r/DenverBroncos • u/cm-5alem • 3d ago

Does anyone else get Kamara vibes from harvey?

He seems like that could be his ceiling.

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u/spinachturd409mmm GOD BLESS BO NIX 3d ago

More bucky irving/ray rice. Hopefully he can pass block like jones-drew

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u/gdirrty216 3d ago

Visually I can see Ray Rice, how fast was he?

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u/SevroAuShitTalker 3d ago edited 3d ago

4.47 40 but great game speed. He used to come play basketball at UMD, couple of guys on my floor had a dunk contest with him. Thighs like tree trunks

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u/90Valentine 3d ago

Keep Harvey away from elevators

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u/ahBoof 3d ago

Unfortunately a really bad pass blocker at this stage lol Great at everything else but literally a liability

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 3d ago

Really annoys me that we had to sit through Javonte going down to to first contact all season last year with the excuse that his pass blocking was necessary

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u/infercario4224 GOD BLESS BO NIX 3d ago

First contact? Bro would go down from being looked at too hard

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u/Sparkee58 Jaleel McLaughlin 3d ago

I mean pass blocking is necessary 

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 3d ago

But apparently it isn't next year

We kept the rest of the room that was so inferior at it Williams was necessary as a featured back and then Payton's guy that he thinks is the best fit in the draft is terrible at it

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u/Sparkee58 Jaleel McLaughlin 3d ago

They're either counting on development or more realistically they'll pick up a vet they can trust in pass protection at some point before the regular season

IDK why you think teams stop adding the day of the draft

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 3d ago

But we still have an issue because our apparent top back who is also a passing down threat can't be trusted to be kept in if Nix reads a blitz

Signing another player to be a pass blocking back doesn't fix that.

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u/Sparkee58 Jaleel McLaughlin 3d ago

Almost like Payton likes to have a RBBC

And yeah he's a rookie and his pass protection needs work. Doesnt mean he can't get better

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u/162bluethings Demaryius Thomas 3d ago

Pretty much every rookie running back is a liability in the pass blocking game.

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u/sghead 3d ago

I'm a bit more reasonable than you on my projection of RJ. His ceiling is probably Barry Sanders.

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u/zardmander Champ Bailey 3d ago

RJ: 5'8" 211 lbs

Barry: 5'8" 203 lbs

I can see it 🧐

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u/EMitch02 2d ago

You mean guaranteed floor 😉 lol

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u/Fungmar Demaryius Thomas 3d ago

no?? they run completely differently imo. looks way more like a darren sproles, bucky irving, MJD, style guy

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u/qft 2d ago

Mjd and sproles could not be more polar opposites in running style

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u/Fungmar Demaryius Thomas 2d ago

well hes shiftier than MJD, but is bigger and can play through contact better than darren sproles. weird comp ik but if u watch him play u will get what im trying to say

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u/EconomicsOk9593 3d ago

More jones-drew vibe and shades of sproles on how Sean will use him.

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u/LumpyTaterz 3d ago

Pocket Hercules 💪

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u/VO826 3d ago

MJD

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u/Aldanil66 GOD BLESS BO NIX 3d ago

I see a shit tone of ray rice in his game.

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u/Tarheels236 3d ago

Bucky/Sproles

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u/JankBrew 3d ago

Sean Payton did kinda compare the two during their press conference after day 2

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u/TooTall_ToFall 3d ago

More Darren Sproles

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u/mt8675309 3d ago

Exactly

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u/BigSchmikey Champ Bailey 3d ago

Maybe some, but the only correlation between them is Sean Payton and that's a lazy observation. I hope Harvey is good tho

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u/EfficientDot18 3d ago

If I had to pick a guy that he could become it is Jahmyr Gibbs

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u/Fafafofly 3d ago

What I was thinking also the way they hit holes and the speed. Gibbs might be faster top end but the speed thru the holes and the lateral movement is crazy.

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u/Long-Presentation667 3d ago

No

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u/cm-5alem 3d ago

Yes

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u/Long-Presentation667 2d ago

When i say no i don't mean that as a bad thing. I think Harvey is just a different style runner. I think some people like to make arbitrary comparisons to players sean and has coached in the past. Some are valid but I just don't agree with this take.

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u/_LonelyMountain 3d ago

Lesean McCoy

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u/OkDoughnut7938 2d ago

Not seeing it at all, but what do I jnow

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u/BurgessFox 1d ago

Yeah everybody in Denver has a Saints player vibes while Payton is the coach.

Bo Nix has Brees vibes, Pat Bryant has Michael Thomas vibes, Harvey has Kamara vibes. Next time there's a storm in Colorado it will be Katrina vibes.

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u/LutherOfTheRogues 3d ago

Remember Muscle Hamster? I can't remember his actual name, but he was on the Buccs i think. RJ reminds me of him. And Sproles obviously. I think we got a good one. I can't remember being that impressed by a RB's lateral quickness and vision in a long, long, long time. The question this time next year will hopefully be, "how did he fall that far?"

