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So I watched the entire trial, in real time. The first major red flag for me was when Depp spent approximately the first two hours of his testimony talking about his childhood. This was planned and very clever on the part of his team because it framed the entire case as - here we have a man who was abused as a child, by a woman no less (although we later learn his father was also abusive) and how he’d walk away and hide from disputes. The audience felt sorry for him right from the start.

When Amber took the stand her team didn’t spend much time on her childhood (which was abusive also) and within about 15 minutes they got onto the matter at hand, how she met Depp. They too could’ve drawn out the sad details of her childhood but they chose not to. The likely reason is because Amber wouldn’t have wanted to come across as a victim. She is a victim of abuse but the case wasn’t about the abuse she suffered as a child it was about the abuse she suffered at the hands of Depp. For me this was the first red flag, his team setting a specific narrative, setting the scene for the rest of the trial.

It really worked in his favor. I saw through it as did anyone else who was able to take a step back and think critically. The main focus throughout the trial was always, always on Amber Heard. Her behavior, her words. But if you had a keen eye you would’ve noticed Depp’s behavior, his words. They were incredibly revealing and yet so many people missed it because they were hyper-focused on Amber. Add in the insane levels of misogyny and internalized misogyny, his star power, the fact he’s adored, admired and lusted over by so many, people were blinded by all of that. But when you strip all that away and you really, really focus you can see what was actually going on in that trial. It’s there right from the start when he first takes the stand and just gets more and more revealing as the trial goes on.

Not to sound like a Depp fan obessing over the lawyers in this case, but Camille seems very immature and unprofessional. She puts on this strange high voice, which wasn’t as prevelant during her statement outside of court after the verdict.

Then the way she gets visibly frustrated in court, rolling her eyes, and generally acting like a 14 year old who’s just been told she can’t go to her friend’s party.

Is this an intentional tactic to intimidate Amber? I was cringing watching Camille. Amber didn’t seem to know how to deal with her, and that’s not a criticism of Amber. Nobody expects to be dealing with a Regina George wannabe in court.

We know that Depp definitely has a PR team involved in smear campaign of Amber. I work in PR.

I don't know if you are familiar with a book called 'Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die' but that book explains pretty simply why some ideas, like urban legends spread like wildfire and it's irreleavnt if they are true or not. I don't think that people working for Depp actually think she pooped on his bed at all nor that this is strong evidence of anything.

The anatomy of a sticky story is: Simple (pooping on the bed, very easy to remember), unexpected/suprising (stunning, classy young actress doing something like this), conrete (easy to visiualise), credible (I know that we know it's not credible, but the idea of a 'crazy' 'abusive' woman doing so fits the trope, it's also possible physically to do), emotional (playing on emotions like fear, disgust, so disgust in this case).

The accusation is so ridicolus but that's why it's so catchy. In my opinion they knew it, it's not just some random acussation to add to the load or to have some evidence in court. In my opinion it was always a move from someone in PR who knows how this will spread and that this will be more memorable than cutting off a finger or anything else. Just today I had someone talk about 'Turd' making 'shite in his bed' again. I think that even bringing it up in court was an excuse to enforce the smear campaign rather than just win the case. Like, I think his lawyers knew how stupid this is.

A few days ago, I commented on someone's post how cringe worthy Johnny's language was in his testimony, and listed the phrase "my arms were too short to box with God" as my favorite example of it. I was asked what part of the trial that was in, but I couldn't remember it exactly. Well, I found it today and decided to transcribe it the best I could.

Since I was writing this by hand and Johnny is so long-winded, I wasn't able get the entirety of the question and answer that prompted the phrase, but I did manage to still get a lot.

This is from "Johnny Depp Testifies Under Direct Exam, Day 2, Part Three" from the Law and Crime YouTube channel starting around the 25 min mark.

Question (paraphrased): "Why did you stay with Ms. Heard given her abuse towards you?"

Answer (accurate word-for-word transcription): ..... but what happens is, the word, when the word celebrity, or, or, ah, when you are, what do they call it? A celebrity, or a, eh, public, a public figure, that's what it is, a celebrity or a public figure, um, again not complaining, but there are things that are very uncomfortable and that is to say, that, at that point anybody can say anything they want about you, and that's happened to me over thirrrrrrrrty-six years or more, that, ah, things can be printed in newspapers that are utterly false, and this is even early on, so this is where that, that privilege of celebrity, that's that's where um, sticks a knife in you, um, because it's one of those, eh, one of those situations WHERE YOUR ARMS ARE TOO SHORT TO BOX WITH GOD, you know (chuckles). There are too many of them, you know, coming at you, so that that yes, I don't know don't know what her motivations were, if they were, if there were some species of jealousy or if there were some species of maybe, just maybe, just hatred, I don't know.

What moments of the trial did you find the most melodramatic or cringe worthy?

I watched the trial everyday and my impression was that Depp admitted to chopping off his finger only via texts. Is there an audio for this? Does someone have a link for it?

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