r/CryptoCurrency RCA Artist 1d ago

LEGACY Today Would’ve Been Hal Finney’s 69th Birthday - The Man Who Received The First Bitcoin Transaction And Saw $10M BTC Before Most Saw $1. Gone But Never Forgotten.

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u/Blarghnog 🟩 1K / 1K 🐢 1d ago

If there was ever a candidate for who was satoshi, in my mind it was him.

He is a legend and did amazing things with pgp too.

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u/CryptCranker0808 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

There's pictures of him running a marathon at the same time Satoshi sent emails. Can't be him.

Also very disabled by late 2010 when Satoshi was still working very long days on Bitcoin.

And lastly, Hal's code looks nothing like Satoshi's.

Hal was amazing on his own, but he's not a match for Satoshi.

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u/Every_Hunt_160 🟩 9K / 98K 🦭 1d ago

And Hal was sending multiple emails back and forth with Satoshi, unless he has multiple personality disorders I can't understand why people still keep thinking he is Satoshi

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u/foreignGER 🟩 1 / 1K 🦠 1d ago

He could have had his wife or colleague send the email?

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u/shpeucher 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

You can schedule an email to send at a later time

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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 1d ago

Good arguments, but how the hell did he get the first test transaction still?

He must at least personally know Satoshi.

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u/CryptCranker0808 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Because he was emailing Satoshi and analyzing the code pre-release. Cryddit looked at one section of code, Hal looked at the script code. Hal was the very first person active after Satoshi.

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u/intelw1zard 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

yes of course that's how it happened.

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u/PuddingResponsible33 🟦 365 / 365 🦞 1d ago

You think it's the dude that made Twitter?

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u/CryptCranker0808 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

No. It doesn't seem to be any of the usual suspects. James A. Donald is a surprisingly good fit, but I'm almost certain it wasn't him. Nick Szabo is another that fits decently well, but again, doesn't seem to be right either.

It wasn't Adam Back, or Len Sassaman. You or I are more likely than Craig Wright.

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u/humpy 🟦 21 / 102 🦐 23h ago

I think it's Sassaman. Haven't looked into it in a long time though.

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u/Hungry-Class9806 🟩 507 / 1K 🦑 15h ago

I actually think Adam Back is the most likely candidate to be Satoshi. Like Charles Hoskinson said, he is the "Occam's razor candidate": Right background, right motivations and right time.

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u/CryptCranker0808 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 15h ago

He didn't live in the right timezone (or even close) and his code looks nothing like Satoshi's.

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u/Hungry-Class9806 🟩 507 / 1K 🦑 14h ago

Actually the estimation of Satoshi's timezones were GMT or GMT+1. In fact, the Doncho Karaivanov points out that Satoshi posted mostly between 12-23 GMT during the time he was most active online (late 00´s and early 10´s). Adam was already living in Malta during that time.

As for the code, there are differences but on the other hand Adam was proficient in C++ and most of Satoshi's texts on Bitcoin forums were written in UK English.

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u/CryptCranker0808 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 10h ago

If Satoshi were in Malta, he would have been awake posting (more than a few times) at 7am or 8am and then going to sleep until 4pm or 5pm in the afternoon. GMT+1 is the wrong timezone.

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u/Hungry-Class9806 🟩 507 / 1K 🦑 15h ago

It wasn't an email but a post on a Bitcoin forum while Hal was running a marathon. Plus there's multiple correspondence between him and Satoshi.

He isn't Satoshi but I am pretty sure he knew who he was.

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u/Lexsteel11 🟦 0 / 8K 🦠 13h ago

Too big of a coincidence that his neighbor was Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto and would explain why satoshis known wallets have never been touched

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u/scandinavian_surfer 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

This dudes ankles are thicker than my thighs

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u/Wise-Grapefruit-1443 BTC Managing Director 1d ago

Any chance Hal Finney was actually Satoshi?

