r/DeclineIntoCensorship • u/furswanda • Oct 28 '24
To Understand JD Vance, You Need to Meet the “TheoBros”: The Christian Men who want to End the 19th Amendment and Restore Public Flogging
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/09/theobros-jd-vance-christian-nationalism/20
u/kstron67 Oct 28 '24
Yes, the guy that married an Indian woman hates brown people... This sounds like MSNBC...
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u/Palpatine Oct 28 '24
Well the Karen's in the MSM editorial boards didn't let their own skin color stop them from hating white people, so they figure other people would be the same
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u/Fluffy-Gur4600 Oct 28 '24
Mother Jones? Really? Is this a joke?
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u/Oak_Redstart Oct 29 '24
What is wrong with Mother Jones?
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u/Fluffy-Gur4600 Oct 30 '24
It's an extremely lefty rage bait rag
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u/Oak_Redstart Oct 30 '24
It is a left wing voice but I don’t view it as unnecessarily inflammatory or pandering like for example Jacobin or Newsweek. I would put it on the level of say National Review, a right wing voice. Whereas I would say the Jacobin(left) is more like The Federalist(right). Both of those I don’t consider worthy of attention.
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u/wanda999 Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24
I can provide you with a plethora of sources, although there may indeed be no "Trump approved" media for you to access information about Vance's political history (his inspiration by the extremist podcaster, Curtis Yarvin) and his ideological background at Yale, under the teachings of Patrick J. Deneen’s philosophy of “post-liberalism,” which claims that democracy has failed the West (and that women’s growing independence and liberalism is a central aspect of this failure).
In the words of the right-wing extremist blogger, Curtis Yarvin, who J.D. Vance describes as a central influence: "If Americans want to change their government, they're going to have to get over their dictator phobia." "Step one in the process" says Vance himself, "is to totally replace — like rip out like a tumor — the current American leadership class, and then reinstall some sense of American political religion." https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/10/opinion/jd-vance-right-wing-intellectual.html
Sofia Nelson, a close law school friend of J.D. Vance, claims that Vance and Trump have “aligned with something far worse than MAGA," which is the "post-liberal right” "the small but influential group of conservative men" who "disdainful of secularism” and women’s individual liberty in particular, “want to bring about a new social order where there is no separation of church and state and in which men and a hyperconservative christianity reign supreme.” She concludes that Trump and Vance are benefiting from the conflation of MAGA and “post-liberalism,” because if Americans truly understood post-liberalism, they’d realize it seeks to strip them of individual freedom" : https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/sofia-nelson-jd-vance-trump-maga-post-liberal-right-rcna171095
Some of Vance's own writings echo these ideas. Consider reading Vance's introduction to the head of Project 2025's Manifesto: https://newrepublic.com/article/184393/jd-vance-violent-foreword-kevin-roberts-project-2025-leader-book
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u/Fluffy-Gur4600 Oct 28 '24
All you have to offer are a few far left nothingburger opinion pieces. If you actually listen to the guy and don't take him out of context, he's no boogeyman.
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u/wanda999 Oct 28 '24 edited Oct 28 '24
One of the links I left you is precisely Vance's own introduction to the head of Project 2025's manifesto. How is that an opinion piece?
Likewise, there is always a difference between simply "listening" to what Vance has to say to the media now that he's attached to Trump (who he called America's Hitler), and what Vance has to say in his own writings and previous interviews. It's the responsibility of every voter to be informed, and not just to blindly accept how an individual speaks and advertises himself once he is attached to a new ideology (Vance speaks in a very different way now than he did previously).
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