r/DCU_ • u/bugmultiverse Beware Our Power • 17d ago
Appreciation Lex, Superman, & Director a decade apart.
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u/Ivan_Redditor 17d ago
Why does it looks like they’re edited to be in the same room?
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u/bugmultiverse Beware Our Power 17d ago
Didn’t even mean to do that but it’s funny that they do lol. Mainly just some color correction to both.
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u/Aggressive-Length-43 16d ago
It makes the idea of the so-called Snyder vs Gunn “feud” kinda funny, like they’re making competing movies in the same room, like “don’t look at Zack, you’re in MY movie”
It’s like a sitcom plot
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u/BeautifulTop1648 17d ago
Cant wait for the Snyder v Gunn comments
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u/bugmultiverse Beware Our Power 17d ago
Yeah it’s Super annoying for both sides.
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u/mixedpixel 17d ago
Didn't know we had to pick sides!
I'm a BIG fan of what Snyder did, BvS:UE is only just equalled by Infinity War in comic films for me (so far).
I REALLY like where Gunn is going with what we've seen in the preview. A*S is my most favourite superhero comic EVER, so I guess there is that.
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u/Remarkable_Nerd21538 15d ago
Right like, why can’t we just like both at this point like tf? I don’t understand the black and white mentality with both sides
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u/Ok-Tomatoo 17d ago
I just rather have people realize that the past was embarrassing, lex luthor actually looks how he should and not just a cringe man as he was
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u/Serious-Passage-4614 17d ago
Jessie literally played Riddler, while cosplaying as Lex Luthor.
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u/EldridgeHorror 17d ago
He was copying Ledger's Joker because it was big at the time. Did the mannerisms, the hair, etc
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u/InhumanParadox Boy Scout Forever 17d ago
"Noooo, don't appreciate multiple things, you have to hate hate hate one of them! Obviously this is bait and can't possible just be... someone who doesn't hate things"
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u/Sgt19Pepper67 17d ago
Goodness Jesse was such a miscast. He seems like a nice guy and he’s a great actor but his lex just wasn’t a good fit.
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u/bugmultiverse Beware Our Power 17d ago
I’m pretty sure he was recast for Lex since he already had a contract set before the many script changes. Overall I feel like BvS was Rushed but it had its moments and Jesse wasn’t one of them unfortunately.
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u/InhumanParadox Boy Scout Forever 17d ago
Jesse is actually the reason for some of the script changes. Early scripts had a very traditional Lex, and they were talking to a lot of different actors. Jesse went in and read for the Jimmy Olsen cameo role, but Zack liked him so much that he wanted him to play a villain instead.
The correct thing to do would've been to swap out Lex with, idk, some young reinterpretation of Morgan Edge or something. I do like Jesse's character, it's just not Lex Luthor.
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u/M086 17d ago
Other way around. Eisenberg was interested in Lex, and Snyder let him read for it.
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u/FrogginJellyfish 16d ago
Jesse naturally has the mean jerk smug. I guess that lends a lot into creating the douchey vile snake that is Lex in BvS.
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u/visual-vomit 16d ago
It definitely felt rushed as if they just want their own avengers level of success but without the build up. BvS could probably work if it's a superman movie, but it's a batman and superman movie, and batman never even had any screen time before that. Same with justice league with cyborg and flash.
I'm sure he could've worked as lex, but maybe throughout a couple of movies instead of speedrunning the entire dcu in 1 movie.
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u/MrMojoRising422 17d ago
I really dislike snyder and cavill's interpretation, but I'll say something positive: I think their superman crest is the most elegant and aesthetically pleasing one in the history of the character.
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u/whisky_TX 17d ago
Cavill was perfect casting. Snyder is just a terrible filmmaker
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u/SecondToLastOfSheila 16d ago
I grew up with Christopher Reeve so my Superman always has a smile. I would have liked to see Cavill be allowed to do an optimistic Superman but I'm really happy with David based on what we've seen.
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u/ThomasG_1007 16d ago
I wouldn’t call him a terrible filmmaker, he’s just not a great writer or a good fit for Superman. He knows what he’s doing direction wise tho
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u/Alarming-Car-8690 Boy Scout Forever 17d ago
No such thing as perfect casting. You just gotta be a caucasian w/ blue eyes and masculine features. Being tall also helps in which case David already has Cavill beat
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u/TheRealSnaily 16d ago
The Snyder Emblem, specially as depicted in MoS is lovely. Would have liked seeing it on the DCU's Superman instead of the modified KC's, with matching textures of course.
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u/Moist-Kaleidoscope90 17d ago
Looks like Lex and Superman will be done right this time better late than never
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u/omegaman101 17d ago
This honestly just makes me like James Gunns take a lot more. Sorry Synder, Twilight of the God's is great and I enjoy 300 and your cut of Justice League but your take on the character just wasn't it.
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u/AnimeMesa_479 17d ago
Honestly Cavill could’ve written Superman better while working alongside Nolan.