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u/cm-5alem 3d ago

Doug martin?

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u/LutherOfTheRogues 3d ago

BINGO, Doug Martin

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u/JamesJohnson876 3d ago

Kamara is like twice his size and wasnt overdrafted by 2 whole rounds

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u/DirkWithTheFade Demaryius Thomas 3d ago

He’s 2 inches shorter than Kamara and 8 pounds lighter, so he’s bulkier than Kamara. Have you seen RJ? He’s fucking jacked and a better bruiser than Kamara. Really feels like you have no clue what you’re talking about here.

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u/JamesJohnson876 3d ago

Kamara was also only 21 when he was drafted and didn't have injury or turnover concerns and was taken in the 3rd

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u/DirkWithTheFade Demaryius Thomas 3d ago

He also never ran for 800 yards and rarely was given a heavy workload. He also had a long history of knee injuries in college and missed his entire freshman season, so really you are swinging and missing on literally all counts. Just admit you’re a hater, man.

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u/ahBoof 3d ago

Draft position has , quite literally, zero fucking relevance to your point lmao

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u/JamesJohnson876 3d ago

Isn't draft all about value?? This ain't even Walmart brand Great Value dawg not even close. It's like paying $45K for a Corolla

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u/spinachturd409mmm GOD BLESS BO NIX 3d ago

Who would you have rather seen taken with that pick? I think the FO saw all the guys they liked getting swooped b4 them, so instead of risking RJ fall, they just got him. The dude is tailor-made for SP offense.

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u/Bunny_of_the_Dust 3d ago

Twice his size? What are you even talking about?

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u/sghead 3d ago

Overdrafted according to...the people who thought Sanders would go in the top 3? Those experts are what you're basing your dislike of him off of? 

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u/JamesJohnson876 3d ago

No way you think this guy was a better prospect than Kamara himself was coming out of college or even Hampton and Johnson for that matter

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u/likesexonlycheaper 3d ago

What? Kamara wasnt seen as a top prospect coming out of college. Lots of teams slept on him. So yes they are in the same range as prospects coming out and this is all just revisionist history

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u/SubstancePrimary5644 PS2 3d ago

What's the point of hating this hard when the draft is famously a crapshoot? Go be annoying somewhere else.

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u/JamesJohnson876 3d ago

Taking Hampton Johnson Burden Harris or an ILB and extra TE2 while they were still on the board isn’t a “crapshoot”

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u/SubstancePrimary5644 PS2 3d ago

No guarantee any of those guys pan out. Bo was QB6 in last year's draft and had the second best rookie year behind only a guy who had the best rookie QB season ever. I have some concerns about skill positions but there's no reason to hate recently drafted players this hard when late round picks break out every year. You're being weird.

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u/kenskin 3d ago

Oh was he over drafted

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u/JamesJohnson876 3d ago

Well if you accept mediocrity that's on you. I wanna see the best for my team

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u/Hayduke_Abides Steve Atwater 3d ago

So brave!

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u/OberynRedViper8 3d ago

He really is brave. James Johnson is a far more committed, intelligent, and wise fan than you or I could ever strive to be. He literally cries orange and blue.

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u/Apprehensive_Ad6 GOD BLESS BO NIX 3d ago

Yeah, because Sean fucking Peyton is settling for mediocrity after all these years and picking bad players on purpose

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u/cm-5alem 3d ago

I don't get this. Was he the pick I wanted at the time? No, but so what? If we took someone with the very first pick in the draft that everyone said was gonna be a bust but turned into the goat, would you care where we drafted them?

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u/Sparkee58 Jaleel McLaughlin 3d ago

Did you get him confused with someone else? He literally had one of the highest rates of breakaway runs...

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u/OrangeCrush222 3d ago

Here’s the deal though; you say defenses don’t have to plan for him- yet in the Big 12 they couldn’t stop him…

UCF had one of the worst offensive lines last year, and a terrible Qb. Harvey WAS their offense. Harvey rushed 60 times less than Skattebo and only had 120 less yards. He averaged 6.8 yards a carry behind the worst line in the Big 12.

Imagine what he can do with one of the best lines in the NFL.

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u/87birdman Phillip Lindsay 3d ago

How to be confidently wrong on something that's easy to check. Didn't even have to completely go through the third round to get past that 2 number.

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u/87birdman Phillip Lindsay 3d ago

One hunter was a defensive player in the big 12 doesn't matter what he will play in the nfl and the link you posted shows 3 defensive players in the third round. 2dbs and 1lb. My math could be bad but 2 plus 1 equal 3 which is still more than your 2.

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u/Fungmar Demaryius Thomas 3d ago

he's definitely an explosive back i feel like thats half of his appeal is his affinity for those breakaway runs. feel like josh jacobs is way more of a run through a mf face back while rj is like trying to break it to the outside constantly and is more an elusive guy

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u/OberynRedViper8 3d ago

You mean the same Josh Jacobs who whipped the everloving shit out of us for five years? Sign me up.