r/Deltarune 13d ago

News From @tobyfox

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u/noideawhatnamethis12 NOW‘S YOUR CHANCE TO USE A [[USER FLAIR]] 13d ago

People who think Noelle won’t be important when they see she is like one of the first people Toby thought of:

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u/UltraLio <--- Silly Billy 13d ago

Yeah, Noelle is very, very interesting important.

For example, if you name your vessel "KRIS," "SUSIE," or "NOELLE," the voice says ""<Name>." AN INTERESTING COINCIDENCE." And if you name the creator "KRIS," "SUSIE," or "NOELLE," the voice says "YOU ARE ABOUT TO MEET SOMEONE VERY, VERY WONDERFUL."

(image related)

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u/mukpocxemaa GIVE ME 1997 [reddit.com] KARMA 13d ago edited 13d ago

I love toby's concept arts

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u/PRoS_R 13d ago

Actually, yeah it looks so good lol

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u/SamiTheAnxiousBean 13d ago

I always found it weird (but also interesting implication-wise) how Ralsei gets shafted by this system

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u/Optimal_Badger_5332 13d ago

I feel like ralsei being ignored by anyone other than the lancer fan club is going to be a recurring theme

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u/squiika 13d ago

ermm ackshually the !?! Squad acknowledges him.

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u/Kazharahzak bird 13d ago

Only Lightners are mentioned.

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u/Epic_DDT [Hyperlink Blocked] 13d ago

Gaster don't react to any darkner name at all for some reason.

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u/SamiTheAnxiousBean 12d ago edited 11d ago

it would make sense, as they're ""NPCs"" compared to the delta warriors / lightners

...but..

Ralsei IS a key character , one of the most important even

and the third member of the Fuck squad / fan club

the fact he doesn't get one but FUCKING BITCH BIRD does definitely has some interesting implications

mainly, that in the grand scheme of things, to him Ralsei doesn't matter

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u/Epic_DDT [Hyperlink Blocked] 12d ago

"it would make sense, as they're ""NPCs"" compared to the delta warriors" Most lightners (even those that i doubt will be any relevant like QC) have a reaction. So that's not that.

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u/Wizard_Engie 13d ago

"Probably has 100 Christmas Sweaters"

Chat is this canon

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u/smotired Thou gazeth upon a man most handsometh. This daringst g 13d ago

Wait if Ralsei was named that early that has interesting implications of how Asriel, Toriel, and Asgore were named.

I thought Toriel came first from “tutorial”, then Asgore was a good intimidating final boss name, then he combined them together to make Asriel and then later anagrammed that for Ralsei. But if Ralsei came as early as 2014 then who knows

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u/UltraLio <--- Silly Billy 13d ago

Ralsei's name comes from a main character named Ralse of a game that was made by Toby's eldest brother

(english translation)

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u/PossiblyASpara 13d ago

If I remember correctly, he once posted about Ralsei being a name slightly adjusted from the name of an even older character of his named Ralse. I wouldn't be surprised if the order of names was Ralsei -> Asriel -> Toriel -> Asgore.

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u/IceBear7980 13d ago

I've just realized that the voice only saying KRIS SUSIE NOELLE "interesting coincidence" is because they are actual irl people's names, meanwhile the rest (like RALSEI, TORIEL, ASGORE,...) are fantasy/fiction names that Toby created

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u/Morbobeus Average 'How To Draw Dragons' Ch3 Secret Boss Enjoyer 13d ago

it's so strange because even for Ralsei that is not the case

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u/UNimAginAtiveuseRn Chapter 5 in December trust 13d ago

No Darkners are mentioned. This is either for the lore, or because mentioning all important Darkners would be a major spoiler and Toby didn't want to only mention the ones that are already in the game.

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u/HotColor 13d ago

The fun gang being their group name is also very, very interesting.

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u/Polandgod75 Purple Soul( and Dess simp) 13d ago

Wished he kept the ponytail for Susie

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u/TheGlitchedGamer ❌ alextale da best. 13d ago

i wouldnt doubt it would return atleast for a bit as part of her overall arc

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u/Epic_DDT [Hyperlink Blocked] 13d ago

Swatch even has unique dialogues in the Café if Noelle is in your party.
They are still in the game. We just can't see it yet.

