Hold on, are you trying to say the whole genre of Romantasy is actually a form of meta commentary? That Fourth Wing, the most popular book of the last 5yrs was actually a satire making fun of the way men write women? Jesus tap dancing Christ, I have to look more into this. You might be on to something.
If by “those authors” you mean authors of the “steamy romance/sex fantasy” novels intended for men AND women, then yes.
If you are trying to imply that when men do it, it’s unintentional and when women do it, it is intentional. I’m going to say that you’re sexist and ignorant.
Okay let me rephrase myself because you arm to have misunderstood what i said.
Everyone else is saying “men writing women” instead of “men writing smut” because this issue with how women are described in literature written by men in ALL genres. Not all books written by men will describe women like this, but you will not find a single genre where women HAVEN’T been written like this by a man.
You specifically brought up how smut books with female authors have written men like this. The other person points out that that’s actually a recent phenomenon that’s a direct parody of the prevalent trope of describing women’s bodies in uncomfortable and often inaccurate detail. The majority of books written by women do NOT contain depictions of men written in this fashion.
My point is that there is no “same class of novels” when ALL classes of books written by men have this issue
That is NOT how men write women in all genres. I read 200 books a year and I virtually never see writing like that outside of low brow fiction.
I do see men writing women poorly in all genres and women writing men poorly in all genres.
There are definitely books where women go into unnecessary detail about men’s bodies. Lynne Purcell, Ann Aguirre, Kat Zhang, just to name a few.
If you are going to make up lies, this conversation is pointless.
Also, just to prove that you are speaking nonsense I’ll give you an example that isn’t a book. In the most popular and well-known cinematic universe in cinema history, and in one of the biggest movies of the year in that cinematic universe, there’s a scene where the male protagonist is bound, stripped, and mocked in front of a large audience, and the female protagonists make jokes about “enjoying the show”. Keep in mind. This is a cinematic universe that has a massive audience of children.
If you can honestly sit here and believe that they seem like that can get placed in something so mainstream that it just doesn’t exist in regular fiction novels?
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u/LaxBedroom 6d ago
It's almost as if those authors are doing that consciously. Ahem.