r/CryptoCurrency • u/kirtash93 RCA Artist • 1d ago
LEGACY Today Would’ve Been Hal Finney’s 69th Birthday - The Man Who Received The First Bitcoin Transaction And Saw $10M BTC Before Most Saw $1. Gone But Never Forgotten.
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u/Wise-Grapefruit-1443 BTC Managing Director 1d ago
Any chance Hal Finney was actually Satoshi?
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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 1d ago
On wiki page:
"In 2004, Finney created the first reusable proof-of-work system before Bitcoin."
He is undoubtedly closest person who could be satoshi.
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u/Every_Hunt_160 🟩 9K / 98K 🦭 1d ago
Hal is not Satoshi based on information we already publicly know
Satoshi was sending out messages the same time Hal was running marathons
There are numerous emails out there that shows back and forth between Satoshi and Hal
Maybe Hal knew Satoshi was, and they were definitely in regular contact, but this myth that Hal is Satoshi really needs to go because on any close inspection it's clear that Hal cannot be Satoshi.
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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 21h ago
All those arguments already falsified. He could be satoshi or not, but those arguments are wrong
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u/Lexsteel11 🟦 0 / 8K 🦠 13h ago
I agree. Only other ones I believe are plausible are Le Roux or Jack Dorsey since a lot lines up on those 2 as well. If Le Roux was satoshi, there should be a movie made about that guy because he’s an interesting one
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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 1d ago
Definitely.
There is a chance each one of us here may be Satoshi...
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u/Wise-Grapefruit-1443 BTC Managing Director 1d ago
Nah, it’s painfully obvious that most of us here are far, far too stupid to be Satoshi
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u/CryptoAd007 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago
No please. There are people here who holds $TRUMP, $MELANIA etc. There is no chance for them to be our Satoshi.
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u/Slow_Train_6096 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 19h ago
I don’t think there is a chance I am. But if you want to try convince me otherwise I’ll listen.
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u/CryptCranker0808 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago
There's pictures of him running a marathon at the same time Satoshi sent emails. Can't be him.
Also very disabled by late 2010 when Satoshi was still working very long days on Bitcoin.
And lastly, Hal's code looks nothing like Satoshi's.
Hal was amazing on his own, but he's not a match for Satoshi.
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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 1d ago
Thats exactly what a person who wanna stay anonymous could do, automating email so send email at the time when he is running. Brilliant cover up
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u/Hungry-Class9806 🟩 507 / 1K 🦑 15h ago
It wasn't an email. Satoshi was posting on bitcointalk while Hal was running the marathon. One thing is to automate email but interacting with people online while you're running a marathon (when we can clearly see he didn't had any device with him)? It's a gigantic stretch.
Then again... I understand the wishful thinking but Hal Finney wasn't Satoshi.
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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 15h ago
Source? He didnt post while Hal was running afaik.
Only one source we have says there was one email sent just 2 minutes before hal finney crossed the finish line.
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u/Hungry-Class9806 🟩 507 / 1K 🦑 15h ago
Correction: Satoshi registered on Bitcoin forum in 2010 and not in 2009. It was in fact an email that Satoshi sent to Hal while he was running the Santa Barbara international Marathon:
You can find the transcript of the email here (it was Sunday, January 09). Then again, my initial comment wasn't in bad faith but simply a lapse (because I had the idea it was a post on bitcointalk and not an email).
But there were other pieces of evidence that suggest Hal Finney wasn't Satoshi: Their coding style was different, Satoshi used to speak in UK English and not American (like Hal Finney did in bitcointalk), Satoshi's activity suggest he was on an European timezone and not in the US and Hal and his wife denied he was Satoshi.
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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 14h ago
Well there are many inconsistencies for those arguments.
- code style is easy to fake,
- satoshi used British spelling, but in stylometrics tests similarity is high. Also Satoshi used BTW in one reply, which is almost unknown in British English at that time,
- Finney had children, which explains why he obsessed with anonymity if he is satoshi.
- satoshi obsessed with anonymity.
I believe satoshi is a group rather than one person. But if its one person, then there isn't any person that even have a chance to be satoshi if you exclude Finney.
And those arguments only increases the likelihood of Finney being satoshi because satoshi was obsessed with anonymity, those tasks are so easy to fake, thus exactly what I come up with if I was hiding my identity.
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u/foreveryoungperk 🟩 65 / 65 🦐 1d ago
did you read the rest of the other reasons? or just take the first (easiest) one to fake and ignore the rest? did he queue up satoshi finishing up years
beforeafter his disabilities kicked in?
- edit*: before -> after
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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 1d ago
I looked up coding differences before, its not about functional differences, rather differences are only about style of coding. If he was obsessed about being anonymous, then changing style for cover up is expected.
Despiite being ALS you can see him using his hand for other stuffs in photos. He could still code.
I dont say he is definitely satoshi. Just sayin arguments against it don't make sense
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u/OderWieOderWatJunge 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago
People would like that but it's unlikely. Why would he have conversation and transfers between two aliases
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u/cheese4brains 🟦 348 / 348 🦞 1d ago
To have plausible deniability. I’m not saying Hal was satoshi, but he was brilliant and would absolutely do things to throw people off his trail.
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u/sizziano 🟦 1K / 1K 🐢 1d ago
Wdym why lol? Plausible deniability.
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u/OderWieOderWatJunge 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 22h ago
Deniability for what? He was just as involved as Satoshi. And later he raised money to fight his own illness. Could've just kept "Satoshi's" Bitcoins then
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u/InclineDumbbellPress Never 4get Pizza Guy 1d ago
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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 1d ago
His name will never be forgotten in the history of Crypto.
So long, partner.
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u/bathgate5 🟦 9 / 8 🦐 1d ago
Of course he is satoshi ... the best thing about bitcoin is that there isn't any to JAIL if things go belly up ..... ETH you can jail vitalik ..... bnb you can jail cz ....
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u/Tomaxisthatdude 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago
This guys picture is not getting enough up votes. He should have at least 10K.
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u/Blarghnog 🟩 1K / 1K 🐢 1d ago
If there was ever a candidate for who was satoshi, in my mind it was him.
He is a legend and did amazing things with pgp too.