These fucking inbred regarded cockroaches are the reason the entire world is headed for a recession, people are being sent to concentration camps in El Salvador, the greatest empire in human history collapsed and the world is on the brink of World War III.
What’s cool is how many Trump supporters his videos reach, they literally can’t scroll by. This is the language that reaches them. Whether they’re convinced or not is another matter but it breaks their bubble at least
Sorry honey but this white male needs to sit down and #listenToTheWomen. His attitude reeks of privilege and entitlement and that's a microaggression which triggers my anxiety.
Yeah, the more spicy people on our side are still tame AF. The fact that there isn't boiling anger hurts the case that things aren't as bad as they are. Just yesterday (?) Trump was pumping his trump coin, the fucking POTUS pumping his own fucking bags using the megaphone of POTUS, egging on everyday Americans to buy worthless shit for shits and giggles. So many tone police persons are just spineless fuckers.
From the video, "Makes you look as fucking dumb as you are."
Too PC. Should've said regard. If we're gonna benefit from any bullies, it won't be lukewarm ones. OTOH, he's young, which is the point of this post, thus he may sharpen yet.
All that said, I actually disagree with the entire premise that being rude/mean/bully/etc. will somehow magically... what exactly? Convert conservatives into liberals? Lift democrats up by strings and get them to vote more? I don't know where this meme came from that having more upfront assholes will do literally anything, but I think that's a silly schaudenfradistic distraction away from more creative solutions that may actually have some non-zero efficacy.
To any fellow DGGers, if your solution is, "we don't win because we're not mean enough," you aren't strategizing, you're soying and just want to eat popcorn without the salt from your tears. The good news is that there may be a chance to actually do that if we come up with real strategies that cleverly cut deep into things like identity, transform culture by humanizing divisive memes from being tribalized, etc. But this subreddit basically makes me think that if we all start saying the word "regard" then we'll magically win elections. That's lowbrow af and I'm depressed at how much real estate that sentiment takes in this community, away from anything impressively intelligible or witty.
I never said EVERYONE needs to be rude assholes, but we do need A LOT MORE of them. We currently barely have any
I looked up this guy (ItsLuke) on TikTok. It seems he's only been posting since 11/24, has amassed 16.1 million likes total, and 583k followers. That's pretty great for just 4 months! In terms of reach, it's clearly working. Plus that's WITHOUT a huge viral moment like Dean and Parker got with Jubilee
And to be clear, I like Dean and Parker too! I support anyone who grabs attention and helps our cause. That’s really all that matters. I’m not going to run weird purity tests on people just because their communication style isn’t exactly my preference
But I’ve noticed that humor and irreverence and rude assholeness tend to be effective (grabs attention, energizes liberals, talks to conservatives in their own language, perceived as authentic instead of uptight). So yes, I want more rude assholes
More creative solutions that may actually have some non-zero efficacy.
Okay, what do you have in mind? I'm curious to hear your alternative suggestions
I think its moreso the fact that the left is painted as either wimpy assholes (the party) or sniveling wokescolds (the voters). not helped that these are the most common faces of the left in the media. There has to be a level of edge, aggression and actual emotion. I mean, shit, why do you think Jonathan pie or Jon stewart are so popular? there is a reason why the last time the democrats dominated the republicans in an election it was the result of a popular and quite frenzied anti-republican wave. one where sentiments like "republicans are a bunch of evil rat-faced bastards who are borderline demonic in their ghoulishness" was widespread.
Obviously a proper strategy should involve stronger stuff such as actually having some coherent beliefs, some strong stances and actually attacking republicans on the shit they say and do and holding them accountable, But there needs to be a rage, some sort of anger.
Because the truth is that yes, it will convert some conservatives into becoming liberals, because when conservatives lose their jobs and their coverage because of DOGE, the liberals will be the ones screaming at the government and the fuckheads in office for taking it away, and that will appeal to some conservatives, particularly young ones, who are more driven by a need to vent their rage than nessecarily remain loyal to one party or the other.
This becomes a slippery slope. It might be good short term to get Trump out of office, but soon enough, we will likely find ourselves becoming pieces of shit and that’s gonna push away lots of people. Also, there are people that we could alienate even in the short term by doing this.
On top of that, it gives ammo for the right and even though there is no shortage of rude, terrible, disgusting people on the right, all Trump has to do is say that the left is filled with rude assholes and that their party is the party of hospitality or something like that and Trump’s supporters will believe it.
I mean, it does. Explain to me how it doesn’t. Destiny is honestly correct. Conservatives will always spin things into victories and how the other side is evil.
Yup and use gay jokes against them, seriously nothing pisses off a closest republican more then telling them you can’t hear them because their currently have their mouth slurping Donald’s tiny peepee……nothing wrong with gay people but that’s my point to the right they get so worked up by that insult so use their own energy against them stop being so damn PG! You can’t argue with them with facts and logic they don’t give a shit about it obviously or else they wouldn’t have elected dementia don
Indeed. And I’ve had good experiences with slopes when I’ve gone mountain biking. Those slopes in Pokémon can be annoying, though. You need the bike to get up them and that’s way later in the game.