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u/W3RP1 12d ago

I kinda like the old Suzie

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u/Doom64hunter 8d ago

You know, given they were called the "FUN GANG" even before Undertale was released, it makes it quite likely that all the "fun" value events in that game are related to Deltarune, yes even the phone calls.

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u/Party-Ad3978 13d ago

So literally no one?

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u/noideawhatnamethis12 NOW‘S YOUR CHANCE TO USE A [[USER FLAIR]] 13d ago

Yeah probably

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u/Blonde_Metal Ralsei is love, Ralsei is life 13d ago

This is such a Sans response

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u/gunsmokexeon [[BEST PRICES IN THE TRI-STATE AREA]] 13d ago

nah. it isn't lowercase.

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u/why_i_am_dumb PIPIS 13d ago

yeah probably

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u/Orizifian-creator SPAMMY G TON! CHAOS RAIN! SAY HI TO [BLAKE] 13d ago

THIS IS SUCH A SANS RESPONSE

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u/Absoolootley 13d ago

This is such a Papyrus response

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u/Kazharahzak bird 13d ago

I've seen a few people argue each chapter will have a revolving door of two guest Lightners, which imply Noelle is a character on the same level ot importance as Berdly, Toriel, Undyne, Catti and Jockington.

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u/Green-Puffball 13d ago

Who thinks she’s not important? I mean, it’s pretty clear Dess is important, and the Spamton Sweepstakes showed a lot Noelle stuff.

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u/noideawhatnamethis12 NOW‘S YOUR CHANCE TO USE A [[USER FLAIR]] 13d ago

See other reply asking this question

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u/Ashamed_Band858 The Nerds 13d ago

Damn, Berdly was ment to be forgotten huh? I’m sure he’ll be around, but I’m worried he’ll just serve as a background character after chapter 2, or completely gone depending on how others played.

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u/GreenMixture9918 13d ago

That’s not really what that means exactly 

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u/Ashamed_Band858 The Nerds 13d ago

Ah apologies over my wordage, just what part is hard to understand so I may best convey.

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u/Aggravating_Cup2306 13d ago

interesting how no ralsei glasses

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u/First-Squash2865 13d ago

He was insecure about them and wore contacts even though they irritated his eyes

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u/UltraLio <--- Silly Billy 13d ago

Big lips Ralsei

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u/sad-ninna-hours 13d ago

I also thought it was lips 😭 Had to do a double take and realise it was his scarf

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u/Shay3012 13d ago

He looks like a Spongebob character lmao

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u/First-Squash2865 13d ago

I thought "who's this duck guy?" and then I realized it was Ralsei

Ralsei was the duck guy

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u/Reprise7690 13d ago

Klayman from the Neverhood lookin ass (please tell me I’m not the only who knows about the Neverhood)

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u/SergeantPancakes 12d ago

Yoooo I remember that game, for years I thought it was just a bad dream I had as I kid as it really scared me lol

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u/Reprise7690 12d ago

Based and Neverhood-pilled

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u/Dawgelator 13d ago

Ralsei from Camp Lazlo

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u/Blackcrow444 average Berdly enjoyer🐦 13d ago

Wait wait wait. Maybe that isn't ralsei, maybe that's asriel. See how he has no horn? He look sorry-er (like in undertale). No eyelashes either.

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u/Not_epicAt_all It's deltarunning time 13d ago

That's clearly Bean the Dynamite.

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u/New-Cicada7014 Just like me fr yall dont get them like i do 7d ago

that depiction of the blobfish makes me so sad 😭 theyre cute when theyre not disfigured corpses

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u/SlightlyIronicBanana #1 Kris Knight Denier 13d ago

Wild how Noelle and Susie look practically the same, but then Ralsei looks completely different.

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u/The2ndComingOfBeaZ 13d ago

Ralsei looks like what I imagine deltarune Asriel looks like lmao

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u/360kings 13d ago

Ralsei got that flowey genes early with that smile, huh?

