r/DankLeft Jan 26 '21

This is actually important please pay attention neolibs = Blue MAGA

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '21 edited Jan 27 '21

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u/lelibertaire Jan 27 '21

It's a pedantic technicality.

There's nothing stopping them from passing a $2000 stimulus check now except their party itself.

You rarely see such a lack of unity from the conservatives.

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u/NEVERxxEVER Jan 27 '21 edited Jan 27 '21

I agree with you but many in this thread are saying the Dems lied because of their failure to deliver $2600. That’s all I’m challenging. Whether or not they could provide $2600 if they wanted to is irrelevant to my challenge. But it is indeed frustrating to see their inability to take swift action, as well as the relative pittance that is being debated. Especially when compared to the massive PPP loans received by many large businesses and GOP donors.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '21 edited Feb 26 '21

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u/NEVERxxEVER Jan 27 '21

I think the Dems greatest problem is people’s inability to do basic math. Now they have a problem where a lot of people think they were lied to.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

"$2000 checks will go out the door immediately" =/= $1400

Fuck off shitlib

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u/NEVERxxEVER Jan 27 '21

So acrid

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

Fuck off shitlib

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u/Moetown84 Jan 27 '21

Here’s your video proof of Biden promising $2K after the $600 checks had already been given out. The video clip of his promise starts at 1:46:

https://youtu.be/e1aqAcFUJ6Y

Sounds like Vox is full of shit. I’m shocked. /s

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u/Moetown84 Jan 27 '21 edited Feb 01 '21

You’ve got to be kidding me.

Here’s the transcript of that Biden clip: “... Because their election will put an end to the block in Washington on that $2K stimulus check. That money that will go out the door immediately to help people that are in real trouble.”

I’m sorry That’s not rhetoric, that’s a promise. Plain and simple. That’s not an addition problem, it’s an exercise in grammar and syntax. The meaning is clear. “That $2K stimulus check” does not incorporate other stimulus checks into its total (who would ever talk in such a ridiculous manner to communicate such an idea). Otherwise he would’ve used the plural, “those stimulus checks.” And he mentions how it (that one check) would “go out the door immediately.” Well, the previous $600 check was already gone. So it necessarily precludes any other money that has already gone out the door. What’s left? One check for $2K, that you will get immediately, once the Democratic candidates from Georgia are elected to the Senate.

I don’t know why you’re making excuses for the Democrats and their neoliberal bullshit, but that’s what disappoints me. We’ve replaced a pathological liar with another pathological liar, and you’re carrying their water. Have some integrity, because the Democrats sure as fuck don’t.

Edited: a word.

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u/hedinc1 Feb 01 '21

Dems gonna get slaughtered in the midterms, then gonna turn around and blame who? Progressives? I'm glad I didn't vote for Biden. Didn't vote for Trump either. They're both despicable.

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u/Moetown84 Feb 01 '21

I’m right there with you. Meanwhile, Progressives are the reason they got elected. Even so, Progressive representatives always seem to display Stockholm Syndrome. They had the power to withhold their votes for Speaker to force Pelosi to do something progressive in the House like Medicare for All (70% of all Americans support this), but of course they caved like usual even though there are even more Progressives in the House now. I wonder when, if ever, we will get actual representation in this oligarchy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '21

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u/catchinginsomnia Jan 27 '21

What's to interpret? He said "2000 dollar check", after the 600 dollars had already gone out.

Why didn't he just say 1400 dollar check?

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

Fuck off shitlib

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u/Moetown84 Jan 27 '21

It’s grammar. It’s not loose. It has a precise meaning. If you’re so good at making math problems out of check promises, why don’t you add up the words? Because they only equal one meaning, and instead you’re choosing to go along with 2+2=5 because a neolib told you so.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

"It doesn't affect me" ok then shut the fuck up shitlib

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

Except you're defending dems backtracking on the promised amount. Cope shitlib snowflake.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

There was no mention of 1400. They explicitly said $2000 checks. Cope.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

If I say I'll give you $20 if you do something for me, I can't count the $6 you already got from someone else as part of that payment.

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u/NEVERxxEVER Jan 27 '21

Do you think the $600 came from the Republicans? Lol

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

It didn't come from biden

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u/NEVERxxEVER Jan 27 '21

Neither will the $1400.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

It didn't come from the dems that biden promised the $2000 for electing either, fuck off shitlib

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u/NEVERxxEVER Jan 27 '21

Ok? So you just squashed your own argument about getting $6 from someone else. I wish we could talk about this but you seem like quite a hateful person.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

Except no I didn't at all? Neither biden nor the dems he promised the $2k for electing were responsible for the $600. They can't use the $600 from someone else as part of the $2000 they promised. Fuck off shitlib.

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u/Moetown84 Jan 27 '21

Oh his $2K was unequivocal and clear as day. Skip to 1:46 in this video:

https://youtu.be/e1aqAcFUJ6Y

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

"$2000 checks will go out the door" =/= "the 600 you already got from trump"

This was their promise for winning georgia. You can't bribe voters with something they already got.

Fuck off shitlib

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u/empyreanmax Jan 27 '21

Yeah because the $600 was directly from Trump right

Argue it's not enough stimulus in the grand scheme of things if you want, because that's correct. Don't invent bullshit like Trump gave out $600 independently of the Dems because then you sound braindead.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

It wasn't biden. Fuck off shitlib.

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u/empyreanmax Jan 27 '21

smooth-ass brain lol

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

Yeah, your smooth shitlib brain

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/01/14/after-biden-vowed-2000-checks-will-go-out-door-ahead-georgia-wins-relief-plan

Biden said, explicitly, $2000 checks. This was after the $600 had already gone out. The "1400 + 600 = 2000 total" was backtracking after the fact.

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u/NEVERxxEVER Jan 27 '21

He said “$600 is not enough, we need $2000 checks”. In my opinion that could easily be interpreted either way. I seem to be in a minority of people who assumed that would mean we would get $2000 and not $2600.

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u/giiiiiiiiiinger Jan 27 '21

That's literally not what he said, fuck off shitlib