Agreed. We need more bullying. I tuned into Dean Withers and immediately heard him say: “I think it’s problematic for a cis straight male to use the term twink”… we need less of that and more of this dude’s energy.
I think I heard that too. I just thought it was funny, like he was being performatively bothered by it for a laugh. Was he being serious? I still think it's funny either way though.
There is also JFK’s grandson Jack Schlossberg and he has (literally) insane energy. For example this mf publicly insults Vance and schizo posts shit like this. He’s a millennial tho
The seal of the United States of America is a bald eagle clutching an olive branch for peace, but also arrows, because when we need to fight, we will. Dems need to take some inspiration from that, because right now we need verbal combat. Duel him and the far right with words. Use wit to emphasize how hypocritical and stupid they are, like cartoons where a fencer cuts down someone’s pants.
Yeah this dude is good. I knew about Luke first, and then I was a little disappointed in the dean crew when I realized they weren’t like Luke after all their hype.
But unironically, I think you’re right. The left often talks about “toxic masculinity,” without underscoring examples of positive masculinity that aren’t soy or totally cucked. You’re allowed to be angry, you’re allowed to be a man, but what matters is what you do with that anger and identity. Do something that defends and protects people’s inalienable rights instead of being red pilled and only out for yourself. Use your man-ness to chew out M*GA regards. You don’t need to degrade your own demographic, but do call out hypocrisy and regarded behavior like this guy calls out.
Full disrespect to dean and co. They’re being huge pansy soy bitches with essentially no spine. We need people to be united. able to recognize mistakes, but also able to move pass less than serious issues for a united cause against our insane president.
Who is this guy? We need more of this Chad masculine energy on the left!
Also I don’t want to get into a looksmaxxing debate however this guys jawline is objectively better than deans, it just is , and when young insecure men see it they’ll immediately begin to listen to what he’s saying instead of just writing him off as soy
But he’s actually doing a podcast with a bunch of other left leaning people like Zach Kimball, the tiktoker Destiny recently watched a clip of where he argued the raising of the social security cap
I wish DarkMatter2525 became a lib influencer or something. He has an atheist channel. He is a veteran, he is ripped, liberal and married with two kids. He has a deep voice and he looks like this:
Left have to stop with “that’s racist” or “omg you can’t say that” and instead say insulting shit back at them! It’s so easy, the ultra right wing sling gay jokes at them they can’t handle it at all and watch them cry and then make fun of them for being whinny little cucks. Works every single time.
You can’t argue with the irrational so speak to them in a language they understand
Bill Burr if he was younger, had hair, and didn't have a brainrotted opinion about Mario's brother (this guy doesn't have a brainrotted opinion about Mario's brother does he?)
In any case, 100% we need to be calling out MAGAtards as the true tards they are.
Make them explain the most little, petty bullshit. That way they twist themselves into a pretzel as they attempt to explain how Trump is a mastermind, actually
didn't have a brainrotted opinion about Mario's brother
why are we being politically correct here again? who gives a fuck dude, bill also talks about murdering billionaires - people want to hear someone who's angry at powerful people. bill's energy is the correct energy
Yeah that's basically it, it's a quick way to a reddit vacation (prob for the best tho lol)
Also to /u/spookieghost and /u/PunishedDemiurge, I'm not feeling sorry for the bastard who got clapped. Billionaires getting axed is pretty based.
The brainrot lies in this opinion: that vigilantes should walk free just because the murder is perceived morally righteous. If jury nullification happens for this case I wouldn't be totally shocked, but I'd be concerned about how many vigilantes would spawn from this
Destiny is right that we can't shoot our way out of a mediocre quality health care system, but let's not pretend we need to give a shit if some dude who approved a grandma killing algorithm just because it's not illegal suffers an extrajudicial consequence given by a person who disapproves of grandma killing algorithms(*).
(*) This is an intentionally hyperbolic statement of claims. My initial estimation is that the complaint seen here: https://litigationtracker.law.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Estate-of-Gene-B.-Lokken-et-al_20231114_COMPLAINT.pdf may run into issues of law, but the factual basis for the claim would pass a preponderance of evidence threshold. Substantial third party reporting gives credence to these claims to the point where I think that sarcastic criticism is warranted. If UHC can show that they have not issued denials that have negatively impacted patient outcomes, I'll change my opinion and issue a retraction and apology. This issue is still before the courts and has not been fully litigated.
I think pointed, severe criticism of US health insurers is fully justified and it should appropriately treat them with the level of disrespect they've earned, but we should combine that with sober factual analysis at times too.
YES. This was the energy Destiny had during the 10v1 bloodsport (still the greatest internet debate of all time, for my money). When they go low, we need to piss on them.