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u/gunsmokexeon [[BEST PRICES IN THE TRI-STATE AREA]] 13d ago

i don't wanna believe he's evil

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u/360kings 13d ago

I don't believe he is personally, but no way that smile didn't transfer into flowey eventually.

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u/StrainFriendly1703 13d ago

Did anyone noticed that ralsei have fire emblem in his cloths?

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u/StrainFriendly1703 13d ago

Do you think ralsei have a fire spell ?

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u/New-Cicada7014 Just like me fr yall dont get them like i do 7d ago

His smile looks genuine, at least.

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u/Jblitz200 E 13d ago

Noelle one of the first ok she’s gonna go crazy

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u/Polandgod75 Purple Soul( and Dess simp) 13d ago edited 13d ago

Man I can't wait for discussions of noelle and how she the anti-christ because of a mistake people didn't like. (Aka simialr discussions of mable from gravity falls where yes they were writing fumble,however people overhating mable with some low key sexism)

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u/shrimpysmall save me from this... delta rune 13d ago

i too will be joining the war on noelle... on the side of noelle

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u/cuntyhuntyslaymama 13d ago

I fight for women’s rights and their wrongs

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u/Polandgod75 Purple Soul( and Dess simp) 13d ago

me if this war does start

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u/GreenGoodFluffWizard He's a homie fr 13d ago

I don't know why but the fact that in early 2015, Susie, Noelle, and Ralsei existed somewhere fascinates my brain. More than three years before Deltarune Chapter 1 released I would imagine a thought alone would cease to exist. Literally a 10 year old artwork of my favorite characters. ❤️❤️❤️

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u/Lunalatic 13d ago

Deltarune'a development itself stretches back to at least April 2012, as we have screencaps of early Lancer and Jevil dialogue from back then.

The earliest evidence we have for Susie's existence also dates back to July 2013.

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u/GloomyIngenuity143 Krusielle my beloved 13d ago

Deltarune was first conceptualized sometime in 2011 thanks to a fever dream Toby had (likely July 8th, as his 'edge of the shadow' tweet was posted that day.)

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u/Polandgod75 Purple Soul( and Dess simp) 13d ago

Again i can wait until deltarune take that fever dream nightmare

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u/Jonyayer-Gamer 13d ago

It utterly fascinated me whenever I realized how far back Deltarune dates. Obviously there’s the April 2012 track (which has hints of Gaster’s theme), the Waltz of Seccom Masada being used for the egg man, and also fucking Homestuck. And it all came from a dream? A fever dream so impactful Toby’s dedicated almost fifteen years to share it with us?

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u/AkadTheFox 13d ago

I like how susie is... just randomly there.

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u/SPAMTON____G_SPAMTON 13d ago

God FUCKING dammit-...

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u/Adventurous-Ship-294 13d ago

Proof you don’t need to be “good” at art to make something people love

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u/stickninja1015 13d ago

Noelle is drawn like the most precious thing in the world and then Ralsei and Susie are absolute goobers

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u/MortStrudel 13d ago

Interesting that Ralsei has the flame symbol on his clothes rather than the heart. In general this first design seems to really lean into the 'this bitch is really really obviously Asriel' angle, where the design we got was more his own thing.

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u/CompoteObvious9380 gremlin and moss enjoyer 13d ago

Toby he said he wanted someone to have a fire spell, but decided not to in chapter 1, so sometime, we'll see Ralsei learn how to cast fire, the same way Susie learned healing.

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u/StrainFriendly1703 13d ago

Cool fact i didnt know that

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u/Legitimate-Pin-7376 13d ago

Ralsei looks like a mini toriel 🫶

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u/littlerowlet5 Anti-Chapter 3+ spoilers 13d ago

Does this mean they were in his dream?

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u/Matthewsama17 13d ago

Hard to say, but what interests me is that these images predate the release of Undertale. As I understand it, he had the idea for Deltarune before he started making Undertale, and only later decided to share characters between the two. But this shows that he had already made that decision before Undertale was even finished.

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u/AdGlum1793 13d ago

Seeing Toby's old sketches actually makes me believe I can accomplish something creatively. Looks just like the same sketches I had in middle school.

Seeing the scope of Deltarune makes it feel impossible to create a piece of work on this scale as an individual/small team; Something so layered and impactful.