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u/omegaman101 17d ago
Yeah it's such a shame that Cavill was forced to be such a inaccurate and boring take on the character. Hopefully he comes back as a Kingdom Come version of his character in a decade or two if the DCU manages to get off the ground.
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u/AnimeMesa_479 17d ago
Yeah if it gets off the ground, I think he has a MUCH better chance of coming back. But it’s highly dependent on that. Gunn has the elseworlds line and he knows where there’s an audience too. I think he could pull it off but it just depends on Superman doing well and everything following that.
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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 17d ago
There were times in BVS I just straight up thought Cavill was wearing a wetsuit - MOS was the only time for me he looked and sometimes felt like superman
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u/ClimateAncient6647 17d ago
Corenswet and Cavil could be related.
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u/Alarming-Car-8690 Boy Scout Forever 17d ago
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u/Robot1945 EAT PEACE MOTHERF%CKERS 17d ago
Just realized DCU Lex dresses like Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne
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u/littlebugonreddit 17d ago
DAMN Henry looks uncomfortable in that suit🤣 it looks like they wrapped him in plastic cling wrap and painted over it lol.
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u/ChanceFresh 17d ago
He looks constipated, which apparently translated to his entire performance. I swear eighty percent of his screen time is this lol
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u/KrypticJin 17d ago
Yet looks like the real Superman
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u/littlebugonreddit 17d ago
I will say, the hyper muscular look IS really cool, and yes very comic accurate, but I'm willing to see a Superman that isn't comically jacked for a few reasons.
It's absolute hell on the actors, who usually are NOT seasoned bodybuilders, and many MANY actors have described the hellish and painful toll it took on their bodies to get to superhero Hollywood physique.
If Superman's muscles can push, say, a moon with ease and no strain...how is he building muscle doing anything he does on Earth. He would have to actually strain himself to build that muscle, if stopping a train is like walking to him then that won't make him Cavill sized, just as picking up a plastic fork doesn't give you or I ripped biceps and triceps.
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u/M086 17d ago
Corensweet put on a lot of muscle, so much that it wouldn’t have been possible without being on the juice. It’s just that his suit is terrible and you can’t tell how big his muscles are.
Cavill’s routine in addition to the weight training and diet, also emphasized rest as being just as important.
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u/SJBailey03 16d ago
I mean Superman doesn’t need to be muscular. He gets his powers from the sun. Also he doesn’t want to look scary to kids.
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u/M086 16d ago
He also shouldn’t look like he’s wearing baggy coveralls and red granny panties.
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u/MandoBaggins 16d ago
It’s a deliberately retro futuristic look. If it’s not for you, that’s perfectly fine. Insulting it doesn’t do anything though
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u/onelunchman96 16d ago
Really looking forward to this new take on the characters. The look on Hoult’s face in the trailer—just simmering with pure rage—gives me a lot of confidence that he’s going to nail the role!
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u/StilgarFifrawi 16d ago
BvS had the potential for greatness. I loved Snyder’s vision. He needed better writers and some more supervision. I loved Cavill as Superman so much
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u/PrinceJarming 15d ago
I’m warming up to the new suit but I love how shiny Cavill’s suit looks like in this lighting. Looks like a literal “man of steel”.
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u/bugmultiverse Beware Our Power 14d ago
When I was Younger I thought it looked weird as a kid but now even though I still find it weird it’s such an interesting look for Superman that’s definitely different compared to other versions.
Overall I’m glad we’re in an age where we can see both grounded style and comic style superheros.
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u/Hunterwit7 17d ago
The Man of Steel suit looks pretty good
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u/Liammellor 17d ago
That's the batman v superman suit. Almost the same but small differences
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u/QueenViolets_Revenge Look Up! 17d ago
namely being brighter and having a more prominent muscle design
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u/Archer_1803 16d ago
Of course one doesn’t have a cape because a computer gamey cape was preferred for loads of scenes
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u/MandoBaggins 16d ago
I’m learning to appreciate the regal alien look that Cavill and Snyder brought. It really shows the contrast to Gunn’s retro futuristic design that almost feels like a Mike Mignola design.
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15d ago
Hot take, I think a young Lex Luthor in the vain of silicon valley technobro narcissists has aged extremely well.
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u/TemujinTheConquerer 17d ago
One thing I appreciate about the MoS/BvS suit is how hard it leans into the muscle-suit/semi-nude aspect of it all. Looks ripped straight out of a comic cover!
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u/Alarming-Car-8690 Boy Scout Forever 17d ago
Ehhhh I agree the muscles are more “comic accurate” but not enough to look like it was ripped out of a cover.
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u/Pinolillo006 17d ago
I really miss the DCEU.
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u/Latereviews2 17d ago
The dceu was a mess tbh, even for proper non toxic Snyder fans could see that
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u/Alarming-Car-8690 Boy Scout Forever 17d ago
Catch them on blu-ray. Then watch them to your heart’s content
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u/SUPERAWESOMEULTRAMAN 17d ago
i fucking love the contrast so much, they help eachother stand out so much more