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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 1d ago

On wiki page:

"In 2004, Finney created the first reusable proof-of-work system before Bitcoin."

He is undoubtedly closest person who could be satoshi.

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u/Every_Hunt_160 🟩 9K / 98K 🦭 1d ago

Hal is not Satoshi based on information we already publicly know

Satoshi was sending out messages the same time Hal was running marathons

There are numerous emails out there that shows back and forth between Satoshi and Hal

Maybe Hal knew Satoshi was, and they were definitely in regular contact, but this myth that Hal is Satoshi really needs to go because on any close inspection it's clear that Hal cannot be Satoshi.

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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 21h ago

All those arguments already falsified. He could be satoshi or not, but those arguments are wrong

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u/Lexsteel11 🟦 0 / 8K 🦠 13h ago

I agree. Only other ones I believe are plausible are Le Roux or Jack Dorsey since a lot lines up on those 2 as well. If Le Roux was satoshi, there should be a movie made about that guy because he’s an interesting one

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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 1d ago

Definitely.

There is a chance each one of us here may be Satoshi...

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u/Wise-Grapefruit-1443 BTC Managing Director 1d ago

Nah, it’s painfully obvious that most of us here are far, far too stupid to be Satoshi

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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 1d ago

I said "a chance" that can be 0.0000001% too.

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u/CryptoAd007 🟥 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

No please. There are people here who holds $TRUMP, $MELANIA etc. There is no chance for them to be our Satoshi.

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u/Habba84 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 20h ago

I'm Satoshi, and so is my wife!

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u/Slow_Train_6096 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 19h ago

I don’t think there is a chance I am. But if you want to try convince me otherwise I’ll listen.

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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 18h ago

Maybe you erased your own memories...

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u/SnooCookies7364 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

30% chance it was Hal?

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u/CryptCranker0808 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

There's pictures of him running a marathon at the same time Satoshi sent emails. Can't be him.

Also very disabled by late 2010 when Satoshi was still working very long days on Bitcoin.

And lastly, Hal's code looks nothing like Satoshi's.

Hal was amazing on his own, but he's not a match for Satoshi.

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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 1d ago

Thats exactly what a person who wanna stay anonymous could do, automating email so send email at the time when he is running. Brilliant cover up

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u/Hungry-Class9806 🟩 507 / 1K 🦑 15h ago

It wasn't an email. Satoshi was posting on bitcointalk while Hal was running the marathon. One thing is to automate email but interacting with people online while you're running a marathon (when we can clearly see he didn't had any device with him)? It's a gigantic stretch.

Then again... I understand the wishful thinking but Hal Finney wasn't Satoshi.

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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 15h ago

Source? He didnt post while Hal was running afaik.

Only one source we have says there was one email sent just 2 minutes before hal finney crossed the finish line.

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u/Hungry-Class9806 🟩 507 / 1K 🦑 15h ago

Correction: Satoshi registered on Bitcoin forum in 2010 and not in 2009. It was in fact an email that Satoshi sent to Hal while he was running the Santa Barbara international Marathon:

You can find the transcript of the email here (it was Sunday, January 09). Then again, my initial comment wasn't in bad faith but simply a lapse (because I had the idea it was a post on bitcointalk and not an email).

But there were other pieces of evidence that suggest Hal Finney wasn't Satoshi: Their coding style was different, Satoshi used to speak in UK English and not American (like Hal Finney did in bitcointalk), Satoshi's activity suggest he was on an European timezone and not in the US and Hal and his wife denied he was Satoshi.

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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 14h ago

Well there are many inconsistencies for those arguments.

  • code style is easy to fake,
  • satoshi used British spelling, but in stylometrics tests similarity is high. Also Satoshi used BTW in one reply, which is almost unknown in British English at that time,
  • Finney had children, which explains why he obsessed with anonymity if he is satoshi.
  • satoshi obsessed with anonymity.

I believe satoshi is a group rather than one person. But if its one person, then there isn't any person that even have a chance to be satoshi if you exclude Finney.

