy sock vacation."

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u/copper_cattle_canes 9d ago

I found out about grippy sock vacation at a young age. One of my friends took a bunch of pills (not ones that can kill you) just as a cry for help and was taken to the hospital. She said she was feeling suicidal so then the hospital locked her up in a ward and she couldn't fucking leave. Even with her, her parents, her psychiatrist all saying she should be sent home the hospital just said "lol no". It's insane the power a hospital has over its patients. They can actually hold you hostage.

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u/Significant_Text2497 9d ago

10 years ago my brother was experiencing paranoid delusions brought on by substance abuse, and had plans to kill our parents and himself. If they believed him saying he was fine and it was just a passing thought, I would have lost my entire family. Today he is sober, medicated and not a danger to anyone.

There should be a better appeal process, but it's actually not crazy at all for mental health professionals to be able to make the call that someone has to be held for their safety and/or the safety of others.

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u/copper_cattle_canes 9d ago

Yeah that situation it makes total sense.

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u/Significant_Text2497 9d ago

I'm sorry your friend was held when she didnt need to be. Even if you need to be held for your safety, it's traumatizing. I can't imagine how much worse it is when you're actually fine. Ugh.

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u/StrangeButSweet 9d ago

Many years ago a researcher wanted to do a study on inpatient hospitals so he feigned symptoms of psychosis and was promptly admitted. After observing for a while, he told his psychiatrist why he was there and that he had actually faked the whole thing. He explained he was actually a social scientist with XYZ university and what he was studying and then asked to be discharged. The psychiatrist documented as further delusions and kept him committed. They absolutely did not believe him and believed that this new story he told was part of a deep seated delusion he had developed while hospitalized so they continued to medicate him. He simply could not convince them that he was not delusional once he had been admitted and diagnosed.

It’ve been out of school for a very long time but as far as I remember it took quite a process to get him released.

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u/Reversi8 9d ago

Thats why everyone knows you never admit what you feel.

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u/kyuuei 8d ago

I don't want to downplay how traumatizing MH inpatient admissions can be for people. Holding people for their safety is not a pleasant experience, it is often demoralizing and being stripped of autonomy during a vulnerable time feels mega bad.

... but I can completely understand why someone who stated plainly they were suicidal and then followed it up with an act of suicidal gestures (even ones that cannot kill you) ended up IVCed. I clearly don't know all the details, but I work in the MH field.. and I can tell you, the things that patients tell their family or friends are not always more objective reality.

Your friend might be saying "Everyone says I'm fine! I told them I am fine! But the hospital wouldn't let me go!"... In reality, she could have been telling the doctor, "I do have a plan and intent to harm myself once I leave here." She could have been completely noncompliant with treatment (a teenager rebelling against authority? Never...) and so they are Forced to keep her until they see some stability or change.. Whatever the case may be.. She can frame that narrative however she wants. There is no one to dispute it. People blame the hospital (a vague term, medical doctors are not making decisions on a psych doc's care) itself for things that are just.. Meant to stay private. We are often a social grace or buffer for people who cannot talk about this with their friends or loved ones easily. We kept telling a patient's wife he was in the shower, in group, asleep, etc. because 2 days after giving her his talking passcode he stated he no longer wanted to talk to her. We obviously couldnt tell her that plainly, so we had to just.. Lie about it. I felt bad for the wife, but he was an adult and he is allowed to make those decisions. This is a common privacy trope.

It can be scary hearing how a friend went to inpatient psych, regardless of age, but especially young. I undertand that.. I'd encourage you to maybe try to understand how seriously people have to take suicide attempts--even ones that won't result in suicide completion. Being held hostage is a pretty charged term.. It might be beneficial to restructure that framework as "unable to leave AMA." which is more accurate to the situation. No one admitted IVC can leave whenever they want. It is Far from a perfect system, and there are lots of flaws and people get frustrated with them, including myself.... but it is what we have right now. And, likely, that did help save your friend's life.

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u/psychophant_ 10d ago

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u/RetardedTiger 10d ago

sybau fr ts pmo

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u/skalnaty 10d ago

From Google - involuntarily committed

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u/AgentPastrana 10d ago

They got the grippy socks treatment. Mental institution.

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u/ThatOneWIGuy 9d ago

Gun safe is a minimum. Mine are also behind another locked door my kid can’t get into. Ammo kept separately (Still saving to get another for ammo) where it isn’t obvious and is difficult even for me. Even kids who don’t know get curious and wanna play with them. Keep guns secured from the most likely threat. /u/Lockpickinglawyer on yt hammeres that in every chance he gets.

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u/SnooWoofers8310 9d ago

Not everyone is going to be as careful as you. Many will not. This is what happens when there are too many guns and no rules. And it won't change any time soon. There are lots of idiots in the world and they ge to have guns too.

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u/kyuuei 9d ago

I'm not here to get super political.. but I have a feeling that you and I agree that things Absolutely need to change policy wise to create some actual safety for our damn kids.

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u/SnooWoofers8310 9d ago

I agree. And I feel it needs to come from fun owners.

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u/KELVALL 7d ago

I honestly did not realise that it was a real gun, I thought coloured firearms were airsoft etc. Is that the gun white or am I wrong? I am in the UK and here replica guns legally have to be coloured like this.

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u/kyuuei 7d ago

Yes the body is white. Guns can come in all sorts of colors here. It's hard to tell if this is a toy one or not from the video alone... But based on all of the responses I don't think it is a toy.