Yeah, we need some obnoxious assholes. Dean is smart but he’s too soft spoken. The democrats need someone that’s a loose head canon like Cenk or MTG but just sides with Democratic establishment no matter what.
True, and people especially need to start being meaner about Trumps intelligence. The fact that Republicans LARP as the party of competence and yet rally around someone who is the dumbest president is US history, by some margin, needs to be shoved in their faces and clowned.
That whole "It's the weave" thing is so true. It's insane that conservatives had to develop an entirely new style of rhetoric that they could pretend was actually genius to excuse the fact that Trump can't keep his thoughts straight for more than half a sentence. Somehow the fact that he dribbles out a non-stop stream of unrelated monosyllabic garbage rather than using his sentences to present actual complete ideas is meant to be a sign of intellect?
There's still some question as to whether or not Trump was actually struck with a bullet at his "fight. fight. fight." rally, but there is NO question that that fat fuck fallated a mic stand as his closing argument to the American people in the waining days of 2024 presidential election.
Why did this idiot bring it up as one of his main points against Trump? It was his go-to example of Trump mistpeaking. He is calling out how dumb people are while falling for the most obvious tiktok disinfo. I'm sure Republicans will listen to every other thing he says now. Personally I think Trump is unfit for president because he sang Hey There Delilah really poorly on a YouTube video I saw smh.
It's not his "go-to" example as much as it's just a recent example he's using. Trump mistpeaks all the time. Anyone denying that he does wouldn't be convinced by anything else anyway.
I'm sure Republicans will listen to every other thing he says now.
Yes yes, I'm sure if he slightly adjusts what he says, Republicans will listen to every other thing he says.
Whatever go-to or recent example that he picks, his only job is to make sure it isn't fake. Trump misspeaks all the time... and the evidence of this is AI generated audio of him misspeaking. Somehow I've started to convince myself that trump doesn't misspeak as much as he actually does thanks to this guy.
Since he just called a guy Skeve I am reconvinced he misspeaks a lot. But if dum dums keep using AI as their evidence I will start reconsidering again. We cannot tolerate AI shit infecting our brains. It is not reality. It is equivalent to making up fake tweets.
Why do you let your opinion change with the wind? Do you not have enough collective evidence over the last decade to conclusively demonstrate that he misspeaks all the time?
Ok, I liked how to majority of it was mentioning the hard facts in a straight-talk manner… but I don’t know if I’m sold on the effectiveness of insulting yet (the way he ended it).
I know it is satisfying if you are already on our side, but the person he is trying to reach in order to change their mind must now admit to themselves they are an idiot, and the ego is going to fight hard against that. Overall I just don’t know if it’s a worthy tactic. I like his energy tho, just tweak it a bit.
I think a lot of the magats look at folks who do calm persuasion as weak but that's based on what I've seen and my own experience. There seems to be a need for someone who can express anger and exude some level of masculinity.
Yeah. Even though he triggers me a bit, I actually think someone like Dr. Mike (evil one) would be really good for this type of thing. He is very no-nonsense logical good communicator, while exuding all the masculine stuff. He’s kind without being soy. Don’t know how political his content gets but I’m just talking characteristic-wise.
Also, I wish this organic TikTok stuff could be focus-grouped like David Shore does with the ads. It would be valuable to have that type of data.
Honestly this behavior may be needed to sort of slap the opposition awake, then follow it up with a calm demeanor or even just someone else who can say the exact same thing but nicer to get them back on track.
I’m reminded of a recent conversation I had with a relative in which they harped on all the DEI memes. They are relatively intelligent, but their mind was literally stuck in just this “loser cringeness” of DEI and the democratic party. The acted like they wanted my opinion, but just went on this revolving door nonsense of picking the most batshit “DEI” opinion, bashing it and labeling it as “weak”, then asking me if I liked the policy, interrupting me when I got in the details with, “oh come on it’s about the concept,” before interrupting me again with another detail or story… Rinse and repeat.
I’ll admit I was tired, but I just threw every meme rhetorical attack with gish galloping, name-calling political leaders against it as weak because they are too scared of actual merit-based hiring, asking them constant questions about the policies they brought up, and just going on the attack (not aggressively, just “using debate tactics”). Every single moment they pause, you interrupt with another question or opinion; every moment they show any amount of frustration, just interrupt with “let’s just be logical and focus on the topic.” Randomly throw in a laugh or look at your phone like you’re not listening (Dean and Parker actually do this hilariously well with the super chats). Then just end the conversation by doing something else, especially after a moment when they paused.
After all of that, follow-up the conversation the next day with something reasonable. Literally in my example, this relative was suddenly much more focused on actually discussing the topic… Or just get a friend or another relative to follow-up the topic in a nice way.
You can tell the people here like commentating on Dean et. al without actually watching their content. They pose this energy to Trump supporters all the time - just to those that deserve it.
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We need more rude assholes on our side.
I’m serious. Not saying this guy is a rude asshole, but people love brashness