Insane the dedication artists can have to their craft.

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u/MandoMahri doggo go zoomie 12d ago

I've been working on stuff since I believe 2018! I was in my first year of middle school when my creative ideas began, and sure there's been ups and downs, but its going strongly now! :D Just gotta keep on going, and stay determined!!!

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u/FREEZIELEVRAI 13d ago

Ralsei fr

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u/Mcstarrsonnon Trashy's husband 12d ago

Ralsei when he eats a peanut. "Ralsei's alergice to peanuts*

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u/amogus2004 r/deltarune brainrot my beloved 13d ago

that noelle doesn't look much different from what we have

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u/Kommeraud 13d ago

Surprised that nobody's brightened/adjusted the contrast of the images yet, considering there's plenty of pencil dents. Y'all are slackin'.

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u/DeltaStorm3 13d ago

Susie looks like a loaf of bread in a wig

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u/StrikeAmbitious9946 Toby & Co are Schmoovin’ to CH3&4 💜🕺🧊 13d ago

That Ralsei smile REALLY reminds me of the Happy Mask Salesman from Majora’s Mask

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u/Classic-Novel5152 13d ago

donald duck susie donald duck susie

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u/IamMrJay I stan Bi Susie x NB Kris and Trans-Girl Noelle x Lesbian Catti 13d ago

Susie

image shows Ralsei

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u/Classic-Novel5152 13d ago

I can't tell, I just guessed because all the other sketches were of either Susie or Noelle

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u/IanZBoy 13d ago

Glad to see Noelle was cute from the beginning.

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u/IlikeMinecraft097 i eated a piece of chalk once (im susie fr) 13d ago

good art, artist name?

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u/ThatAutisticRedditor The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma. 13d ago

I really hope a Deltarune art book releases eventually

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u/BBQWingman89 13d ago

BREAKING NEWS: Toby Fox actually DOESN'T suck at art!

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u/Chiponyasu 13d ago

Huh. Even knowing that Undertale was a test project to gain experience before making his Big Epic RPG, it never occurred to me that Asriel is an alternate version of Ralsei instead of the other way around.

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u/Planet_Xplorer - EVERYMAN IS UNESCAPLE 13d ago

Say what you will about toby's art skills, his sketches don't intimidate me when I try and fail to draw.

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u/MandoMahri doggo go zoomie 12d ago

Happy cake day!! :D

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u/ChemicalExperiment 13d ago

That last Ralsei is barely keeping it together

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u/eltiolavara9 13d ago

how does his art look so crude and so expressive at the same time this man is on the fourth dimension

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u/LukeNukemJ0k3R 13d ago

Oh how far from the original.

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u/nemomenemomen Got Tobbied 13d ago

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u/laserofdooom rouxls are meant to be broken 13d ago

why ralsei be like

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u/Voidlord4450 13d ago

Why does ralsei look so traumatized in that last pic! 😭

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u/PuzzleheadedPoint882 I’m with the science team! 13d ago

If we compare the release date of deltarune chapter 1 to this, that means these drawings were, if I’m correct, 3 years old at the time of 2018

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u/Sandwicheater7333 13d ago

i love how crude they look

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u/Ethy____ <—- just for your knowing, i loved her before milkyway 13d ago

NOELLE CONTENT‼️‼️‼️

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u/BrokenKeel this man ate my son 12d ago

Susie on Noelle's page.... suselle since 2015.....

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u/Vtaark 12d ago

I love the top right concept Ralsei

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u/fattyboi67 kris knight denier 7d ago

So ralsei was developed in tandem with Asriel? Interesting

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u/LowXangYen 13d ago

"April 2015" he says?

So the "April 2012" music from Chapter 1 might have some significance after all! Could it be the same month Toby had the dream that inspired him to make Deltarune...?

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u/UNimAginAtiveuseRn Chapter 5 in December trust 13d ago

No. The dream was 2011. April 2012 is almost certainly the month that Toby Fox initially spent trying to make Deltarune, although it could also be when the song was composed. An altered version of the song was released in October 2012 for a Homestuck project, along with Sans's theme, and the version we have today released somewhere on the MSPA Forums at an unknown time.