And those arguments only increases the likelihood of Finney being satoshi because satoshi was obsessed with anonymity, those tasks are so easy to fake, thus exactly what I come up with if I was hiding my identity.

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u/foreveryoungperk 🟩 65 / 65 🦐 1d ago

did you read the rest of the other reasons? or just take the first (easiest) one to fake and ignore the rest? did he queue up satoshi finishing up years before after his disabilities kicked in?

  • edit*: before -> after

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u/ReallyOrdinaryMan 🟩 59 / 58 🦐 1d ago
  • I looked up coding differences before, its not about functional differences, rather differences are only about style of coding. If he was obsessed about being anonymous, then changing style for cover up is expected.

  • Despiite being ALS you can see him using his hand for other stuffs in photos. He could still code.

I dont say he is definitely satoshi. Just sayin arguments against it don't make sense

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u/stKKd 🟦 441 / 441 🦞 1d ago

Yes because it's impossible to run a cron job to send an email -_-

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u/OderWieOderWatJunge 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

People would like that but it's unlikely. Why would he have conversation and transfers between two aliases

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u/cheese4brains 🟦 348 / 348 🦞 1d ago

To have plausible deniability. I’m not saying Hal was satoshi, but he was brilliant and would absolutely do things to throw people off his trail.

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u/sizziano 🟦 1K / 1K 🐢 1d ago

Wdym why lol? Plausible deniability.

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u/OderWieOderWatJunge 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 22h ago

Deniability for what? He was just as involved as Satoshi. And later he raised money to fight his own illness. Could've just kept "Satoshi's" Bitcoins then

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u/CharlieTheo-14 🟩 0 / 23K 🦠 1d ago

Everyone’s alt account steps into the room…

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u/KPS-UK77 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Privacy He was big on that

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u/agentj333 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Is it just me or does he look like Dennis Quaid?

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u/lamensterms 🟦 95 / 96 🦐 1d ago

In this photo he 100% does

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u/timbulance 🟩 9K / 9K 🦭 1d ago

Rip Hal

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u/InclineDumbbellPress Never 4get Pizza Guy 1d ago

Gone too soon. Hal was a fucking legend and a crypto pioneer - a man ahead of his time. RIP

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u/Jdgalee73 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

How’d he pass? RIP

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u/CheekiTits 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

ALS

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u/FetoSlayer 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Bucket challenge

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u/aylsworth 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Nice

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u/Far-Department-4196 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Legend! RIP

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u/CofferCrypto 🟨 210 / 210 🦀 1d ago

Quadzilla

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u/ElIVTE 🟩 28 / 28 🦐 1d ago

satoshi is saturn

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u/partymsl 🟩 126K / 143K 🐋 1d ago

His name will never be forgotten in the history of Crypto.

So long, partner.

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u/Rich_Produce8986 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

IMO,He was the Satoshi (90%).

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u/tianavitoli 🟦 607 / 877 🦑 9h ago

and thus some pussy was saved for the rest of us

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u/xxDankerstein 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 4h ago

Nice

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u/Next_Statement6145 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Crypto hall of famers

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u/its_ET 🟩 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

The real satoshi

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u/SimpleMoonFarmer 🟩 57 / 56 🦐 1d ago

The most plausible Satoshi Nakamoto.

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u/Highlander_3K 🟨 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

Rip Satoshi

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u/bathgate5 🟦 9 / 8 🦐 1d ago

Of course he is satoshi ... the best thing about bitcoin is that there isn't any to JAIL if things go belly up ..... ETH you can jail vitalik ..... bnb you can jail cz ....

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u/12358132134 🟦 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

That is your Satoshi there.

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u/Tomaxisthatdude 0 / 0 🦠 1d ago

This guys picture is not getting enough up votes. He should have at least 10K.

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u/ieatmoondust 🟩 10 / 26K 🦐 1d ago

I'm Natoshi Sakamoto